Cost Not Often Factor When Picking College

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CANDICE CHOI | August 20, 2008 06:03 AM EST | AP

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A banner welcomes students to the University of Texas campus in this Aug. 21, 2006, file photo in Austin, Texas. Most American families don't factor in their child's expected earning power when considering the potential debt load for college, a study released Wednesday by student lender Sallie Mae found. (AP Photo/Harry Cabluck, file)

NEW YORK — Even if a student plans on a major where the financial rewards aren't so obvious, such as art history or philosophy, most American families don't factor in their child's expected earning power when considering the potential debt load for college.

That's according to a study released Wednesday by student lender Sallie Mae, which also found 40 percent of families don't limit their search for a school based on the total expense.

"When you think about how we make decisions for cars and mortgages, and how we eliminate options based on cost, that's not necessarily the case for college," said Tom Joyce, senior vice president of Sallie Mae.

The study also found that lower-income families use more grants and scholarships, while middle-income families rely slightly more heavily on borrowing, and more affluent families tap more savings and income.

Lower-income families were defined as households earning between $35,000 and $50,000. Middle-income families were defined as households earning $50,000 to $100,000 a year. Higher-income families were defined as earning more than $100,000.

Picking a school is "very much an emotional decision," but families still need to weigh the financial impact of their choices, said Fredrick Adkins, a certified financial planner and president of The Arkansas Financial Group Inc., based in Little Rock, Ark.

"At some point, if it's going to totally put a family's finances in jeopardy, rationality needs to factor in," he said.

The study by Sallie Mae, formally SLM Corp., was based on telephone interviews with 1,400 parents and undergraduates enrolled in the 2007-08 academic year.

The study found there was no average funding formula used by families. For example, while middle-class families relied most heavily on borrowing for total costs, some 53 percent of families did not borrow at all.

The higher borrowing by some middle-class families may be a result of their reaching to pay for pricier schools. Despite their moderate incomes, middle-class students reported attending private four-year universities at nearly the same rate as more affluent students (20 percent, compared to 22 percent).

On average, parents footed nearly half the cost of tuition, paying for 32 percent with current income and savings, and borrowing for another 16 percent. Students paid for a third of costs through borrowing, income and savings.

Scholarships and grants covered 15 percent, according to the study.

Other advantageous options for paying for college _ such as 529 college savings funds _ are not being widely used; only 9 percent of families reported using the tax-free accounts. But of those who did, the average amount was $7,964, the highest source of any personal contribution.

NEW YORK — Even if a student plans on a major where the financial rewards aren't so obvious, such as art history or philosophy, most American families don't factor in their child's expected earn...
NEW YORK — Even if a student plans on a major where the financial rewards aren't so obvious, such as art history or philosophy, most American families don't factor in their child's expected earn...
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Trump University? What's the nickname of their athletic teams - the Fighting Combovers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 08/23/2008
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 140 fans permalink

Perhaps the greatest illusion that's still shoved-off onto people is that "an expensive school is the Golden Ticket that gets you the cushy job."

Just tell that to more than 20,000 New Yorkers who used to work on Wall Street.

Believe it or not, your local community college is a great place to get the first two years in, and your local four-year school is just as good a place as any to finish the rest of a baccalaureate degree. If you decide to spend the four years and the all-that-dough to actually get such a thing, it's WHAT =YOU= DO NEXT that really matters. It's the ONLY thing that really matters.

"Make of it what Y-O-U will." You might well find that a two-year ticket is good enough. You might find that whatever job you take, you actually learn on-the-job anyway and it doesn't really matter what your sheepskin is in or even if you have one. If you have, or can self-develop, good planning and strategic skills ... if you can, or can learn how to, speak and write effectively and clearly ... if you are always a person of your word and give your best-effort to whatever you do ... you really don't need a cap-n-gown to do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 08/21/2008
- LitDr2B I'm a Fan of LitDr2B 4 fans permalink
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Good point about community colleges.

I'll go one step further: Not everyone is suited for university-level education, and I think we have done a grave disservice to the past couple of generations in promoting the myth that You Must Go To College To Have A Good Job/Decent Life/Self Esteem/Etc. And it's certainly not requisite for "finding yourself"-­-especiall­y not at tax payers' expense.

Too many resources are wasted in encouraging every single high school student to attend college. I've had many students who clearly did not want to be there, could not keep up with the work, who barely scraped by. These students would have been better suited to community college or vocational­/technical education.

We need to certainly encourage and financially help those who are academically inclined--as well as subsidizing voc/tech ed. Along with this, our society needs to de-stigmatize working class jobs, and recognize that carpenters, plumbers, medical techs, auto engineers and mechanics, and the whole gamut of non-white-collar professions have valuable roles in our society--roles that those of a less academic bent could proudly fill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 08/21/2008
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 140 fans permalink

"Community colleges" are held-up to exactly the same standards of accreditation as their four-year brethren. (For that matter, so are vocational colleges.)

I personally know a great many successful people who did not attend a single day of college, but who wound up teaching at one from time to time ... as experts in the fields that they had self-mastered.

"Do what you love, and they money will follow. Then, eventually, go do something else that you love." But whatever you -do- do, "learn to do it right, and then do it well." (You can get a diploma but never learn that!)

