Obama "Infanticide" Smear Gains Traction: Campaign Forced To Rebut

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First Posted: 08-20-08 01:40 PM   |   Updated: 09-20-08 05:12 AM

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Two weeks ago, when the Huffington Post reported that the "infanticide" charge against Barack Obama was gaining traction in right-wing circles, the Illinois Democrat's campaign had not placed the issue on its "Fight the Smears" website. According to an Obama aide who spoke on background, the campaign did not see a compelling reason for lending greater profile to the attacks with a full-blown response.

On Wednesday, however, the campaign posted an exhaustive rebuttal to the "infanticide" charge -- a tacit admission that the controversy over a spate of anti-abortion bills that Obama opposed as an Illinois State Senator is not going away.

The event that forced the Obama camp's hand was a new push by the National Right to Life Committee. Late last week, the group announced that it had obtained details of a 2003 committee vote that contradicted Obama's past explanation for his opposition to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act while serving in the State Senate.

In past statements, Obama had described his opposition to multiple versions of the bill as stemming from concerns that the bill could endanger Roe vs. Wade. The first two iterations of the Illinois bill did not contain language that explicitly re-affirmed abortion rights granted under Roe. The NRLC now points out that the 2003 version contained a "neutrality" clause similar to that of the federal version -- for which Obama says he would have voted.

Thus, the NRLC announced that it had discovered the mendacity and manipulation at the heart of Barack Obama's pro-choice position: support for the grave charge of "infanticide."

Since Obama initially carved out his response to the controversy on Roe-centric grounds, any maneuvering he performs now might seem like a slimy cover-up to low-information voters. But as the campaign's fact sheet reveals today, there were numerous other reasons for a pro-choice politician to stand against the Illinois legislation at the time, outside of a furtive desire to kill children.

Those reasons included the fact that the Illinois legislation was bundled together with a measure that threatened doctors with criminal prosecution if they incorrectly applied the Born Alive bill. When NRLC legislative director Douglas Johnson claims that Illinois Senate bills 1082 and 1083 had no relationship outside of being sequentially numbered, and that they "were not in any way linked," he is either under-informed or willfully bending the record. Both bills were introduced by the same senator, and the Born Alive act only passed when the doctor-intimidation measure was dropped in 2005 (after Obama had moved to the U.S. Senate).

A local AP wire story (not available online) from March 9, 2005 reflects the reality that the two bills were always considered connected. Reporting on the passed version of the Born Alive measure, the agency wrote: "Unlike earlier versions that failed, this bill does not spell out what medical care doctors must provide when an abortion procedure ends in a live birth. The legislation also specifically says it has no impact on Illinois abortion laws."

In addition, Obama's Wednesday fact sheet appropriately makes the distinction between federal and state roles in regulating abortion. Put simply, the U.S. Senate was at greater liberty to expound on the definition of "born alive" infants, since it plays a rather small role in regulating abortion practice. States, on the other hand, must make sure that any new definition of "born alive" can comport with other existing statutes. As Planned Parenthood's Illinois chapter wrote in its own policy memo: "Federal law does not regulate abortion practice. That is left to the states. Therefore, it is state legislation that would affect abortion practice in Illinois."

Given the headache-inducing wonkery at work, it's not hard to understand why the Obama campaign didn't immediately dive into the Senator's past policy to rebut a charge that fared so poorly for Alan Keyes in his 2004 Senate campaign.

But with the resurgent Born Alive debate rating coverage on the Christian Broadcast Network as well as The Washington Post and The New York Times, the Obama campaign now apparently feels that traveling into the weeds of the issue is less damaging than allowing the NRLC's charges to go unchallenged.

Two weeks ago, when the Huffington Post reported that the "infanticide" charge against Barack Obama was gaining traction in right-wing circles, the Illinois Democrat's campaign had not placed the issu...
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- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

PREVENTION of PREGNANCY should be taught .to all kids.
NO pregnancy = NO ABORTION

ABORTION IS EVIL , biut JUST a necessary evil , sometimes..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/21/2008
- dutchess2 I'm a Fan of dutchess2 19 fans permalink

All those republicans that can't keep it in their pants will never, ever vote to do away with
abortion..

