Bodies identified from plane crash in Spain

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PAUL HAVEN | August 21, 2008 03:58 PM EST | AP

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MADRID, Spain — A gauge indicating that overheated air was entering a Spanair jetliner forced pilots to abandon a takeoff about an hour before the plane crashed in flames, but airline officials refused to speculate Thursday on the cause of the accident that killed 153 people.

As investigators tried to piece together what happened, relatives crushed by grief went to a makeshift morgue to identify loved ones. Officials said many of the bodies were burned beyond recognition.

One survivor told of the heaving, hellish final minutes of the MD-82's flight, saying she feared she was going to die.

"The plane was rocking back and forth, until I suspected it was going to fall," Ligia Palomino, a 41-year-old emergency rescue worker who happened to be on board, told Spain's Cadena Ser radio station. "I saw people, smoke, explosions. I think that is what woke me up because I had lost consciousness."

"I thought that if help did not arrive soon I would die," said Palomino, who suffered leg injuries and a broken rib.

Video footage of the scene broadcast by Spanish national television TVE showed wreckage strewn across a wide area, with white plastic covering what appeared to be victims' remains.

Many of the victims in Wednesday's flight were families traveling to the Canary Islands, a Spanish beach resort off Africa's West Coast. Compounding the tragedy was news that at least 22 of those on board were children, including two infants. Only three youngsters were believed to be among the 19 survivors.

Development Minister Magdalena Alvarez said 39 bodies have been identified, and that the process could take days because forensic teams were using DNA to help make identifications.

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Some mourners spent the night at the morgue, set up at Madrid's main convention center _ the same facility used for bodies after the March 11, 2004 Islamic terror attacks that killed 191 people on Madrid commuter trains.

Amid the horror were several stories of hope, and others of sheer luck.

The three children who survived _ boys aged 6 and 8, and an 11-year-old girl _ all suffered relatively minor injuries. The older boy had nothing more than a broken leg, extraordinary considering the devastation at the crash site.

And then there was the Spanish couple who were three minutes late and missed the flight altogether. Ertoma Bolanos said that he and his girlfriend Almudena checked in but did not make it to the gate in time. They learned of the crash when Almudena's family called to say they had seen footage of it on TV.

"Today is another birthday," Bolanos said.

One day after the crash, Spanair gave new information about the plane's initial attempt to take off. Spokesman Javier Mendoza said an air intake gauge under the cockpit had detected overheating while the jetliner was taxiing, causing the plane to turn back. Technicians corrected the problem by essentially turning the gauge off.

Mendoza said the device is not on a checklist of equipment that has to be functional for a plane to depart, and that turning off such a device is an accepted procedure. The plane was eventually cleared by technicians, but crashed on its second attempt to take off, burning and breaking into pieces.

The company said it did not know if the gauge problem had anything to do with the accident, but two aviation experts interviewed by The Associated Press said it was not likely that such a seemingly minor problem could bring down a modern plane.

Alvaro Gammicchia, a pilot for the Spanish airline Iberia who has flown MD-82's for seven years, said that even without the gauge "the plane would not fail to the point of causing a tragedy."

The MD-80 series aircraft have a number of static ports or pitot tubes _ tiny holes _ near the nose of the aircraft, with different functions. They provide data on air speed, air pressure, and outside temperature to the cockpit instruments. If the pitot tube or the static ports were somehow physically blocked, cockpit instruments like the airspeed and climb indicators would be unable to function because they would not be receiving outside data.

In contrast, probes for the engine instruments are located around the engines themselves.

Patrick Smith, a U.S.-based MD-80 pilot and aviation author, said by telephone that the gauge _ also known as a probe _ was not likely to have been involved.

"Most likely, whatever the malfunction of the probe was, it is probably not related to what happened," he said by telephone.

As investigators headed for the crash scene _ including a team from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board and representatives of airplane manufacturer Boeing _ attention was also focusing on the plane's two black box recorders, which might provide further clues into the accident. Mendoza, the Spanair spokesman, said both had been recovered, and one had been damaged.

The Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that one of the two engines failed and may have caught fire during takeoff. La Vanguardia said witnesses saw the plane's left engine explode and catch fire before the aircraft went down.

The government on Thursday released a list of the nationalities of 19 foreigners from at least 11 countries who were on the plane. Of the 19, only one survived, a Swedish citizen.

