China Sentences 2 Elderly Women To Labor Camp For Protest Plans

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - China Sentences 2 Elderly Women To Labor Camp For Protest Plans stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

AUDRA ANG | August 20, 2008 05:56 PM EST | AP

Compare other versions »
I Like ItI Don’t Like It

BEIJING — Two elderly Chinese women who applied to hold a protest during the Olympics were ordered to spend a year in a labor camp, a relative said Wednesday. Police later squelched a pro-Tibet demonstration.

The women were still at home three days after being officially notified they would have to serve a yearlong term of reeducation through labor, but were under surveillance by a government-backed neighborhood group, said Li Xuehui, the son of one of the women.

Li said no cause was given for the order to imprison his 79-year-old mother, Wu Dianyuan, and her neighbor Wang Xiuying, 77.

"Wang Xiuying is almost blind and disabled. What sort of re-education through labor can she serve?" Li said in a telephone interview. "But they can also be taken away at any time."

Meanwhile, swarms of plainclothes police set upon four foreign activists early Thursday as they tried to stage a protest against Chinese rule over Tibet _ the latest in a series of unsanctioned demonstrations to occur during the Olympics.

Beijing announced last month that it would allow protests in three parks far from the Olympic venues during the games but they had to be approved in advance. Of the some 77 applications lodged so far, none have been approved, and rights groups have called the zones a charade.

The four unfurled a Tibetan flag and shouted "Free Tibet" south of the "Bird's Nest" National Stadium, the New York-based Students for a Free Tibet said. It put the number of police at 50; a spokeswoman for the Beijing Public Security Bureau declined comment.

"The fact that there were so many undercover police following them it just made them go with the action urgently," said Kate Woznow, the group's campaigns director.

Story continues below
advertisement

Two Associated Press photographers were roughed up by plainclothes security officers, forced into cars and taken to a nearby building where they were questioned before being released. Memory cards from their cameras were confiscated.

The four activists _ whose whereabouts were not known _ were identified by Students for a Free Tibet as Tibetan-German Florien Norbu Gyanatshang, 30; Mandie McKeown, 41, of Britain; and Americans Jeremy Wells, 38 and John Watterberg, 30.

The rough treatment and intimidation being meted out to foreigners and elderly Chinese underscore the authorities' determination to prevent any protests during the Olympics, even though Beijing Olympic organizers last month said demonstrations would be allowed in designated areas.

The elderly women, Wu and Wang, small and gray-haired, make unlikely activists. Wang, who used to sell ice cream, walks with a wooden cane, one hand holding onto Wu for support. But Li said they have been fighting since being kicked out of their Beijing homes in 2001 to make way for redevelopment.

They complained to district officials, then to city authorities, and finally demonstrated 16 times this year in two of Beijing's most sensitive areas _ Tiananmen Square and Zhongnanhai, the compound where China's leaders live and work.

After Beijing announced the Olympic protest zones, Wu and Wang applied repeatedly for a permit but failed to get one.

The cases of Wu and Wang "show that while China has now proven it is able to host international events to perfection, it still has a long way to go before it respects even minimal international human rights standards," said Nicholas Bequelin of the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

"China is riding roughshod over its promises to allow lawful protests during the games," he said.

The reeducation system, in place since 1957, allows police to sidestep the need for a criminal trial or a formal charge and directly send people to prison for up to four years to perform penal labor.

Giselle Davies, spokeswoman for the International Olympic Committee, said past Olympic hosts have designated protest areas and that the body hoped Beijing would stick to its promise of allowing demonstrations.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang declined to discuss the specifics of the protest policy at a regular news conference Wednesday. "In China, like in other countries, to apply for a demonstration, you have to obey the law," he said.

Tibet supporters have been among the most dogged groups trying to break Beijing's apparent ban on protests.

Five American bloggers writing about Tibet have been detained since early Tuesday in Beijing, said Students for a Free Tibet.

Also Tuesday, another five Americans who unfurled a "Free Tibet" banner near an Olympics venue were detained along with U.S. graffiti artist James Powderly, who planned to use laser beams to flash a similar message on buildings in Beijing, said Woznow. Powderly was still in detention, though the others have been released, she said.

_____

Associated Press Writer Dikky Sinn in Beijing contributed to this report.

BEIJING — Two elderly Chinese women who applied to hold a protest during the Olympics were ordered to spend a year in a labor camp, a relative said Wednesday. Police later squelched a pro-Tibet ...
BEIJING — Two elderly Chinese women who applied to hold a protest during the Olympics were ordered to spend a year in a labor camp, a relative said Wednesday. Police later squelched a pro-Tibet ...
Filed by Barbara Fenig  |  Report Corrections
 
Comments
82
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: 1 2 Next › Last » (2 pages total)
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
photo

Do the China bashers at this site realize that when the Chinese government ( the "barbaric rabid dogs" ) proposed improvements in working conditions for the Chinese factories making all the junk Ameericans demand at rock bottom prices, the foreign (mostly American) owners of those factories blocked the deal.