Might make for too much embarrassment for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 08/21/2008

What will Obama crawfish on this weekend? How soon will he pander to the far left and call margaret Sanger a patriot? Libs are real bright....they allowed Rove and "C" student Bush to beat them for 8 years. By the way, where is Michelle? Be strong Clintonistas! In spite of the fact that the Messiah is the candidate, God is on your side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 08/21/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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I have read incoherent and delusional posts in my time, but I think this one tops the list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 08/21/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 264 fans permalink
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I agree...well, it's not the worst I've seen, maybe the third worst. Even so, it is just garbage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 08/21/2008

Every other day Barry and Obamamaniacs are spinning this and apoligizing about that. Will it change this weekend? In the polls that you cherish he is behind. I hope that nothing next week is above his paygrade.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 08/21/2008
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You forgot your meds today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 08/21/2008
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Uh,you mean CHEAT,dontcha Soul281?
2000: Florida,FOX NEWS,Katherine Harris,rallies stuffed with Pub staffers,roadblocks,and the Supreme Court.
2004 : "Swift Boating",Ohio,Kenneth Blackwell,80lb.paper,broken/missing machines in Dem.areas,fake terror threats,and "wrong" exit polls.
"Soul281" : what did you do to get designated the 281st soul to follow McBeelzebub through the Gates of Hell? That's pretty high up on the seating chart...
Michelle just MIGHT be home,taking care of their two children...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 08/21/2008
- lennix I'm a Fan of lennix 6 fans permalink

this so call church people are the worst they call on god on one hand and do the devil work on the other with lies this is why people are turn off by the church they hide behind the word of god with nothing but hate in thier hearts nad what about judge not yet you be judge

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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Its really hard to find a real Christian these days ... a lot that you see are what I refer to as "go to church on Sunday then put the Holy Bible in a drawer for the rest of the week". These people have no clue what living a Christian life is about. To them it is getting their way and how that is done doesn't matter. These are the people that have NO regard for the Constitution especially the "division of church and state" part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 08/21/2008

I can't believe how dumb the American people are, they will believe anything. Goering was right just say it enough times and the people will believe it. We Americans will get the kind of government we deserve. I beginning to believe the average intellence of the American public is that of an eight grader. The country is in trouble, we have a failing economy,the largest defict in the nation's history, our sons and daughters are getting killed in two wars, we have one of the worst healthcare systems of all the civilalized countries in the world, our education system is in bad shape, we have more people in prision per capa than any other country, the gap between the rich and poor keeps getting bigger, the wealth of the country is concentrated in a few rich people who run the country for their own profit. On top of all this we have one of the most currupt governments in recent history and you people believe in a bunch of nonsense put out by a bunch of right wing nuts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 08/20/2008
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Shame on you,arocco! It's not an 8th grader!
It's a 5th grader - and when we're "smarter" than one, we jump and shout!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 08/21/2008

To the TROLLS who graduated like McCain at the bottom of their class here is the whole issue in a nutshell - if you can't read it - let us Obama supporter (the smart group) tutor you:

Obama disagreed with a measure of the Bill that threatened doctors with criminal prosecution if they incorrectly applied the Born Alive bill. When NRLC legislative director Douglas Johnson claims that Illinois Senate bills 1082 and 1083 had no relationship outside of being sequentially numbered, and that they "were not in any way linked," he is either under-informed (Republican) or willfully bending the record (Republican). Both bills were introduced by the same senator, and the Born Alive act only passed when the doctor-intimidation measure was dropped in 2005 (after Obama had moved to the U.S. Senate).

Now you can try and turn this non-issue into an issue but please remember Obama voters are smart, we understand exactly what thisis about and we also understand that you don't. Now go pray!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 08/20/2008
- lady49 I'm a Fan of lady49 8 fans permalink

THANK-YOU!!!

WELL SAID!!!

THIS NON- ISSUE is circulating because because Sean Hannity still has his thumb stuck up in Rush Limbaugh's most distal orifice!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 08/20/2008
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

Oh God let us win and move beyond those who have introduced HATE-MONGERING in the name of religion in our beloved country.