The other 10 countries are: Germany with 5 citizens among the dead, France with 2, and one each from Mauritania, Turkey, Brazil, Indonesia, Bulgaria, Italy, Colombia and Gambia. The nationalities of three other foreign victims had yet to determined. The list did not name the foreigners.

As the shock of the tragedy began to sink in, Spain began three days of mourning Thursday. Flags in Madrid flew at half-staff and silent vigils were held at noon around the country. The king and queen visited the morgue, consoling relatives of those who died.

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Associated Press writers Harold Heckle and Jorge Sainz in Madrid and Slobodan Lekic in Brussels contributed to this report.

MADRID, Spain — A gauge indicating that overheated air was entering a Spanair jetliner forced pilots to abandon a takeoff about an hour before the plane crashed in flames, but airline officials ...
MADRID, Spain — A gauge indicating that overheated air was entering a Spanair jetliner forced pilots to abandon a takeoff about an hour before the plane crashed in flames, but airline officials ...
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- CalliDem I'm a Fan of CalliDem 8 fans permalink

How very sad. You and all the families are in our hearts and prayers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 08/21/2008
- Robert59 I'm a Fan of Robert59 10 fans permalink

Since we're hypothesizing I'll add my theory.

That temperature gauge was working correctly. It was giving them a clue most would miss. The maintenance personnel and the pilots didn't put two and two together. If the gauge is working correctly what would cause it to read so high?

Could it have been a bleed air leak. Hot air from the engines is used for a great many things. That air is hot enough to cut through a plane's skin like a hot knife through butter. Could it have also cut a fuel line? Could it have cut an oxygen line?

I wonder where the temperature probe was located and if someone had taken a closer look and not assumed the gauge was in error they would have prevented a disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 08/21/2008
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 252 fans permalink
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I think your theory is a good one. Why do people think turning off a warning indicator is a viable standard procedure? Didn't somebody engineer it for a purpose?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 08/21/2008
- Robert59 I'm a Fan of Robert59 10 fans permalink

I don't know if it was a warning gauge or merely a gauge that recorded outside air temperature. We use the temperature to calculate aircraft performance. He noticed it was way high compared to either another gauge or what ATIS was broadcasting.

What they concluded was the gauge failed when it indicated a very high temperature. When they fail the needle usually doesn't move or drops to the lowest setting. It's unfortunate they didn't look further.

If it was a bleed air leak there would be differences in the gauges between the two indications that could have clued them into something being wrong, but they didn't notice them.

Years ago we had a C-130 piloted by a very experienced crew who never put high fuel flow and a decreasing inlet temperature together. What they didn't realize is the turbine housing was slowly failing; as it did the thermocouples begain to fail one by one. The inlet temperature dropped, the fuel flow increased, until the housing blew apart, and the right wing came off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 08/22/2008
- Rubyfoo I'm a Fan of Rubyfoo 7 fans permalink

If the MD-80 pilot and author assumed that the abnormal guage reading was a "guage malfunction," then what's the purpose of having the guage and why assume that the guage malfunctions. Sounds weird to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 08/21/2008

March 11, 2004 Madrid attacks, as the perpetrators themselves admitted, were in large part a response to the invasion and occupation of Iraq (and Afghanistan). It's terror alright, but is it necessarily "Islamic" terror? Does this qualification also apply to dissent? If one opposes the invasion and occupation of predominantly Muslim countries, does it make one an "Islamic" dissenter? Or does one have to be of Islamic origin to earn this label?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 08/21/2008
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

One-Engined commercial Aircrafts should be banned.
If they were safe once, they're not now because they're getting too old.
Get them out of service.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 08/21/2008
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 252 fans permalink
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The MD-82 has two engines. According to this story, "The Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that one of the two engines failed and may have caught fire during takeoff. La Vanguardia said witnesses saw the plane's left engine explode and catch fire before the aircraft went down." I'm sure the pilot had the right engine at maximum, but this was the worst moment for such an event to occur; the aircraft was trying to assend from ground level and build speed with a full load of fuel. And because the engine exploded, there's no telling what damage was inflicted to stabilizers and controls by shrapnel; the fact that the plane seems to have veered right although the left engine was destroyed is a bit suspect.

