Barack Obama: Egghead?

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First Posted: 08-20-08 12:29 AM   |   Updated: 09-19-08 05:12 AM

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Barack Obama begins most of his speeches with the claim that voters will have a crucial choice to make on November 4: "We meet at a moment when this country is facing a set of challenges unlike any we've ever known."

During debates Obama - the former University of Chicago professor of constitutional law -- keeps his head tilted thoughtfully, as if in a seminar. His answers weave in and out, sometimes incisively, sometimes evasively. When pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church asked Obama last Saturday if life begins at conception, Obama's 210 word response, or perhaps, non-response ran as follows:

From a theological perspective or scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade. But let me speak more generally about this issue because this is something obviously the country wrestles with. One thing that I'm absolutely convinced of is there is a moral and ethical content to this issue. So I think that anybody who tries to deny the moral difficulties and gravity of the abortion issue I think is not paying attention. So that would be point number one.


But point number two, I am pro-choice. I believe in Roe v. Wade and come to that conclusion not because I'm pro-abortion, but because ultimately I don't think women make these decisions casually. They wrestle with these things in profound ways, in consultation with their pastors or spouses or their doctors or the family members.

And so, for me, the goal right now should be - and this is where I think we can find common ground, and by the way I have now inserted this into the Democratic Party platform - is how do we reduce the number of abortions, because the fact is that although we've had a president who is opposed to abortions over the last eight years, abortions have not gone down.

There are legions of voters who clearly thrive on the considered intellectual approach that has characterized Obama's presidential bid, finding it his core appeal. There are potential costs, however, according to a number of political observers. Obama's cerebral style and anti-war stance can be seen as detached, condescending, or even worse "effete" in the opinion of some -- potentially evoking the diminishing enthusiasm that undermined the Democratic campaigns of Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Bradley, Gore, and Kerry.

The McCain campaign has aggressively capitalized on this perceived vulnerability in Obama's performance, portraying him as disengaged from the high-pressure concerns central to the working and middle class. In the commercial "Family" the McCain campaign asks, "Is the biggest celebrity in the world ready to help your family?"

More recently, McCain has escalated his attack to suggest that Obama as an intellectual cannot grasp the military concept of victory.

Not content to merely predict failure in Iraq, my opponent tried to legislate failure. This was back when supporting America's efforts in Iraq entailed serious political risk. It was a clarifying moment. It was a moment when political self-interest and the national interest parted ways....
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Thanks to the courage and sacrifice of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines and to brave Iraqi fighters, the surge has succeeded. And yet Senator Obama still cannot quite bring himself to admit his own failure in judgment....Even in retrospect, he would choose the path of retreat and failure for America over the path of success and victory. In short, both candidates in this election pledge to end this war and bring our troops home. The great difference is that I intend to win it first.

There are a number of analysts who see Obama as vulnerable on this front:

Derek Shearer, Occidental College Professor of Diplomacy and World Affairs and Ambassador to Finland in the Clinton administration said, succinctly, "He is way too 'Harvard'."

Professor Caroline Heldman, also a political scientist at Occidental, said she is "concerned that Obama may be increasingly framed as 'not manly enough' by the Republican Party/ McCain Camp." The presidency, she said, "is conflated with masculinity in the minds of most Americans. In short, a great way to weaken a presidential opponent is to subtly 'feminize' him."

Democratic lobbyist Lawrence F. Obrien, III said: "People like to say he is a black Jack Kennedy. Fine, up to a point. Kennedy was smart, elegant, very well spoken, slim, handsome -- but, he also was Irish. Sharp, quick and abundant sense of humor, able to make contact with people."

"Obama's fundamental problem with voters is that he sometimes comes across as an elitist who talks down to them, dismissing their worries and telling them what they really should be concerned about. Voters don't like being addressed in this manner," said Emory political scientist Merle Black, an expert on the Republican realignment of the South.

Ron Kaufman, former political aide to George H. W. Bush, acknowledged that Obama "clearly connects with a ton of folks, but so did almost-President Howard Dean. The polls continue to say that this is tied. Obama should be 15-20 points ahead. The fact that he is not should worry them . . . . I honestly believe Obama may have a glass jaw."

On the other side, a substantial number of political specialists contend that Obama does not have a significant problem on this front.