"Academic" is much too limiting. Lots of things in this world can't be taught by studying them; only by doing them. If you don't believe that, go build a house or plumb it in. Go fix a car. Go build a brick wall... Our society is utterly dependent upon the people who have mastered those skills, and those people are certainly just "as 'smart' as" anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 08/22/2008
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I think it is important to remember that the system is what is screwed up, not the rationality of the individual. It costs too much money to go to college, and most people can't afford it. But most people know how important a college education is, so they go anyway. Here's what we should do: everybody pay a little more in taxes to provide students with the chance to go to a public university for free. If education is really so important to our society, people should be willing to do this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 08/21/2008
- iambusto I'm a Fan of iambusto 5 fans permalink

ya...there is a solution. put some more burden on the taxpayer.

how about let the tax payer demand that all the useless programs (you know where you have a degree by name but cant get a 50K job even) be abolished. we dont want taxpayer footing the bill for people going to university to "find themselves".

University is not a place to find yourself. Get a degree than can be cashed out as a well paying job. thats it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 08/21/2008
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I believe a University is exactly the place to find yourself, and taxpayers need to decide what the priorities of society should be. Education is the most important aspect of a society, and government policies should reflect this. If we were to provide free college education to anyone who wants it, it would enrich our society. The rewards far outweigh the sacrifice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 08/21/2008
- Triangle1 I'm a Fan of Triangle1 4 fans permalink
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One of the biggest mistakes I see in a cross section of educated people I know is that they have a bloated, irrelevant college education experience, and they continue to drag this dead weight around with them for years. It's not uncommon for people to graduate college with $80,000 in debt. Then it takes them years to get a good professional job that allows them to even start to make a dent in this debt. Or they end up filing for bankruptcy to get it off their backs. It's a nice thought that you'll spend a lot of money for an education, get a high paying job, pay your debt off in 5 years, and live wealthily ever after. That reality is a different story. Some of the most successful people I know managed to get through school with $10,000 or less in debt - including myself. I graduated from a decent Midwestern university with only $5000 in student loan debt. No parental help either. I advise people to focus equally on real world experience that actually pays, including things like internships. Solid writing and communication skills. These really make more of a difference than the expensive brand name education. http://mespace.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 08/21/2008
- lylo I'm a Fan of lylo 5 fans permalink

Nope. Bankruptcy DOES NOT work like that anymore.
Look into it. Then thank G.W. B ush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 08/24/2008
- iambusto I'm a Fan of iambusto 5 fans permalink

Maybe my previous post wasnt clear about what i wanted to say. too bad you cant edit your previous post in huffpo !!

What I was trying to say that there are plenty of universities in California (since you picked universities in california for your example). All the local students dont have to go to UCLA or UC Berkley. there is the whole "cal state" system. a lot of other UC's.

It is unreasonable to expect a university to start accepting students just because they fulfill some arbitary standard. Remember, the class sizes are fixed. So if say x number of students who all surpass the minimum application standard, doesnt mean all will get admitted. The university will just take the cream off the top. thats all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 08/20/2008

It is too bad that state schools don't give priority to all qualified students who live near their campuses, not just to academic superstars or to athletes, wherever they are from in the state or even out of state. If students living at home could get to college via bus or subway instead of having to live on campus etc. they would finish their higher education with very little debt outstanding. It is hard to believe that UCLA could not recruit enough qualified students within Los Angeles County, at least at the undergraduate level. Ditto for UC Berkeley and just about every other state school in a medium or large metro area in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 08/20/2008
- iambusto I'm a Fan of iambusto 5 fans permalink

What makes you think that UCLA is having trouble attracting quality students in their campus? do you even know how tough it is to get into Anderson School of Management (UCLA) ? Its the #1 part-time MBA program (not #1 in full-time of course!!) in the country, costs about 90000$ for the whole program . Extremely tough to get into !!

Students dont pay enough attention in picking their majors, i'll tell you that. Going into 800000+ debt to to Law/Medici­ne/Busines­s makes sense, makes very little sense to go into much debt if you are going to study arts/scien­ce/enginee­ring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 08/20/2008

Geesh 800,000. dollar debt ? what school did you go to..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 08/20/2008

I didn't say that the school is having trouble attracting quality students, only that it should give preference to local students who meet the academic requirements. It is expensive to "go away to college". Many young people ending up leaving college with huge debts. It should be government policy to encourage them to attend state colleges locally. In 1970, tuition was about $2,500 a year to attend a good MBA program. I feel sorry for today's graduates, most of whom will not earn the kind of money that warrants taking on hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, even for a professional degree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 08/20/2008
- Bettysdad I'm a Fan of Bettysdad 56 fans permalink
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Yeah, It's really stupid to get into debt studying something you don't think is important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 08/20/2008
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I think its funny that when you're young, teachers and parents will all tell you to do what you love to do. Then, when you get older, everyone starts telling you to forget about doing what you love to do, and pick a career that will make the most money. It all becomes about money when we get older, doesn't it?

I also think its funny how everyone will tell you in your junior/ senior years of high school that "you must go to college if you want to be successful­." But they never tell you that the average student finishes with about $25,000 of debt. And even if they did, you don't really understand how much that is until you try to pay it off. Not to mention that the next two necessities for success, 1) car, 2) house, also mean more debt. Before you know it, the system has complete control over you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 08/21/2008
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