Experts: Obama-Ayers Ad May Be Illegal

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First Posted: 08-21-08 07:12 PM   |   Updated: 09-21-08 05:12 AM

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A new ad raising Barack Obama's ties to 60s-era radical William Ayers may violate election law, according to campaign finance experts interviewed by the Huffington Post.

The spot, released by the America Issues Project (an incorporated 501c(4) committee, according to a report by Politico's Ben Smith), intersperses images of Obama and Ayers, and features a narrator asking, "Why would Barack Obama be friends with someone who bombed the Capitol and is proud of it? Do you know enough to elect Barack Obama?"

"This negative campaign ad is clearly express advocacy, and under a federal law passed in 2003, the Bi-Partisan Campaign Reform Act (known colloquially as McCain-Feingold), it cannot legally be paid for with corporate money, including those of a non-profit," said Laura MacCleery, deputy director of the democracy program at the Brennan Center for Justice. "The ad indisputably concerns an election, takes a position on the character and fitness for office of a candidate, and raises no legislative issue. Even this highly skeptical Supreme Court would turn up its noses at the foul odor emitted by this clear abuse of federal election law."

For its part, a Fox News representative told the Associated Press that the network had rejected the spot.

The zone of jurisprudence occupied by the ad is undoubtedly a complex one -- intersecting with both tax law as well as state regulations and federal election law. But the spot could certainly fall afoul of the "express advocacy" prohibition that flows from recent Supreme Court campaign finance decisions, including the recent FEC v. Wisconsin Right To Life case. At a minimum, the nature of the committee's funding -- whether it comes from corporations or individuals -- could be a matter for the FEC to probe.

MacCleery noted that in FEC v. WRTL, the Roberts-led Supreme Court wrote that an independent expenditure ad is "the functional equivalent of express advocacy" when it is "susceptible of no reasonable interpretation other than as an appeal to vote for or against a specific candidate."

Furthermore, in describing the types of ads that could avoid normal disclosure requirements, the court laid out several other standards for non-disclosure:

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"The ads focus on a legislative issue, take a position on the issue, exhort the public to adopt that position, and urge the public to contact public officials with respect to the matter. Second, their content lacks indicia of express advocacy. The ads do not mention an election, candidacy, political party, or challenger; and they do not take a position on a candidate's character, qualifications, or fitness for office."

The Ayers ad mentions Obama's name, uses the word "elect" (in the form of a question), and mentions not a single legislative issue, and quite obviously takes a position on his character and fitness for office. Thus, if an incorporated 501c(4) produced the ad and paid for its broadcast with corporate funds, it should be filing FEC disclosure reports.

For its part, the Obama campaign notes that a former McCain aide is now leading the group, and is suggesting an illegal coordination between an independent group and the Arizonan's campaign. But while the evidence for that claim is circumstantial (and refuted by McCain), the notion of whether the independent group's fundraising and activity are legal is another matter entirely. While the group might claim to be what's referred to as an MCFL-501c(4), which would not prevent their broadcasting the ad, it's not clear that the group could avoid disclosing its donor rolls, either.

The only problem, from Obama's point of view, is that the wheels of justice on FEC matters grind slowly. Former FEC lawyer Larry Noble agreed that while this ad would make "an excellent case" for any aggrieved party to bring, the FEC would likely be powerless to get to the bottom of the issue until after the election.

"Clearly there's a question of whether it's reportable as election communication," Noble said. "Beyond that, there's a question about how it's funded, if it's corporately funded. ... But the FEC doesn't have the ability to immediately go into court as a practical matter."

The America Issues Project did not immediately return phone calls or emails from multiple Huffington Post reporters regarding the nature of its 501c(4) status or its stance on FEC electioneering rules. Broadcast commercials that mention a federal candidate's name during certain time periods are considered electioneering. One of the time periods is 30 days before the party conventions, which encompasses the time this ad is running.

From the FEC's website:

Electioneering Communications

An electioneering communication is any broadcast, cable or satellite communication that fulfills each of the following conditions:

1. The communication refers to a clearly identified candidate for federal office;
2. The communication is publicly distributed shortly before an election for the office that candidate is seeking; and
3. The communication is targeted to the relevant electorate (U.S. House and Senate candidates only).

Clearly Identified Candidate

A communication refers to a clearly identified federal candidate if it contains the candidate's name, nickname or image, or makes any unambiguous reference to the person or their status as a candidate, such as "the Democratic candidate for Senate." 11 CFR 100.29(b)(2).