"Barack Obama needs to work hard to win white working class voters. But, thankfully, he's not Adlai Stevenson; John McCain is not Dwight Eisenhower; and today's America is not the America of the 1950's," said David Kusnet, former chief speechwriter in the Clinton administration and author of the new book Love the Work, Hate the Job: Why America's Best Workers are Unhappier than Ever (Wiley, 2008).

"Obama was a community organizer in a neighborhood where the steel mills had shut down. Obama does know how to address economic grievances and also how to connect these complaints with the sense that our democracy is as broken as our economy. Obama needs to continue fleshing out his economic agenda and contrast it with McCain's halfhearted embrace of Bush's failed policies. But his elevated rhetoric and down-to-earth policy prescriptions can reinforce each other, as they did with FDR and JFK," Kusnet said.

Another Clinton speechwriter, Michael Cohen, author of Live From the Campaign Trail: The Greatest Presidential Campaign Speeches of the Twentieth Century and How They Shaped Modern America (Bloomsbury, June 2008), contended: "The kind of rhetoric that Obama is employing below is really not that out of kilter in a change election. In fact it's pretty standard. I think this call for more specifics is hugely overrated and unnecessary. On the issues Obama is favored, particularly domestic issues, the big questions are really about personality and intangibles, like experience."

Princeton political scientist Nolan McCarty noted the he has had "friends and colleagues comment on the possibility that Obama could become the egghead candidate," but, McCarthy countered, "the current administration has given anti-intellectualism a bad name....With the outcomes of that kind of know-nothingism on display, the Republicans may find it harder to criticize Obama for being an intellectual (though they may find other ways to paint him as an elitist)."

Political scientist Jennifer Lawless of Brown said that in 2002, she found "that stereotyping about candidate competence to govern in a political context dominated by the 'war on terrorism' may work to the detriment of women candidates, at least at the presidential level. It wasn't that candidates have to be 'manly,' but rather, that traditional conceptions of strong leaders tend to be more consistent with images of male, as opposed to female, politicians."

Now, however, Lawless is not sure the same finding would hold:

Considering that public opinion regarding the war [has become] so negative, it is possible that a more 'unconventional leadership,' at least in terms of stereotypes, might be appealing to the average voter. In this way, a candidate like Obama might have an edge over McCain, if for no reason other than the fact that Obama represents something very different from George Bush and his rhetoric regarding war -- i.e., 'looking the terrorists in the eye' and 'smoking them out of their caves' didn't turn out the way most Americans would have liked.

Obama recently responded to McCain's assaults: "We've got work to do," he told supporters in Albuquerque on August 18. "[C]ontrary to what John McCain's advisers will say, we are not a bunch of whiners. We will suck it up."

On television, Obama has begun to directly counter-attack McCain on the issue of who is in touch with the middle class.

One of the more recent Obama commercials, Book, begin with the announcer saying "Economics by John McCain. Support George Bush 95 percent of the time. Keep spending $10 billion a month for the war in Iraq while the Iraqis sell oil for record prices giving Iraq a $79 billion oil surplus and hurting our economy. Barack Obama's plan: end the war responsibly, better schools, no more tax breaks for oil companies. Barack Obama: the middle class first."


Barack Obama begins most of his speeches with the claim that voters will have a crucial choice to make on November 4: "We meet at a moment when this country is facing a set of challenges unlike any we...
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- snruB I'm a Fan of snruB 5 fans permalink
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I'd like an egghead as a President. We already tried 8 years with a melonhead, we don't need 4 more

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 08/20/2008

You are so right, I want a president who is smarter than I am. We have had that for 8 miserable years and now another one with the same intellect ( or lack thereof) wants to be elected.

Please God let him have Lieberloser be his VP choice that will fix him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 08/20/2008
- AliveInNYC I'm a Fan of AliveInNYC 3 fans permalink

It's kind of depressing to think that a person can be considered "too smart" to be President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 08/20/2008
- Aywaller I'm a Fan of Aywaller 5 fans permalink
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Isn't it, though? What does it say about us as Americans that we think that our leaders should be C students?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 08/20/2008
- Oldtt I'm a Fan of Oldtt 37 fans permalink
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Jimmy Carter has a genius IQ and was totally ineffective as President. What makes a President effective is not intelligence-on-display but leadership ability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 08/20/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 227 fans permalink
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Good point. Jimmy Carter was also a "passive" President and that was equally his problem, if not more so. Obama can easily show his leadership qualities by simply being more clear and less "wordy". He has a serious problem that needs immediate work. He'll get the message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 08/20/2008

I have a friend that's like an idiot savant. He's scatterbrained, socially inept, and smart enough to be a successful scientist. But if he gets confused by something, or can't remember something, he will sit and pore over it for hours or days. Not in a catatonic state, but it will be in the back of his mind, nagging at him. He can usually remember what it is he was trying to think of, or come up with some new brilliant idea, but would I want him answering the red phone at 3 AM? Absolutely not.