A similar accident happened to the Concord, apparently cause by debris being sucked into an engine. And the results were, unfortunately, very similar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 08/21/2008
- DebofMD I'm a Fan of DebofMD 16 fans permalink
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This is really sad; my thoughts and prayers are with the families.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 08/21/2008
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 252 fans permalink
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I absolutely agree. May God through Jesus Christ comfort the families and friends. Who could fully imagine what this horror is like for them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 08/21/2008

Headline: Spanish Plane Crash Caused By Overheated Valve... At Least 153 Killed

In the story: "Two experts interviewed by The Associated Press said the gauge problem was unlikely to have caused the crash."

No valve mentioned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 08/21/2008
- Cybesq I'm a Fan of Cybesq 29 fans permalink
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Seriously! Who writes these Huffpo headlines? Do they read the actual articles?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 08/21/2008
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I'm getting kind of bored of complaining about HuffPo's headlines -- they're so bad it's painful. But the editor in me says to just keep griping in the hope that someday they'll pay attention.

Bad headlines hurt this web site's credibility! And HuffPo headlines are often embarrassingly bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 08/21/2008

I find myself wondering why this article is accompanied by a satellite view of Tropical Storm Fay. They seem to be wrapped up in such a frenzy of sensationalistic and 'clever' graphics and pics for the election wars , that accuracy has gone out the window.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 08/21/2008
- perk I'm a Fan of perk 16 fans permalink

The plane was close to max payload, ambient temperature of 91F and taking off from an airport that is 2,000 ft above sea level. This is probably right at the takeoff limit for an MD-82 with one engine.

An engine failure right at the moment of rotation would have created a situation that would have required an instantaneous reaction by the pilot to correct the yaw caused by one engine failing. It is not possible for a human being to react that quickly. This is possilby the perfect storm of unavoidable events that sealed the fate of this aircraft. Probably unavoidable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 08/21/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 57 fans permalink
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I'm sorry but an engine out at the critical take-off point is the one thing that pilots get maximum training in. Either something else mechanical happened, e.g., wing slats retracted as they did in the Chicago crash where an engine blew right off the wing, or there was pilot error in the way they attempted to recover from the problem.

I'm glad to see that NTSB people have been sent to assist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 08/21/2008

Not true, unless the pilot rotated way below the VR speed provided in the Airplane Flight Manual. I'm sure the accident investigators are investigating the possibility that the flight crew screwed up or there was something very wrong with the airspeed indicators on this particular airplane. Check out rgl.faa.gov, click on "Federal Aviation Regulations" on the right hand side of the page, and search for 25.107(e)(1) and 25.149 to see why your concerns are unfounded. The Certification Basis for the MD-80 is Amendment 0 of 14 CFR 25, but the regulations I've cited haven't changed much over the years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/21/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 353 fans permalink
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Indeed, taking off is the most precarious moment of air travel, where if anything goes wrong during that fateful few minutes, there is little chance of recovery.

My thoughts to those poor souls as they fell to their deaths.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 08/21/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 427 fans permalink
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There's really not much yaw when a plane with tail-mounted engines like MD-80 or 727 loses an engine. It shouldn't have been a problem for a properly trained crew. That's one of the maneuvers you have to demonstrate every year in the simulator to keep your job.

I still don't know what happened here and it will be quite a while before the investigation sorts things out. Some reports say they had an engine fire and ran off the runway while rejecting the takeoff. Others say they took it into the air and then crashed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 08/21/2008
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Awful thing to happen -- my sympathies to the bereaved.

I've written about enough air crashes in my time to know that they are never caused by just one thing. Investigators talk about "event cascades" (series' of minor problems or mistakes that compound one another) that lead to these kinds of catastrophes, and you can be sure that your "overheated valve" alone did not cause this crash -- your home page headline should not say it did. The overheating may have been a symptom of a more serious underlying issue, or it may have had nothing to do with what happened.

Similarly, eyewitnesses almost always say they saw a fire before the crash, or that they saw an engine explode, even when in reality no such thing happened. In fact, it may have happened -- but what I'm saying is that eyewitnesses in events like this are often unreliable. I remember in one particularly unbelievable case a few years back, a newspaper reported witnesses saying they saw the captain of the crashing aircraft leaning out of the cockpit window yelling at people to get out of the way ... You don't have to think too hard about that one to know how impossible it is. It's not that people tell lies, it's that they report often misleading impressions of the event as fact.

Jumping to conclusions when these tragedies happen helps nobody, and can cause unnecessary damage by distracting people from the truth and laying blame where none is due.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 08/21/2008
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