Obamanomics: Obama Explains His Economic Ideology

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NY Times   |   August 21, 2008 02:06 PM



As Barack Obama prepares to accept the Democratic nomination this week, it is clear that the economic policies of the next president are going to be hugely important. Ever since Wall Street bankers were called back from their vacations last summer to deal with the convulsions in the mortgage market, the economy has been lurching from one crisis to the next. The International Monetary Fund has described the situation as "the largest financial shock since the Great Depression." The details are too technical for most of us to understand. (They're too technical for many bankers to understand, which is part of the problem.) But the root cause is simple enough. In some fundamental ways, the American economy has stopped working.

The fact that the economy grows -- that it produces more goods and services one year than it did in the previous one -- no longer ensures that most families will benefit from its growth. For the first time on record, an economic expansion seems to have ended without family income having risen substantially. Most families are still making less, after accounting for inflation, than they were in 2000. For these workers, roughly the bottom 60 percent of the income ladder, economic growth has become a theoretical concept rather than the wellspring of better medical care, a new car, a nicer house -- a better life than their parents had.

Americans have still been buying such things, but they have been doing so with debt. A big chunk of that debt will never be repaid, which is the most basic explanation for the financial crisis. Even after the crisis has passed, the larger problem of income stagnation will remain. It's hardly the economy's only serious problem either. There is also the slow unraveling of the employer-based health-insurance system and the fact that, come 2011, the baby boomers will start to turn 65, setting off an enormous rise in the government's Medicare and Social Security obligations.

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As Barack Obama prepares to accept the Democratic nomination this week, it is clear that the economic policies of the next president are going to be hugely important. Ever since Wall Street bankers we...
As Barack Obama prepares to accept the Democratic nomination this week, it is clear that the economic policies of the next president are going to be hugely important. Ever since Wall Street bankers we...
 
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What we need are higher taxes on the rich, on corporations and more government spending (borrowing), especially on infrastructure projects. Just like his comments on China's infrastructure being way better than USA's... their ports, railroads, schools, roads.. all vastly superior to USA. Why cannot America do what China has done?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 08/22/2008
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Great, if not lengthy, article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 08/22/2008
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I am comforted that O has the understanding of the economy that he does.
Very good article.

I am not comforted that he could not explain the whole thing so it could be placed on a bumper sticker.
Americans do not do thinking very well.
That is why they think McCain and his crony capitalist buddy, Phil Gramm, would do a better job on the economy that O.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 08/22/2008
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This was music to my ears, I wanted to know how he works and from ideas and this gives us an idea. He is talking to "experts" and he is studying all points of views, this was nice to read. I want to know this guys got a brain that ticks and ticks a lot, and one that we all knows has a very high IQ. Sweet!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 08/22/2008

This is the most information I've been able to find about Obama and his economic policies. Frankly, it concerned me early on when I learned of his association with Chicago University as I was just finishing Shock Doctrine at the time. I think that this country needs for the next President to be more progressive in his economic policies than Obama seems to be. We'll never get our health care system to actually do what its name implies as long as we've got companies involved in it whose sole reason for existence is to make a profit, something mutually exclusive to providing health care. That Obama thinks Reagan had any good ideas with respect to economics is appalling. Didn't Clinton get lambasted for saying that he had said that? And, now, we find he really did? Our trade problems are not going to be resolved with anything short of going back to tariffs to protect some of our industries. I am beginning to develop a picture of Obama as another DLC type and that is not what he's selling himself as.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 08/21/2008
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Better than McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 08/22/2008

We keep saying this, but frankly I'm no longer sure how much better. And, that I think is why he's not doing as well in the polls than anybody running against this administration and this Republican candidate. And, no, I'm not some hold-out Sen. Clinton supporter, just someone that's been voting and supporting the Democratic Party since the 60's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 08/24/2008

You're right. It's troubling, T e x a n n a.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 08/22/2008
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"Our trade problems are not going to be resolved with anything short of going back to tariffs to protect some of our industries."

The three largest exporters in the world are:
#3 - USA - large country. Lots of Natural resources.

#2 China - largest country in the world. Cheap labor.

#1 Germany. Largest exporter in the world. Socialist, 5 weeks of paid vacation, small, limited natural resources, socialist healthcare, Germany.

Why is that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 08/22/2008

Germany is not Socialist. Anyone can own property or start a business.

There's a difference between Socialism and Social Welfare programs.

If you took out weapons from US exports we would drop really far.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 AM on 08/22/2008

Obama 08!!!!!

Dang, McC is imploding.... he brought out his hit cards too early in the game.....

and guess what!?!?!?!?!

WE DON"T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have one or ZERO houses and you really give a rat's arse about us?

Nah.. Don't think so.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 08/21/2008
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That is all the Obamassiah is ... Ideology and mostly flawed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 08/21/2008

If you read the article, you would discover that the main point is that it's sometimes hard to find any discernible ideology behind the pragmatism of his policy positions, and that's why it has been tough for him to sell his economic agenda politically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 08/21/2008
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Versus, say, 30 years of demonstrated GOP failure?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 08/22/2008

It will take a new, New Deal to save the banks and assist the homeowners. The article was a good review but as stated, no populist has ever won the presidential election since God knows when and the "experts" say that the plan would never work - whatever plan that might be. Robert Rubin and his progeny are to me on the same page as Milton Friedman. Robert Reich is a great guy and a hell of an economist in his own right. Larry Summers has a past as a neoliberal with privatization and manipulating the Mexican currency with through NAFTA with Bill Clinton and Alan Greenspan.