Publicly Distributed Shortly Before Election

Generally, a communication is publicly distributed if it is disseminated for a fee by a television station, radio station, cable television system or satellite system. 11 CFR 100.29(b)(3)(i). Electioneering communications are limited to paid programming. The station is not required to seek or receive payment for distribution of the communication to qualify. Therefore, public service announcements, infomercials and commercials are all included within the definition.

The electioneering communications rules apply only to communications that are transmitted within 60 days prior to a general election or 30 days prior to a primary election for the federal office sought by the candidate, including elections in which the candidate is unopposed. A "primary election" includes any caucus or convention of a political party which has the authority to nominate a candidate to federal office. 11 CFR 100.29(a)(2). This condition regarding the timing of the communication applies only to elections in which the candidate referred to is seeking office.

LATE UPDATE: In response to a detailed series of questions related to electioneering and FEC filing status, the American Issues Project issued a terse email reply to the Huffington Post.

"Yes sir. We filed with FEC," wrote spokesperson Christian Pinkston.

As of Thursday night, there was no filing for the group on the FEC's website (which can take some time to reflect newly received reports). Still unclear is the extent of the independent group's disclosure -- specifically, whether it will simply reveal the aggregate receipts and expenditures, or whether it will reveal individual donors for the $2.8 million ad buy.

UPDATED BELOW A new ad raising Barack Obama's ties to 60s-era radical William Ayers may violate election law, according to campaign finance experts interviewed by the Huffington Post. The spot, rel...
UPDATED BELOW A new ad raising Barack Obama's ties to 60s-era radical William Ayers may violate election law, according to campaign finance experts interviewed by the Huffington Post. The spot, rel...
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What is really sad, is that nobody in the media or elsewhere, has the b*lls to tie McCain personally to the people that advocate for the US to dominate the world's resources and finances, and pushed to attack Iraq and now push for war anywhere. They are in the Bush administration, on McC's campaign committee, on MSM and cable news as talking head pundits. They are the members of the PNAC, (Project for the New American Century). If you would just Google PNAC you can find the membership list and their goals and plans. When you see who they are and realize that they are the major talking heads supporting McC. These people are responsible for more deaths than 100 Prof. Ayers, But - who cares, right?? When I've listed their names, the posts gets rejected, so YOU have to Google.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 08/22/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Why do you think GW was selected once and questionably elected twice ... the audience is voluntarily ignorant!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 08/22/2008
- Hedonist88 I'm a Fan of Hedonist88 14 fans permalink

Americans stand up to this stupid and silly attempts to twist the trust. These people assume most of us are mindless morons who will fall for their concorted 30 second sound bites.

The time will come all these crooks and their backers will be thrown behind bars to languish there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 08/22/2008
- 1099 I'm a Fan of 1099 6 fans permalink

Both sides twist the truth. It's called politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 08/22/2008
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Unfortunately, I doubt that time will come as you hope for. I've been waiting for forty years and not only has the time not come - things have gotten worse. If not worse, then certainly no better. I was a young adult when the Weathermen were active. While I didn't necessarily agree with their call for revolution and their violent tactics - I certainly did sympathize with their cause. For those too young to remember Vietnam you are surely aware of the upheaval it caused throughout our society. The thing that can never be conveyed by a documentary film is the amazing weight of the frustration for those who sought to end that needless war. What Ayers did can be described in one or two sentences. The reasons he did it can't really be described at all. You had to be there. The point is, nothing has really changed in all these years. Bush has conducted the war in Iraq with the same disregard for the views of the American people that LBJ and Nixon did while "pursuing victory" in the late sixties and early seventies. LBJ even famously pounded his fist on his desk and said, "God damn-it, I'm not going to be the first American President to loose a war!" Now isn't that a good reason to send thousands of our kinsmen off to die? The presidents ego! What has changed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 08/22/2008
- Missmn I'm a Fan of Missmn 2 fans permalink

Is anyone surprised? Since when have Republicans cared about legality?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 08/22/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Rethugs dont give a hoot about the American people ordinary American people struggling American people. Its not the fact that John McCain cant remember how many houses he own that is damaging its the fact that his policies FAVOR the wealthy. Even if Obama is an elitist at least he has policies that favor the bulk of Americans. When are we going to open up our eyes and see the more tax beaks you give corportion the more they HORDE money and pocket it until they forget how many houses they own it does not benefit the middle class. Its a fallacy that they have been shoving down our throats for years trickle down economics its a MYTH a LIE. If it trickle down by the time it gets to middle class folks its piss its piss thats trickling down on them not opportunites. Bottom up economies work if it wasnt for FDR where the heck do you think this country would be now. He brought us things like unemployment insurance, healthcare through employers, social security. It took a democrat to save the free market from COLLAPSING and its on the verge of doing the same thing again. Rethugs idea of capitalism encourages GREED and Coporate welfare in the form of BAILOUTS