Facinrealit ........... these republican fools can only criticize by distorting , they do not want to offer any positive plans to help the people.
Today I heard LIMBAUGH accuse someone of being a HATE-Monger...................IA NOT LIMBAUGH THE HATEMONGER par excellence ????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 08/20/2008
- CarmanK I'm a Fan of CarmanK 41 fans permalink

The problem isn't the Obama voters, it's all the others: 30% of the people who believe Bush is a good president and the racists who wouldn't vote for a "black"man even if God spoke from the Burning Bush.
Then there are the hard core "Hillary" voters who value their allegiance to an individual more than their country. Then there are the "Independents" who really are the cowards, who don't want have to make hard decisions in the primaries, so they cop out.
Obama is the one who can free us from the Republican Party Tyrany. Hillary said in the Primaries, that Obama could win the election. And that she will do everything she can to make it happen. Now is the time for her to step up!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 08/21/2008
- kravitz I'm a Fan of kravitz 2 fans permalink

OBAMA CAMPAIGN. RESPOND TO THIS....

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/20/heres-the-audio-of-obama-endorsing-infantici/

it will be all over hannity. may as well deal with it now, rather than wait on your pretty little nerd cushions like this latest mess you guys underestimated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 08/21/2008
- ranchosx I'm a Fan of ranchosx 4 fans permalink

i agree! let the morons make fools of themselves. they hate us for trying to help them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 08/21/2008

Well, that all sounds find and dandy. He is saying that now, but he wasn't stating those reasons on the floor. Something about the baby being a burden to the mother...

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/20/heres-the-audio-of-obama-endorsing-infantici/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 08/21/2008
- vonny I'm a Fan of vonny 2 fans permalink

The bad thing is......BO was the ONLY one who voted to withhold medical treatment for a baby borned alive.
That's pretty low. That's the reason the BO camp didn't want to have to answer anything about this.

He should have voted "present" or acted like he pushed the wrong button.........again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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Give it a break, your ignorance is showing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 08/20/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 49 fans permalink
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provide proof

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 08/20/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 68 fans permalink
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You have absolutely no credibility. You can't engage in intelligent discourse, therefore you smear. Typical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 08/20/2008

vonny , You Got It Right !!! Obama Is Really Ugly On The Inside
Democrats Like Myself Are Truly Sickened By This Monster Called Obama .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 08/21/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 227 fans permalink
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Please enlighten us all as to how exactly Barack Obama is a "monster".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 08/21/2008

I wondered immediately why he didn't vote present on this, like he did everything else. He must have felt strongly on this issue, enough to tie himself to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 08/21/2008
- marthlois I'm a Fan of marthlois 27 fans permalink

John McCain and the entire GOP can throw this trash as much as they want. And while it's deplorable in its attempt to defame Obama's character - they all need to take that nasty finger they are pointing and turn it right back into their own faces.

What right have they to sacrifice the lives of men and woman in futile wars, to create yet another contentious area in Russia (YES, I said CREATE) and then flex their muscles - which have no mass - in the face of the Russians with missiles, etc. Do tell about aborting human lives! Do tell! How dare they all. How many more wars would John McCain give our BORN children to? Hypocritical - Warmongering and most important trying to make the American people fear fear fear fabricated enemies & wars! Tell me - that bill that Bush signed? Dare he continue to create a state of emergency to call off these elections? All eyes are now on him and his fear-mongering GOP. NOT THIS TIME!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 08/20/2008

Don't forget they are the pro-life party. Have baby we kill them in wars and death penalty party! Pro-life at its best! You see that they haven't tried to do anything with abortion in the many years they have controlled the white house, senate or congress - it is their election year coming to jesus rally call. If they had a chance they would not reverse roe vs wade - how would they win elections?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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I think Bush would dare anything. That is why I'm anxiously awaiting election day. If George thought he wouldn't be held accountable, he would. His biggest problem now is that America is finally starting to see the tip of the iceberg in relation to the criminal acts of this administration. Good thing Americans have the right to own firearms, that's probably the ONLY thing stopping him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 08/20/2008
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

CREATE is CORRECT........... Marthlois
they create wars and this Georgia timing was made to suit McCain by his protege shakasvili( i cannot corectly spell his name ) while BUSH and OBAMA were OUT of TOWN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 08/20/2008
- Superbus I'm a Fan of Superbus 27 fans permalink
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This is a loser for Obama. Allowing newborn babies to die without medical care is an extreme position that not even Nancy Pelosi would approve of. Obama does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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NO HE DOESN'T ! DO THE RESEARCH THEN TALK !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 08/20/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 49 fans permalink
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and where us your proof of this

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 08/20/2008
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Allowing a baby born alive to die has been illegal in Illinois since the 1800s.

