Bush Administration Inks Deal To Withdraw All Combat Forces From Iraq By 2011

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CHARLES BABINGTON | August 22, 2008 03:39 PM EST | AP

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In this March 5, 2008 file photo, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., smiles as he looks towards President Bush in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington. Barack Obama likes to say, "We can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term." Bush's "third term" has become a favorite attack line for Democrats, one repeated almost daily by the candidate and his surrogates. They argue that McCain favors failed Bush administration economic policies and would keep U.S. troops in Iraq for the foreseeable future. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, File)

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain prides himself on being gung-ho about pursuing the Iraq war even if it hurts him politically. Recent events in Baghdad threaten to put him still farther out on a limb, however, as the Bush administration works toward a troop withdrawal schedule that is more aggressive than McCain envisions.

Democrat Barack Obama says a McCain presidency would amount to a third term for President Bush, whose popularity approaches historic lows. If the Baghdad negotiations appear headed to fruition while Iraq remains relatively stable _ big ifs _ some say Obama may be able to push even harder, saying McCain would out-Bush Bush if he had his way.

On the other hand, if Americans believe the war is winding down in an acceptable way, it could significantly reduce the importance of an issue central to Obama's rise to political prominence.

Iraq and the Bush administration have reached a preliminary agreement under which U.S. combat forces would pull out of major Iraqi cities, where most of the fighting has taken place, by next June and leave Iraq by 2011. It would link troop reductions to achievement of certain undisclosed security milestones. The deal also would require the endorsement of top Iraqi leaders and the Iraqi parliament, which is far from certain.

McCain repeatedly has said that events on the ground in Iraq should dictate any pullout schedule. He once suggested, however, that troops would come home, victorious, by the end of his first term, in early 2013.

Obama has set a goal of removing most U.S. combat troops within 16 months of taking office, or by the spring of 2010. He says he would listen to advice from military leaders before deciding.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told reporters Thursday of the draft proposal, but they offered few specifics. It envisions the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq's cities by June 30, 2009, according to Iraqi and American officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposed deal's details have not been made public.

Zebari hinted at the proposal's possible complexity. "This agreement determines the principle provisions, requirements, to regulate the temporary presence and the time horizon, the mission of the U.S. forces," he said.

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Obama said in a statement Friday he was glad the Bush administration "has finally shifted to accepting a timetable for the removal of our combat troops from Iraq." He noted the draft has yet to be finalized, and reserved "final judgment."

He said McCain "has stubbornly focused on maintaining an indefinite U.S presence in Iraq, but events have made his bluster and record increasingly out of touch with reality. While Sen. McCain continues to offer unconditional military and economic support for Iraq, I strongly believe that we need to use our leverage with the Iraqi government to ensure a political settlement."

McCain campaign spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said, "We're monitoring closely and will have something to say when an agreement is finalized."

U.S. political activists seem uncertain how the proposal might affect the Obama-McCain race.

"At this point, Obama looks a little less reckless than he might have a few months ago," said Michael O'Hanlon, a military expert at the Brookings Institution. O'Hanlon, who once backed Obama, has often criticized him for refusing to acknowledge the achievements of the U.S. "surge" in troop numbers and for sticking to his 16-month withdrawal goal even as events in Iraq have changed.

O'Hanlon said the proposed agreement faces substantial political and military hurdles.

Polls suggest most U.S. voters are much more concerned about the economy than the war. The proposed agreement could make Iraq even less of an issue this fall.

Steve Elmendorf, a Washington lobbyist and former Democratic leadership aide in Congress, thinks that is unlikely, however.

"I don't think this gets the issue off the table," he said. "Between now and Election Day, not a lot of troops are going to come home" even if the proposal is enacted.

"Most Americans want this thing to end," Elmendorf said, and McCain "still talks of continued engagement." Many Americans, he said, "will vote for who will get us out."

McCain repeatedly has rebuked Obama on Iraq. Campaigning Wednesday in New Mexico, he said Obama "has made it clear he values withdrawal from Iraq above victory in Iraq."

Two days earlier in Florida, McCain said, "the hard-won gains of our troops hang in the balance. The lasting advantage of a peaceful and democratic ally in the heart of the Middle East could still be squandered by hasty withdrawal and arbitrary timelines."

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ Charles Babington covers politics and Congress for The Associated Press.