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 08/22/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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It is incredible that this old ambitious man cannot remember how many homes he has. No wonder Cindy has been following around like a glue at his campaign stumps just to whisper in his ears when he is derailing as usual. We cannot afford a president who will forget his way to to Oval Office when that red phone rings.
Tell me also that it is Cindy that is marrying McCain and not the other way round if we give him the benefit of a doubt that he does not know how many properties his "wife" has. McCain needs to be served a bed pan on a regular basis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 08/22/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Obama is not wasting good time on countering an Ayers ad attack ... good!! Since Mc has no place to hide anymore the campaign that he does not speak for kneejerks to a very interesting topic for ReThugs .... more questions than answers in their use of Ayers ... such as, why Ayers as the "terrorist" they claim him to be is not incarcerated for life (at least) in some federal penal institution ... why is Ayers an active member of society ... a tax-paying free american? Why was Ayers not tried, convicted and put to death as was another home grown terrorist ... Tim McVeigh?

Any Mc answers to those observations???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 08/22/2008
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This tactic is not going to work, trying to say this ad is illegal is meaningless and a waste of time.

We all remember the Watergate break-in and how the dems were screaming about it but no one was paying attention until a year after the election.

Just fight back and stop whining about unfair illegal ads, lets put the republicans on the defensive for a change, they have a tremendous amount of baggage and a lot to be accountable for, like lying the country into a war and ruining our economy for starters.

Obama/Clark

For a return to sanity in government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 08/22/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Hello, is anyone forgetting McCain and the Keating-4? What goes around comes around. McCain is an ADULTERER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 08/22/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

And a more recent LIAR in "a" house of God!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 08/22/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

McC and John Glenn were cleared on that. I don't know how all of you people missed that.

Adulterer? Evidently as were many of our Presidents (to just name 2, FDR, Kennedy). You think that is equivalent to bombing public buildings where innocent people are? That's plain weird.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 08/22/2008
- WoodyIV I'm a Fan of WoodyIV 5 fans permalink

Just as you say McCain was cleared on the keating 5, I believe Ayers was never convicted either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 08/22/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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That you committed an atrocity in 1805 does not minimize the fact that you you are still a crook in 2008. Cleared? The political clearance based on family connections? Gimme a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 08/22/2008
- 2bad I'm a Fan of 2bad 16 fans permalink
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Cleared you say? Not exactly! If he did nothing wrong, why did he return 10s of thousands of dollars in contributions? Why was he pressuring the FCC to help the people who made those contributions(along with the other Dems involved)? He may not have been 'charged' with wrong doing but he came away with a cloud of stink that lasts until today! The American people may not know everything about Obama but McBush has one hellofalot more to answer for regarding his past than does Barack Obama! Why does he skirt these questions? He whips-out the POW card and says 'can't touch this' and gets a free pass. BS!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 08/22/2008

No political speech is ever be illegal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 08/22/2008

well talk to Feingold and MCCAIN about it. It's their names on the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 08/22/2008

A travesty and violation of the US Constitution. One day, these illegal restrictions will greatly curtail political speech and facilitate a political tragedy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 08/22/2008

Why would a self confessed terrorist still be walking the streets of America and holding down prestigeous jobs. Sounds very much like the mad anthrax scientist who held his job with the Americian government till the day he died.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 08/22/2008

Not sure who you are referencing when you say "self confessed terrorist" but if you are referring to the Good Professor Ayers he was not a terrorist. Look him up. See for yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 08/22/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Uh, yeah, he was. Terrorism: the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes. Terrorist: one who advocates terrorism.

He admitted to participating in bombings and said he was sorry they didn't do more.

What don't you get?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 08/22/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Mr. Ayers have MORE integrity than McCain will EVER dream of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 08/22/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

You have no clue what you are talking about, do you? Ask your history teacher today about the Weathermen and Ayers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 08/22/2008
- judyc I'm a Fan of judyc 122 fans permalink
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Ayers questionable activities took place when Obama was 8 years old and living in Indonesia. Also, if you know anything about the 60's, it was a very turbulent, crazy time in our history with the citizenry out of their minds about the travesty that was Vietnam.

When they met he was an upstanding citizen and teaching at a prestigious university.