The American factory owners insisted on keeping the lowest wages possible, with no improved working conditions, for fear it would subtract from their bloated profits.

This is all well-documented if you are interested and want to take the time to do the research.

I was personally involved in trying to stop this outrage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 08/21/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
photo

More distortions by the Western press.

These two elderly ladies HAVE NOT BEEN SENT TO A LABOR CAMP OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

They were threatened, no doubt, but China has a ( to us ) peculiar system, whereby they get what amounts to two year's probation, at which time it is highly likely that the entire affair will be forgotten by the authorities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 08/21/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

Two years probation for free speech.....Keith and Rachel, where are you? Why so quiet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 08/21/2008
- DAE I'm a Fan of DAE 13 fans permalink
photo

The story on the home page still says "2 Elderly Chinese Women Sent To Labor Camp For Protest Plans" while the headline for the article reads "China Sentences 2 Elderly Women To Labor Camp For Protest Plans". That is a BIG difference. Headlines make a difference. Many readers just read the headline and don't go any further. It is dishonest journalism to do this and I'm afraid it's a common practice at HoffPost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 08/21/2008
- gluvox12 I'm a Fan of gluvox12 2 fans permalink

That makes it okay. No human rights violations here. Oooh, volleyball!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 08/21/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
photo

No one said it makes it "OK."

Did you ever hear of getting the facts straight before you bloviate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 08/21/2008
- Bluedog12 I'm a Fan of Bluedog12 11 fans permalink

Where did they send them? Walmart?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 08/21/2008
- esquire07 I'm a Fan of esquire07 25 fans permalink

Lol. You can bet the Neo-con criminals are taking notes on the way Chinese treat protesters. It is coming to America, faster than people think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 08/21/2008
- Blutus I'm a Fan of Blutus 11 fans permalink

The Chinese people are not allowed to own weapons.

Not the case in America. Not even close.

The Neo-Cons would be mowed down.

With great joy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 08/21/2008
- DAE I'm a Fan of DAE 13 fans permalink
photo

This story is full of half truths. The women were advised that they would be sentenced if they didn't shut up. Not to say that this puts the Chinese authorities in a good light, but they didn't arrest these women and send them off to a labor camp as the article suggests. And more to the point, there is no question that the Chinese authorities are often heavy handed and oppressive. There is also no question that on a per capita basis our judicial system jails 10 times more people other industrialized countries. We have 2.5 million people in jail whereas if we had a rate of incarceration equal to say the UK we would only have 300,000. That's an excess of 2.2 million citizens in jail for mostly non-violent drug related charges. Many are in jail due to plea bargaining even though they may be innocent of any charge but unable to afford a defense or prove their innocence. This is the reality in this country whether you like it or not. We have barbaric Super-Max prisons where inmates are literally locked up in kennels like dogs. So enough of the self-righteousness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 08/21/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 45 fans permalink
photo

Good point!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 08/21/2008
- DAE I'm a Fan of DAE 13 fans permalink
photo

You can read the story at http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/21/china.humanrights. The women are at home under supervision of a neighborhood committee. So the headline is false and misleading.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 08/21/2008

but we as americans loooove to hear how horrible the chinese are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 08/21/2008
- Blutus I'm a Fan of Blutus 11 fans permalink

But no one has a clue what the incarceration
rate in China is. Nor the execution rate nor the rate of female
infanticide.

Compare the two countries if you want, but the comparison
is absurd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 08/21/2008
- DAE I'm a Fan of DAE 13 fans permalink
photo

Its absurd that we have 2.5 million people in jail. Our incarceration rate is over 800/100,000. In 1965 it was 100/100,000 and the crime rate is the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 08/21/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
photo

Not just on a per capita basis.

The USA, with one-fourth the population, has, right now, more people in prison, in actually numbers, than China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 08/21/2008
- Chubbster I'm a Fan of Chubbster 33 fans permalink

Due no doubt to the popular CHINESE process of summary execution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 08/22/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 45 fans permalink
photo

Well, agree with it or not, the Chinese are consistant in enforcing their laws.

High up or low down the ladder, all are accountable to the law, unlike certain democratic nations!

Given their age one would hope the authorities would show some human compassion!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 08/21/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
photo

Not to say I agree with it, but in China people are executed for "economic crimes," including making tons of money on the faulty construction of a bridge that later collapses with loss of life.

Also embezzlement, financial fraud, and the like has been punished with the death penalty.

When I lived in Beijing, several city officials, including the vice mayor, were executed for "political corruption."