So what is this hullabaloo all about????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 08/21/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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My mother had an abortion, sometime around 1951. Neither of my parents ever described the gory details, but they described the place they went, how they felt, and how that experience changed their lives. It was an awful, degrading, and frightening experience for them both. At the time, they felt, another child would put the entire family in jeopardy (they already had two kids, no money).

Anyone who wants to turn back the clock to those days will never get my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 08/20/2008
- Superbus I'm a Fan of Superbus 27 fans permalink
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This is not about turning back the clock. It's about babies born alive who are allowed to die without medical care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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No, this is about disinformation and ignorance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 08/20/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 49 fans permalink
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again proof

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 08/20/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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Wrong. Every small step taken is a leap toward overturning the entire law. Don't kid yourself, or try to fool anyone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 08/20/2008
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Well, you'd have to turn the clock back a long time.

Allowing babies born alive to die has been illegal since the 1800s.

So what is all this about???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 08/21/2008
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

ST. Augustin (if i am correct) said the GOV is a NECESSARY EVIL
so is ABORTION I say

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 08/20/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 61 fans permalink

Most medical procedures are gory such as a life saving heart transplant. And, people sometimes have difficulty with recovery afterward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 08/20/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 281 fans permalink
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Your mother told you about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 08/21/2008
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Did you hear Obama at the Rick Warren FlimFlamShow...? He said that he wanted to make sure that women were made aware of the many options they have BESIDES abortion. I can only assume that the regrettable procedure of abortion has come a LONG way in 50+ years. I am pro-choice,because I thnk that women should be free to decide what they want to do with THEIR child.
Obama's not trying to turn back any clock...If you don't want to vote for Obama,that's fine,but don't just latch onto any "excuse" to vote for someone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 08/21/2008

I'm curious about you Trolls. Why do you hate intelligence? You LOVE Bush, who wouldn't get hired as a Denny's Mgr (I stand corrected. He's Denny's type) w/o connections. You have to admit on some level, that a McCain presidency would be an even bigger disaster, simply because the Nation's no longer has the cushion it did when GWB was "elected".. Tax breaks for the wealthy, the Draft, Roe vs Wade (oh, and to the wise guy who said the republicans haven't tried to overturn it yet, so it's "scare tactics", get a clue. You guys entire CAMPAIGNS are about FEAR. Which make sense because everyone knows that the Earth has never seen bigger Cowards than you chickenhawks)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 08/20/2008

What did Barry Marx Obama the community organizer do in the private sector? How much do you pay in taxes? Why not check te box and voluntarily pay more out of the goodness of your heart? What does it say about libs when an "idiot" like Bush can stay a step ahead of you for 8 years? If they take back the tax breaks some of you burger flippers may get laid off. If WalMart is attacked many consumers will pay more. How soon does Maxine and Obama plan to socialize the energy sector? When will Margaret Sanger Day become official?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 08/20/2008
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Your delusion and paranoia -- you forgot your meds today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 08/21/2008
- Swedishgal I'm a Fan of Swedishgal 17 fans permalink

We voted for the right guy in both elections. The 'idiots' are the ones on your side for believing the Rovian tactics that were used and the MSM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 08/21/2008
- Janskats I'm a Fan of Janskats 6 fans permalink

Why is anyone paying attention to this crud? We all know that the reicht-wing diehards are going to think only the worst of Obama or any other Dem candidate..and what isn't there, they will make up as they go along, to justify their pointy-headed "opinions"! If you are so stupid, so base, so ignorant and so lazy as to believe a bunch of garbage-souled idiots, without considering the context in which the original legislation was written, then y'all should just jump aboard the next train to Dummyland! I am so weary of these morons..so eager to preserve their Aryan Nation "principles"..fighting to the end to preserve their right to be ignorant, uninformed and inbred! Well..worry not..you've acheived that greatest goal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 08/20/2008