BHO seems to have an abnormal brilliance that won't allow him to come to any sort of conclusion about anything. He just mentally regurgitates issues over and over again, looking through them from many different angles. It's like he's so caught up in the journey he never bothers to reacht he destination. Great for a philosopher, but not for an executive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 08/20/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 227 fans permalink
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I do agree with you to a large extent. Many "executives" are in their positions because they thrust their agenda in a convincing way. Obama needs to be more persuasive to his larger audience. He needs to be more 'USA Today' as opposed to 'Harper's' or 'New Yorker'.

And for those who are decrying "but the American people NEED an intelligent President" -- that is true. We do need intelligence and objectivity at the top, however, he cannot be passive in his approach. He must show moral clarity and less subtle shading while stating his case to the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 08/20/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 62 fans permalink

In that case you vote 'present' which I guess ts the 'nuanced' thing to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 08/20/2008
- breezi I'm a Fan of breezi 10 fans permalink

Are you trying to paint Obama as an "idiot savant"? Most people think this way--it's called deductive reasoning. Try it sometime, instead of regurgitation. This IS how problems are solved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 08/20/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 51 fans permalink
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Only in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 08/20/2008

You do know that there is a fine line between a genious and a nutcase? Have you seen the movie "a beautiful mind"? Yes the president should be smart enough but being academically smart is risky due to the intellectual discease of indecision when confronted with a lot of conflicting information and objectives. Many Intellectuals don't understand that compromise is required in such cases to reach a decision so they choose to be indecisive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 08/20/2008
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

Obama will lose the presidency because most people will not agree with him on his positions and past associations with slimy people that go back decades. This is a center-right nation, and the Democrats have anointed the most liberal far lefty anti-American person they could ever have selected.

You can be smart and still be wrong on the issues that matter to most people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 08/20/2008

WAKE UP AMERICA WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE MCCAIN IN OFFICE IT WILL BE LIKE HAVING BUSH STILL IN OFFICE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 08/20/2008
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

That's been the motto and whole campaign theme of the Obama campaign and its not working. What's he going to do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 08/20/2008
- fuzzwald I'm a Fan of fuzzwald 11 fans permalink
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Teah, you've got a point. Any presidetial candidate in recent years seems to drive voters out of their comfort zone if they appear too intelligent. That's why we have a tendency to elect idiots like duhbya and lightweights like McCrank. It's a failure of education, in my opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 08/20/2008

Get elected so we finally can say that we have a president that can string words together into a coherent sentence..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 08/20/2008
- fuzzwald I'm a Fan of fuzzwald 11 fans permalink
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I meant to say Yeah, not Teah. I shouldn't type one-handed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 08/20/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

your shift key is stuck

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 08/20/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 62 fans permalink

Did you just think that up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 08/20/2008

McCain is the most unBush of all Republicans. If the Democrats want to win, they should drop all the McSame stuff. McCain was a staunch opponent of our post-war Iraq strategy (that's right, post-war, ie, the battle after the Iraqi Army fell). He didn't start agreeing with our strategy until Petraeus suggested the surge. McCain was the Democrats favorite Republican until he won the primaries. The Democrats should focus on the good things about Obama and quit trying to tie McCain to Bush. it isn't working because it isn't true.

The truth is that Obama is going to lose this election because he is too liberal. Middle America doesn't vote for liberal candidates (see John Kerry). They prefer conservatives to liberals. They also prefer centrist to conservatives (see Bill Clinton).

The wacko liberals who backed Obama over Hillary are going to be the ones responsible for McCain winning.