Do you have ant friends who partook in any activities in their youth that may fall under the category of "questionable"? Do you have any friends with which you have philosophical differences or do you not associate with anyone whose views differ from yours? And, again, if his activities were so horrendous, why was he never incarcerated?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 08/22/2008
- vsign I'm a Fan of vsign 34 fans permalink

Obviously, Obama doesn't want any questions raised about his relationship with Ayers. After the ABC debate, where he was asked about Ayers repeatedly, he was so upset he brushed the episode off his shoulders and indicated the finger on his cheek as his response - to being even asked about Ayers.

The Thin Man is such a comedian.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 08/22/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 186 fans permalink
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You really do not know what you are "talking" about...............

The long list of Republican supporters and friends of Professor Ayers, who is
known for his high standards in Early Childhood Education, will make a very impressive article.

Looking forward to reading it.

This is "my backyard" and you don't know the neighborhood, so to speak.

My hope is the idiots staffing McBush's Campaign will move forward on this very issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 08/22/2008

and there you have it Voter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 08/22/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

To maintain foolish and deceived masses is precisely how republicans enjoy "leadership" ... how else can they let them eat cake or after 7 + yrs crumbs!!??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 08/22/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Do you really have any sense left in your coconut skull?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 08/22/2008

So it's guilt by association huh...how very Joe McCarthy and the Committee of people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 08/22/2008
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Obviously the McCain camp can't run on issues so they have to run a gossip column. If they want to go on gossip I would be more interested in Ralph Reed big fund raiser for McCain with Abramhoff connections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 08/22/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Yeah, you know, for the Republicans and their brood of vipers, when you are running empty on ideas and issues, bang the empty barrels as much as you can.

Ironically, they still enjoy the follower-ship of a lot of INBREDS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 08/22/2008
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I cant imagine how hideous and illegal something would have to be to have Fox shy away from it!! In the misty far distant future when I finish downloading it over my dial up, I guess I will find out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 AM on 08/22/2008

they shied away because they know this Ayers issue is a blatant proven lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 08/22/2008
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Clearly the FEC needs to be given the ability to do its job in a more efficient and timely manner. That would discourage bovine excrement like this ad from seeing the light of day.

BEHusseinM777

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 08/22/2008

How many future homegrown terrorists are being taught on a daily basis by Mr. Ayers and his wife in Chicago and at Northwestern University? Hmm, if this was such a big deal why allow them to have such an influence on America's next generation. Who certifies their teaching credentials?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 AM on 08/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 264 fans permalink
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good point, but you should see some of the people that are teaching in UK universities, even at Oxford, they promote radical islam openly...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 08/22/2008

I disagree with you.

The people who promote RADICAL Islam openly in UK are either under house arrest or in detention and banned from public gatherings. Abu Hamza is an example.

If they are free and carry on with their public duties,then ur Radical Islam connotation does not apply to them.

Yes,u have many Oxford and Cambridge professors who are anti Capitalism but that doesnt make them Radical Islam's promoters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 08/22/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 186 fans permalink
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My niece was a student of Professor Ayers while studying for
her Master Degree in Early Childhood Education.

As a student, she had no idea about his past but instead knew him as one of
the BEST teachers she had ever encountered.

For over 30 years, Professor Ayers has lived an exemplary life in Chicago.

During this time, he has found many supporters, including well-known Republicans,
so if John McBush's staffers wish to make "something of nothing" they will find many of their own included.

Who is running McBush's campaign?
Idiots who condemn Obama for visiting his Grandmother and sister.
Idiots who wish to take on the well respected highly Republican, Northern Trust Bank for Mr. and Mrs. Obama's mortgage.

One can only look at Candidate McBush and his staff and say, "Duh! Huh?"
And add, "Not this time, you Republican Creeps!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 08/22/2008
- DaOne I'm a Fan of DaOne 45 fans permalink
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How many future terrorists are being created abroad on a daily basis by McBush advocacy of our current foreign policy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 08/22/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 186 fans permalink
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Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands...............................

All Part of the Bush Legacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 08/22/2008
- judyc I'm a Fan of judyc 122 fans permalink
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Well said, DaOne!! And in so few words!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 08/22/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Your son is one of them obviously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 08/22/2008

because it is a lie MorningJoeCheeto. But it sounds good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 08/22/2008
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Poor Democrats. keep playing nice and lose.

McCain has more baggage than any politician in our whole History, why don't you show that to the people?

He wasn't qualified to be a Senator, now he wants to be POTUS. Being a POW erases all sins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 08/22/2008
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