I fear that Obama would be pushed around by financial interests on Wall Street, especially banking and investment banking. McCain would flip banks to private equity through Phil Gramm and Company and eliminate all regulation. Obama needs to take on the Fed and the central bankers and money interests in Europe. Foreigners own a majority of the stock in the Fed. Money is only paper backed up with a military protection "oil-machine." Challenging that machine would be change we can believe in.

I'm from Missouri - show me and then I'll believe. So far, there's too little, too late to be deciding where you stand on the economic spectrum. My God, the man is running for president. Neither he nor McCain know the first thing about economics. Too many chiefs spoil the brew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 08/21/2008

Are you kidding me? Assist homeowners?

What about the people that did it right? Saved money, put a downpayment on a house and actually looked into what they are signing.

Reward failure, punish success . . . what a terrible message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 08/21/2008
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Reward inherited wealth, punish work. That's what we're doing now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 08/22/2008
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As opposed to the GOP philosophy:
Socialize costs. Privatize profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 08/22/2008
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Reward failure, punish success.

Like the CEO of Countrywide, like the executives of Enron, except for Fastow and Ken Lay, like all the executives of Global Crossing, World Com EXCEPT the CEO's.

Oh yeah, like the CEOs were the only ones involved in scamming the public and the only ones making huge profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 08/22/2008

And the next time someone takes a turn too fast, and wraps themselves around a tree, we should just ignore it.

Wow! you understood your little morgtage better than someone else.

You're an American Hero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 08/22/2008

If you turn down the tv or radio and read to the end this was really a outstanding artical. Not so much of Obama or McCain policies but because of the history of our economy and how it has and has not worked...and how bipartisan a issue this is. Not so much in congress but in the world. I think he looked deep into this issue and fount was was missing it will take a village to raise the WORLD. It use to be to save a child but now everyone needs to be saved one way or another.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 08/21/2008

Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people "cling" to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who"s in touch with regular Americans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 08/21/2008
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Way to cut and paste!!! Yaa douc...I mean bouch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 08/21/2008

You're just supposed to drink the cool aid, not bathe in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 08/21/2008
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yes! Yes! YES!!!! It ties in to the economy in so many ways... Does a guy who think 5mil qualifies one to be rich really want to get into a debate about who is in touch with regular Americans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 08/21/2008

Considering Obama made 10 times what McCain did last year, kind of funny how 2 rich guys are compaining how rich the other is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 08/21/2008
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I was in Hawaii when Obama was there. The press reported the beaches he went to, and they were public beaches. I grew up there. I know. So you are just lying.

As for making $4 mil, geez, that is less than what McCain pays in taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 08/22/2008

Ok, you proved that you can either cut & paste or type McCain campaign statements word-for-word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 08/22/2008
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It's good to see the Times get on board with a lengthy, detailed piece in support of the Obama vision for economic prosperity. The Times has always been a valuable team player but its consistent support rarely receives the appreciation it deserves. Kudos to Pinch and his crew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 08/21/2008

A very thoughtful piece, well researched and written, much like Obama's economic policy. Too bad it's lost on the vast majority of American voters whom I have come to believe are complete idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 08/21/2008
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Indeed. Americans are uncouth, unwashed, and unworthy of the intellectual leadership of the One.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 08/21/2008
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When too many jobs are shipped overseas then the unemployment level reaches the point where the gov has to pay those unemployed around half of what they had made while working. This means basic and less for the unemployed for a limited time period when looking for the jobs that are now overseas. We have massive debt beyond any ever had before while Bush and Congress have spent like drunkards expecting a miracle with no hangover. Bushes liar war has cost the most as not only have we sent bushels of money that was "lost' in Iraq, we have paid for "peace" to the cheiftans and Al sadr. We have spent far too much on the no bids to KBR and Blackwater. The pentagon hasn't been even close to watching a budget while spending drunk too. The medical care and mental health care of those returning has ben substandard but boy are we paying for it in a broken down system. But the troops are paying too high a price with their lives too. Suicide prevention should have started when first deployed and never stopped.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 08/21/2008
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Economic idiology......let me be clear on this.

IT"S THE TAXES STUPID!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 08/21/2008

It's what you DON"T get for the taxes, stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 08/22/2008

He better gets his Game together as concerns Economy. He is already losing on this issue.LATEST REUTERS/ZOGBY POLL on who is better for the Economy:
JMc now has a 9-point edge, 49 percent to 40 percent, over O' on the critical question of who would be the best manager of the economy -- an issue nearly half of voters said was their top concern in the November 4 presidential election.

That margin reversed O's 4-point edge last month on the economy over JMc, an Arizona senator and former Vietnam prisoner of war who has admitted a lack of economic expertise and shows far greater interest in foreign and military policy. O is consistently losing on all important issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 08/21/2008
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Unfortunately, Americans only understand economic policy that can fit on a bumper sticker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 08/22/2008
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