This race would be all but over if the Democrats nominated Hillary -- a centrist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 08/20/2008

I like a little thought before bombing and criminalizing pregnant rape victims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 08/20/2008
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Me too. What the hell are you talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 08/20/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

he has no clue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 08/20/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 08/20/2008
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Cool!
Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 08/20/2008

It's sad that you have to be an idiot to appeal to the majority of americans. If we keep voting for highschool football captains then we're doomed and we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 08/20/2008
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

its attitudes like yours and unfortunately of the far left......elitest....that turn people off. I'm educated, successful, latino, gay and have an adopted son. I happen to think that Obama is just wrong on so many issues i can't even count them. That's why i won't vote for him. he's just too far to the left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 08/20/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 318 fans permalink

By your own definition you are a fool to vote Repuke. As if they are your kind of people. Again I am reminded how uneducated our citizens are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/20/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 605 fans permalink
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I assume you're not a former Clinton supporter since she and Obama share the same views on the issues, so obviously you are an educated, successful, latino, gay father of an adopted son who ascribes to the issue positions of President Bush and therein Senator McCain. Apparently, too far to the right looks a lot better to you than too far to the left! Therefore, concluding that you must be a Republican, I understand your dissastisfaction with Senator Obama. Otherwise, if you were a Democrat not voting for the Democratic nominee, your reasoning would be purely irrational, in spite of your education, your success, your ethnicity, or your lifestyle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 08/20/2008
- Paganus I'm a Fan of Paganus 11 fans permalink
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As another educated, successful Latino (grew up in Texas) I just don't understand you MidSection. The Republican base think that you and I are one of the major problems in this country, and if they had their way, they would put you up against a wall and shoot you. Go ahead, keep on bleating that meaningless leftist=elitist bull and vote for McSame. But when they kick in your front door, don't come running to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 08/20/2008

Obama is what this country needs at this time! I just don't see how people are fooled by McCain and his stories! Obama is so right, McCain is trying to disarm the American people and not stay on the issues because he knows that he will only offer 4 more years of the same status quo!
WAKE UP AMERICA! WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE MCCAIN IN OFFICE!
Obama is very intelligent and a very good organizer and worker! Obama will get done what needs to be done to get America back to where we need to be!
OBAMA 08 OBAMA08 OBAMA08 OBAMA08 OBAMA08 OBAMA08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 08/20/2008
- knixphan I'm a Fan of knixphan 3 fans permalink

"Barack Obama, on the other hand, is a lot more careful about what he says, and uses a vocabulary that should be accessible to most high school grads, but, sadly, is not, so is perceived as snobbish."

RIGHT ON, Shimown.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 08/20/2008
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

he's careful with what he says......uumms....uumm....because he wants to distract from his radical views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 08/20/2008
- yhgtup I'm a Fan of yhgtup 12 fans permalink

MidSection, you said you were gay, & won't vote for Barack Obama. Obviously, you agree with John McCain's anti-gay marriage stance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 08/20/2008
- knixphan I'm a Fan of knixphan 3 fans permalink

OBAMA 08

This time I want a SMART president.

I want an egghead running this country!!!!!

Please!!! No more morons in the white house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 08/20/2008
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Except that according to the polls today, that smart guy is going to be McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 08/20/2008
- Aywaller I'm a Fan of Aywaller 5 fans permalink
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Except that McCain doesn't come off as a particularly smart guy. And we Americans will again suffer from having another less-than-intelligent president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/20/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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Did the msm tell you that? Oooh, you are soooo informed. s_cker!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/20/2008

REDROVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO YOU have any idea how much a poll counts right now???? Practically zero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 08/20/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 51 fans permalink
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Amazing how one poll (singular) magically morphs into "polls" (plural) in the minds of the trolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 08/20/2008

I SECOND THAT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 08/20/2008
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We can only hope that he is an egghead. We've got Fox News, mega-churches, the GOP, Madison Ave, and Paris Hilton. It's a tidle wave of "dumbing down".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 08/20/2008
- edgemo I'm a Fan of edgemo 6 fans permalink

Yeah, but would you want to have a beer with him.

The (big 'R')epulicans are those who have successfully (at least to the 25% who still think they are on the right track), demonized anyone with an intellect as the 'educated elite'. As though having a brain was somehow anti-american.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 08/20/2008
- lioness39 I'm a Fan of lioness39 50 fans permalink
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Please vote in an 'egghead'! It will be such sweet relief after eight years of a submarginal, mentally and intellectually challenged president who can't utter a sentence with more than nine words strung together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 08/20/2008

I prefer an intelligent President. After Bush, Obama is like a nice rain following a severe drought. Lesser intellect got us into this mess, bring on the smarts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 08/20/2008
- CactusTom I'm a Fan of CactusTom 33 fans permalink

Unfortunately humans react positively to decisive personalities no matter how ridiculous their message. I don’t want to see Obama turn into silly sound bites to match McFailure, but he does need to give his reasoned words at least a shaper more decisive ring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 08/20/2008
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