That is a womans decision and thats that. The pro life Movement isn't more important than anybody else and I'm tired of hearing about them. If they are so concerned about having a pro life candidate than they should be worried about Mccain who may have a pro life VP because he's nothing but a phony anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 08/20/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 68 fans permalink
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Are you confusing pro-life with pro-choice. Mac is considering pro-choice VP's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 08/20/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 227 fans permalink
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If abortion were illegal, and if the pro-life movement considers abortion murder, what would the appropriate punishment be for a woman who breaks that law?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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Stoning of course! They ARE fundamentalists after all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 08/20/2008

good one

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 08/20/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 68 fans permalink
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Rev. W@rren asked when does human rights apply. Mac answered at conception. Does that mean when a woman is 2 weeks pregnant (or whenever she knows) she claim the fetus as an exemption on her 1040?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 08/20/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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Only if it gets a SSN....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 08/20/2008
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

BRILLIANT ..................pro-life should mean pro-life ..............all the way to death
ie ............... from cradle to grave.
anyone who thinks that Life is only in the WOMB can go to hell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 08/20/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 227 fans permalink
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I still don't see any pro-life responses...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 08/20/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 281 fans permalink
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No law has been written, but all discussion along those lines is to penalize the doctor only.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 08/21/2008
- ebethgay I'm a Fan of ebethgay 5 fans permalink

I'm wondering why these people claiming infanicide haven't heard that Senator Obama wants to eliminate abortion on the front end - by reducing unwanted pregnancies? Since President Bush's anti-abortion policies haven't come to fruition in bringing fewer abortions, why would McCain's view that life begins at conception, period, bring any different results.

Education and prevention are the keys to eliminating unwanted pregnancies. Helping mothers who otherwise couldn't afford children is another way to prevent abortion. I believe that abortion shouldn't be federally funded and should be limited to dire medical circumstances after the first trimester, but I also believe that the morning after pill eliminates a zygote, not an embryo and certainly not a fetus.

There is middle ground on this issue. Help women (including teens) who don't want to get pregnant to not get pregnant. As long as there are hormones, there is going to be teen sex. Let's help our children realize that birth control is a better option that the difficult choice of terminating a pregnancy. Let's provide our poor women with free birth control instead of free abortions. Let's be proactive about the issue instead of reactive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 08/20/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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Your comment is well reasoned, carefully thought out and eminently sensible.

That's what's wrong with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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They HAVE heard but prefer to play like they haven't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 08/20/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 68 fans permalink
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One of the problems with not federally funding abortions is that the wealthy will be able to afford them but not poor women who may be on medical assistance (welfare/Medicade).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 08/20/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 281 fans permalink
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Abortion rates have been dropping for years from their highs in the early 90's.

It is mostly due to demographics, not policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 08/21/2008
- Guynemer I'm a Fan of Guynemer 6 fans permalink
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Obama's surrogates are getting eating alive on all the network news channels trying to defend this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 08/20/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 7 fans permalink

Obama should give a public speech in LAYMANS language concerning ALL of the 'smears' false or half truth.He should be able to buy enough air time to do so .Every day the Mcain supporters come up with another misworded ,misunderstood ,misquoted bunch of hogwash. This election has turned into a RELIGIOUS war between the parties,every athiest,anti-christian and anti-jewish group will probably step up now and really stir up the stink pot .This has gotten really out of hand ,IT'S ABOUT THE ECONOMY ,ENDING A WAR and JOBS ,NOT religion,or evangelics getting free air time to control more desperate peoples minds ! Where the devil are the REAL INDEPENDANTS ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 08/20/2008
- vonny I'm a Fan of vonny 2 fans permalink

WE voted for Hillary.. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 08/20/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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So?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 08/20/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 61 fans permalink

He DOES speak in layman's language. No big words. He just has a hard time getting to the point and making a clear, specific, precise and effective statement that doesn't need further explanation by his supporters and surrogates. However, his supporters run wild with clear statements by his opponents and interpret them in the most ridiculous ways. Remember when Hillary said it took LBJ took get civil rights legislation through a reluctant Congress. Well, Obama folks made all kinds of accusations and trashed her for that accurate statement. They are hypocrites all the way to the bone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/21/2008
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I have no problem following what Obama says...He does get to the point - apparently Americans have alarmingly short attention spans. I often think Obama talks this way on purpose,because I always find myself stopping and actually LISTENING to what he says.The reason he doesn't blorp out answers like McYuk is because he fully explains his positions and makes sure to let you know all the angles.
I'm tired of Sound Bite Politics.You're thinking about Bush,who I think was the only US president that needed an interpreter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 08/21/2008
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