No doubt there are some US citizens who wouldn't object to following China's lead in this regard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 08/21/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

As many Chicago politicians as we have that are corrupt, we'd run out of bullets if we had the same policy here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 08/21/2008
photo

Slavery is freedom.
War is peace.
Etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 08/21/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

Again, you won't see Olbermann and Maddow say one word about this. In the end, there just employees who do what NBC says, aren't they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 08/21/2008
- mirza I'm a Fan of mirza 10 fans permalink

Excellent point! This needs to get more attention

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 08/21/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
photo

Funny, I didn't know that Olbermann and Maddow worked for the IOC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 08/21/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

No, but they're working for NBC whose paying for much of these olympics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 08/21/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
photo

Rachael Maddow spoke about this case on her radio show LAST NIGHT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 08/21/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

I take it that its NOT a NBC affiliate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 08/21/2008
- Amalek I'm a Fan of Amalek 99 fans permalink
photo

That would be a good republican social security fix. Send the old farts off for "reeducation".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 08/21/2008
photo

China's just a little late. We beat em with slavery decades ago. All that (almost) free labor got this country where it is today, or rather where it was pre-Bush. Chinese society is used to govt. controling their lives, isn't that what govt. does? Public Service Announcement: don't ever go against the government, it's such a waste of your time, and you could be out shopping instead, you know, building the economy and getting that victorian wallpaper border for your Tuscan-style ranch house that you know you need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 08/21/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

But they're catching up now with the sweatshop conditions of those shoe companies there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 08/21/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 270 fans permalink
photo

Question is woulf they have been put anywhere if a Reporter was not watching everything??????

Would they have been handeled differently.????

I suspect they would have but allowing a BARBARIAN to know their business causes problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 AM on 08/21/2008
- sassafra I'm a Fan of sassafra 19 fans permalink
photo

thank you china. thank you ioc. thank you nbc. thank you all you craven lickspittle journalists who carried the 1936 olympiad mk II

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 08/21/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
photo

Wow, can't believe you'd trample all over Jesse Owen's legacy like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 08/21/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 61 fans permalink

Ain't it awful? How is this different then our sending hundreds of "suspected terrorists" to Gitmo for five years? Look at the trial of the first "terrorist". He drove a car. Does this mean all taxi drivers on a regular run or chauffeurs (sp) could have the same fate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 08/21/2008
- quintus I'm a Fan of quintus 11 fans permalink

It's not very different and that's what America has come down to. Blame all around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 08/21/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
photo

The Red Chinese are murdering barbaric dogs...they are our most dangerous enemy not Russia..or the Russians..!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 08/20/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 61 fans permalink

And they own the US. Does that strike terror in your heart? Maybe you should call them by a different name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 08/21/2008
- quintus I'm a Fan of quintus 11 fans permalink

Yes, we owe China a lot of money. Why? Because our failed government was greedy and lacked vision and was willing to make a deal with the devil.

We're already paying for this relationship. Bad juujuu, bad karma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 08/21/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

So did you protest (at Seattle) in the mid-90's when Clinton cut all these one-sided trade deals with China. I bet you didn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 08/21/2008
photo

I grew up in China and used to criticize the government on just everything, from polluted rivers to crowded buses. I have a 77 year old mother living in China. You don't have to believe me but I can assure you that this story has NO credit!! Today's China, Communists or bastards, don't treat elderly this way unless they committed a serious crime.

It is a country with 1.3 billion people. It is okay for some people to be upset and angry at government. It is just normal. If China is a the monster you imagine, this quoted gentleman would not be speaking to Western press about his jailed mother!! The story has no credibility! You are just helping some poor journalists trying to make a career and get attention.

To get your blood pressure really high, read this: 'China fakes Olympics, US fakes everything'
http://blog.chinationreport.com/category/politics/

Take it easy. Don't lose sleep over this.
http://www.chinationreport.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 08/20/2008
- quintus I'm a Fan of quintus 11 fans permalink

Are you a Chinese government stooge? If not, you're sure responding like one! Sad and pathetic.

If these old women were your grandmothers, I don't think you'd be able to sleep at night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 08/21/2008
- Donns I'm a Fan of Donns 7 fans permalink

We thank the Ambasador for taking the time to reply to this posting

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 08/21/2008
- Amalek I'm a Fan of Amalek 99 fans permalink
photo

I expect the old ladies are in trouble for what they did, and I expect the punishment is that they are under the supervision of their unfortunate neighbors. Nothing further will happen to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 08/21/2008
- pico I'm a Fan of pico permalink

Defend the Motherland at all costs! China is rising and you West don't like it. Shame them by showing them how much worse they are! Insert "slavery," "Indian," "Iraq" - argument over!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 08/21/2008
Page: 1 2 Next › Last » (2 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect