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NEDRA PICKLER | August 20, 2008 11:41 PM EST | AP

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Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., drives up to his home past the news media Wednesday, Aug. 20, 2008 in Greenville, Del. Biden, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine are believed to be on Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's short list. (AP Photo/Bradley C. Bower)

CHICAGO — Sen. Joe Biden has emerged as the favorite among Democrats to be Barack Obama's running mate for his understanding of foreign policy in grave global times and his fighting spirit against the rival Republican ticket.

Obama is keeping his decision quiet, but his staff in Chicago and party activists who await a decision are buzzing about Biden in large part because he can address two of Obama's biggest weaknesses _ his lack of experience, especially on world affairs, and his reluctance to go on the attack. The speculation is less of an indicator of whether Biden will ultimately be Obama's pick, and more of a recognition of the challenges their candidate faces at this pivotal moment in the race.

Obama plans to appear with his newly selected running mate Saturday, with the pick announced via text message to supporters. Obama also is widely thought to be considering Govs. Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Tim Kaine of Virginia, and Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana.

Biden, 65, was first elected to represent Delaware in 1972. Obama was 11 at the time; half the people living in the U.S. were not born when Biden arrived on Capitol Hill. He is a curious front-runner to join a ticket headed by Obama, who prevailed during the primaries by making the case that he is an outsider who can bring change to Washington.

Biden is a charismatic and hard-charging campaigner with a compelling personal story _ his wife and daughter were killed in a car accident a few weeks after he was first elected, but two sons survived serious injuries in the crash. Biden commuted home to Wilmington daily to care for them, a practice he continues to this day. The oldest son, Beau, is now Delaware's attorney general and a National Guard member whose unit is being deployed to Iraq in October.

Biden got another scare 10 years ago, when two brain aneurysms kept him out of the Senate for several months.

Biden returned Monday from a trip to Georgia at the invitation of the embattled country's president, a well-timed reminder of the value he could bring to Obama's ticket.

Fighting between Georgia and Russia has only increased the sense that Americans will turn to the candidate they believe will be a strong international leader. McCain brings a military background and leadership on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Obama only has served three years in Washington, but Biden is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where he has served for 33 years.

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Polls also show the race between Obama and GOP rival John McCain tightening, and Obama is responding by stepping up his attacks in speeches and commercials targeted to key states. Obama has never been entirely comfortable going negative, a move that threatens his call for civility in politics, but Biden has never shied from a fight.

"He's passionate, he's articulate and he's persuasive," said Democratic consultant Steve McMahon, among those who consider Biden Obama's smartest pick. "I think he would do for Senator Obama what Lyndon Johnson did for John Kennedy. He's got serious foreign policy experience, a long and distinguished Senate resume and he is one of the most effective surrogates that Senator Obama has right now who can go toe-to-toe with any Republican on any issue at any time."

Obama could have been describing Biden when he said in a speech Tuesday that he wants his running mate to be "somebody who is mad right now" about the state of the economy, an independent who will speak out when he's wrong and help him through major issues.

During the Democratic primary when he also sought the presidential nomination, Biden often made the most memorable impression in debates even though he was barely registering in the polls. He got big laughs for accusing Republican candidate Rudy Giuliani of mentioning three things in every sentence _ "a noun, a verb, and 9/11" _ and also leveled barbs at Obama.

He said he didn't think Obama was ready to be president yet, saying it's "not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." He offended some blacks when on the first day as an official presidential candidate he tried to compliment Obama as "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean." He dropped out of the race after a poor showing in Iowa.

Republicans would be sure to revive Biden's criticisms of Obama and already envision a line of attack that says Obama is so inexperienced he needs a running mate who has been in Washington longer than McCain, who was elected to Congress in 1982, a decade after Biden.

Biden is famous for being able to talk at length _ sometimes at mind-numbing length _ on any topic, but he has enhanced his standing in the vice presidential race by avoiding discussion of it.

Obama's running mate contenders have been instructed to be mum _ a trait not considered Biden's strong suit. But he has played by Obama's rules, denying he was being vetted when he most likely was. He bluntly acknowledged he'd take the job if asked, while jokingly warning that Obama might not want him.

"I made it clear to him and everybody else, I never worked for anybody in my life," he told reporters last month. "I got here when I was 29. I never had a boss. I don't know how I'd handle it."

He gave nothing away Wednesday, as reporters staked out his home in anticipation of the pick. The senator took a load of brush in the bed of a white Ford pickup truck to the dump. He returned about 2 1/2 hours later, saying he would be working on his property throughout the day and would have no further comment.

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I'm thrilled. I remember Biden in the days of Slade Gordon. He always advocated for Native Americans and seemed to really care about the underdog. I think he is as authentic as Obama, and I am so proud of our candidates!!! I can't wait for my bumper stickers!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 08/23/2008
- donnybrkgr I'm a Fan of donnybrkgr 4 fans permalink

GOP are afraid of Biden- My vote is for Biden all the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 08/22/2008
- Lautenberg I'm a Fan of Lautenberg 3 fans permalink
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I PREDICTED OBAMA/BIDEN IN MAY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 08/22/2008

I predicted Obama/Biden in APRIL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 08/22/2008
- marchamlin I'm a Fan of marchamlin 5 fans permalink

I predicted it back in 1999!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 08/22/2008
- kinnycut I'm a Fan of kinnycut 14 fans permalink
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I have always liked Joe Biden. He will be a great asset to Obama on the ticket. If people actually had wanted to choose the candidate with the most real experience during the primary, there is no way you could have looked past Biden. Obama does have a lot of good choices to pick from, and I am still reluctant to entirely rule out Hillary. I firmly believe if he is elected she will play a very important role in his presidency. I sense somekind of deal had to be made to get her cooperation. Biden as the VP choice will make the campaign a lot more interesting because his mouth is like a loaded gun with a hair trigger. If Mitt, or Christ is McCain's choice, and Biden is Obama's choice, I can't wait for the VP debate. Biden has the stuff to make either one of them look like total idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 08/22/2008

Like I posted earlier Biden is the VP my sources in Delaware/Newark connection have confirmed that he has notified the Obama camp. i believe he may be driving then flying to Illinois.
The most recent posts this evening by the more mainstream bloggers and contributors have come after my inital post at about 10:00pm .
Biden will be a very Presidential pick and Obama has little to lose by selecting him.
REMEMBER JSTRBEN POSTED THIS NOW AND A FEW HOURS BEFORE ALL THE BUZZ THAT WAS ON THIS BLOG

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 08/22/2008
- TNT2008 I'm a Fan of TNT2008 3 fans permalink

I shall remember you posted it JstrBen! And I pray to the heavens you are RIGHT!

0 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 08/22/2008
- Lautenberg I'm a Fan of Lautenberg 3 fans permalink
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Yeah, but I predicted it on this site in May before Obama had even beaten Hilary.

Remember Lautenberg told you so

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 08/22/2008

I predicted in 1982 that it was going to be Obama/Biden

Remember MAINMONKEY told you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 08/22/2008
- LizM I'm a Fan of LizM 50 fans permalink

I never shy away from calling the media and blogosphere out on their collective incompetence and ineptitude­...present site and blogger excluded, of course...but they have been very successful in preventing the most qualified candidate for President - and now, Vice President - from receiving an honest assessment from the electorate and, in so doing, perhaps ensuring that we will be facing a McCain administration in January 2009. Many comments here and everywhere else give proof to their great success.

The mainstream media narrative that has given rise to a national myth of epic proportions goes something like this:

[“Joe Biden is a gaffe-prone blowhard/Washington insider/plagiarist whose ego and arrogance are second in magnitude only to his love for the sound of his own voice and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously by us - the mainstream media and blogosphere, along with our celebrated pundits...or by anyone else, for that matter..until, of course, we need an expert to help us understand complicated issues of a foreign policy, national security, or constitutional nature.”]

The only grain of truth in all of that is that Senator Biden does speak at length and when he does, people become better informed - if they are smart enough to listen and not mistake a passion for sharing knowledge with arrogance and ego.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 08/22/2008
- LizM I'm a Fan of LizM 50 fans permalink

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Granted, not ALL of the media and blogosphere (mainstream and otherwise) feel the need to perpetuate the myth and actually verbalize this message - it is much easier to just ignore and dismiss him, as was done in this campaign. Besides, they didn't have to put voice to the message. They have long since accomplished the task of creating this seemingly self-sustaining myth that surrounded Senator Biden throughout this campaign and which was, as if preordained, gleefully taken up - hook, line and sinker - by a majority of the electorate.

If Senator Biden is not selected as the nominee for Vice President, with Special Portfolio on Iraq, then it will be America's great loss...and that of the world, at large.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 08/22/2008
- djohn78 I'm a Fan of djohn78 3 fans permalink

Its hillary! say no to Obama Bin Biden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 08/21/2008
- marchamlin I'm a Fan of marchamlin 5 fans permalink

Who's Hillary?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 08/22/2008
- foxfan I'm a Fan of foxfan 18 fans permalink

I am a Republican. In 2000 I voted for Al Gore. In 2004 I had to vote for GW because all the Democrats could offer was John Kerry. I have every intention of voting for Obama, but if he chooses Hillary as a VP, I will not. If he chooses Biden, I will have to seriously think about it. Anyone else would surely retain my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 08/21/2008
- diogeron I'm a Fan of diogeron 6 fans permalink

I agree. Joe Biden is my man and I'm from Indiana, home of Evan Bayh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 08/21/2008
- LizM I'm a Fan of LizM 50 fans permalink

I hope you are representative of the rest of the state!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 08/22/2008

"Leaks coming from the Obama camp now indicate Hillary Clinton will be Obama's VP. Mr Obama has no chance of winning without The Clintons and this just proves who the real president will be '. that headline is from hereidreport & everyone now agrees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 08/21/2008

What a dilemma:

If Obama doesn't choose Hillary, he has no chance of being elected President.

But if he does choose her, he has no chance of actually being President, because the Clintons won't allow it. Right after the inauguration, they'll tell him his office is in the South Wing, ha ha ha.

Either way, he won't be calling any shots in January.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 08/21/2008
- diogeron I'm a Fan of diogeron 6 fans permalink

That makes no sense. Hillary will do everything she can to support Obama. She knows that if she (and Bill) are blamed for Obama losing, she has zero chance of getting the nomination four years from now. If you think the Hillary supporters are mad because she lost the nomination in a close race, imagine how the Obama supporters would feel if they think Bill and Hillary helped elect McCain, who wants to appoint Supreme Court judges that would overturn Roe v. Wade, keep the Bush tax cuts for the rich, expand tax cuts for companies that send jobs overseas, not support extension of tax subsidies for alternative energies etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 08/21/2008
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LOL, I mean come on, what sort of inside sources would and anti-obama blogger have about the inner workings of Obama's Veep team. Just another wanna be talking out the side of their behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 08/22/2008
- marchamlin I'm a Fan of marchamlin 5 fans permalink

"that headline is from hereidreport & everyone now agrees."

Who is everyone? Everyone at hereidreport?

I don't believe a word that you are saying. You are a liar. You seem to cut and paste a lot of BS from that site. If I wanted to know what they were saying, I would go to their site. But I don't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 08/22/2008
- twohearts I'm a Fan of twohearts 2 fans permalink


I think Biden has great experience and might be a good choice - better than Gov. Kaine, that's for sure. Everyone has forgotten Sen. Reed from Rhode Island...he has military experience and did vote against the war. Rhode Island is too small, though.
I wish there were some way he could pick a good woman. But I think Clinton(s) are too big and egoistic to take on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 08/21/2008
- LizM I'm a Fan of LizM 50 fans permalink

But, Biden didn't "vote for war", either...ya know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 08/22/2008

I was watching a re-run of Curb Your Enthusiasm and thought that Larry and Joe Biden look alike-- in fact-- without hair Joe could pass as a brother or cousin to Larry-- and my overactive Jewish imagination took over--- have Joe Biden guest on season 7 as Larry's long lost cousin-- explain that Adele David had a 1st cousin who married into the big Biden family--- they lost touch -- and Joe finds out that Adele (now deceased as we all know) was distantly related and therefore-- he wants to meet Larry-- so they meet-- and become a mutual admiration society---Larry gets to go to Barack and Joe's Inaugural with the Blacks-- who then find out that they are related to Obama---

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 08/21/2008
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I am getting a little annoyed and disgruntled about the Veep tease that is going on. If any one from O's campaign is reading this you should note that there might be a lot of us who are getting tired of this long drawn out process. For gawd's sake if he knows who it is why can't he just announce it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 08/21/2008
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It makes him look bad and there is no way to leave feedback on his website so I am going public with my criticism here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 08/21/2008
- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 71 fans permalink

You'll know in a couple of days, we'll all know. But I'm sure if you let them know how annoyed you are, they'll announce--just for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 08/21/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 523 fans permalink
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This is silly. Senator Obama is waiting to announce his VP pick no longer than John McCain is waiting and no longer than most previous candidates before him have waited. In fact, the tradition is that the VP pick is announced at the convention or right before the convention, which is exactly what Senator Obama is doing. You may be impatient to know, but don't assign your impatience as a weakness in Senator Obama!

Try to remember that this election process is not about YOU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 08/22/2008

I think Joe's hair plugs have pulled his brain off its moorings people....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 08/21/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 147 fans permalink

Superficial much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 AM on 08/23/2008

Can someone explain why no one is talking about Wesley Clark?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 08/21/2008
- yallkiddn I'm a Fan of yallkiddn 7 fans permalink

Claire, Wesley Clark's now-infamous statement suggesting (about McC) that getting shot down in a plane over N. Vietnam was not a qualification for the presidency was what got Clark into trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 08/21/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 147 fans permalink

He was absolutely correct about what he said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 08/23/2008

Because Wesley Clark is a Clintonite and a nut who got relieved of command as Supreme Commander of NATO, that's why...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 08/21/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 68 fans permalink
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My guess is that someone close to Obama (Nunn? Brzezinski? some other neo-con?) has bad-mouthed Clark in order to advance some more conservative militarist he prefers.

The writing was on the wall when Clark stuck his neck out for Obama re: McCain's lack of foreign policy and military expertise and the GOP + MSM got away with swiftboating him for it.

Obama let Clark twist slowly in the wind. (I think that was just too much drama for Obama, too).

But I agree. Clark would have been great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 08/21/2008
- diogeron I'm a Fan of diogeron 6 fans permalink

I don't think Obama really did that. He defended Clark while still praising "McCain's service" but the media spun it beyond belief. I was a Clark supporter in 2004 and really like him. Let's make him Sec of Defense in an Obama administration so we will have somebody there who actually understands the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 08/21/2008
- AlphaDoc I'm a Fan of AlphaDoc 13 fans permalink

Wish I could. Clark would certainly be my first choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 AM on 08/22/2008
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