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain prides himself on being gung-ho about pursuing the Iraq war even if it hurts him politically. Recent events in Baghdad threaten to put ...
WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain prides himself on being gung-ho about pursuing the Iraq war even if it hurts him politically. Recent events in Baghdad threaten to put ...
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- LOL123 I'm a Fan of LOL123 2 fans permalink

If we get out of Iraq (not all of them) they will be redeployed (in my opinion) up by or in Georgia. The Russians mean to play hard ball and it's still about oil. The US has invested a lot in the hah Deniz gas field which they (US) want a pipeline which runs parallel to the Baku-Ceyhon pipeline (Russia owned). If Russia can derail this they controll the oil to Europe. US has investmens in the Caspian oil and gas development and transportation network which will in my opinion take precidence for awhile. Wait and see if troops move to Georgia for "peace keeping " missions. Then of Course McCain can get on his grandstand and belt out War retoric and the cheers go up in unison.."we won't cut and run".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 08/22/2008
- ejay579 I'm a Fan of ejay579 9 fans permalink
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I love way you indicate the U.S. has invested in this pipe line or that pipe line. The U.S. has not invested squat in these pipelines. U.S. based companies may or may not have invested but the U.S. has not even invested in energy sources in North America let alone in the Caucasus. If U.S. based companies want to secure these areas through military intervention let them hire Blackwater or what ever the hell it is called.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 08/22/2008

gee . . . you mean to imply that American Foreign Policy is dictated by internationalist oil/energy companies? Who'd thunk that George "Oil Man" Bush, Dick "Hallie" Cheney and Condi "Tanker" Rice would have any other motivations other than spreading peace, democracy and flowers throughout those nations stupid enough live on Exxon Oil?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/23/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 22 fans permalink
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No SH*T! America has been bamboozled into one illegal war for American Big Oil. .. once was enough Thank You Very Much! Blackwater doesn't care who they shoot so they ought to be right up Big Oil's alley. Besides its time Big Oil footed the bill for their own dirty little wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 08/23/2008

Ohh, what happened to poor General Horizon, did he just get demoted to Colonel??

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I guess they are resigned to the fact that new management is comming in and is time to start winding down and shutting down the rape, pilage and plunder operations. Time to start burying the bodies and kickstart the shredder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 08/22/2008

It's a good thing General Horizon waited until AFTER the 21st Century G.I. Bill was passed, to leave Eyewack - - - otherwise he would have to settle for the defeated proposed McCain Bill - a firm handshake, xerox copy of rich lonely women, and a hand full of Divorce Lawyer Discount Coupons . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 08/23/2008
- Amennyc I'm a Fan of Amennyc 16 fans permalink
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"since we're getting out of iraq already, there is no need to vote obama.... " thats the part when bushit winks to some anonymous person in the room "watching".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 08/22/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

put the pipe down

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 08/22/2008

Oh come now! You very much know that we still need Barack! Iraq is only ONE of the several problems that plague us because of president Ugly and his dorklings!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 08/22/2008
- mari2JJ I'm a Fan of mari2JJ 37 fans permalink

Don't be silly. If we vote for mcCain he will stop any withdrawal cold. He would rather a bunch more military die in his stupid need to be right, errr stay there for another 50 to a hundred years. There is nothing else for Bush to do but to leave. He is being kicked out and will sign off for us to leave with our tail between our legs. God preserve us from another truly stupid Republican administration. Vote Obama and save our country from another warmongerer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 08/23/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 22 fans permalink
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Like we're going to trust the sinking economy to Phil Gramm...ROFL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 08/23/2008

Reading these news I cannot stop thinking about "Flip Flopper" campaign of 2004.
Wow, who is a flip--flopper now....for the last months and months actually.
Negotiations with Korea, with Iran, ( I guess they were finally OK with appeasing those who are just like Hitler) and now timetable that "surely will let Al-Qaeda know when we will leave". Oh my God - now they now! And from whom, from us! Cut-and-runners! And who is behind it - GW and Dick Cheney! What a bunch of hypocritical garbage that backfires one after another. It just doesn't stop with Reps doesn't it?
Pathetic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 08/22/2008
- Roguewolf I'm a Fan of Roguewolf 36 fans permalink
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wake up we have been negotiating with North Korea for years, President Bush has always said we would begin withdrawl when conditions on the ground warrant it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 08/23/2008

"Conditions on the ground"

That's neocon for "When Great White Father decides that it is best for his little brown children, no matter what you little brown people say".

That's neocon for "After we have won the war with Iran".

That's neocon for "After we have made sure that Iraq has a quisling regime that will do our bidding". But then again a quisling regime will always need an American army to keep it in power so "conditions on the ground" will never be favorable. Which is exactly as the neocons intend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 08/24/2008
- hsk01945 I'm a Fan of hsk01945 3 fans permalink

More "pie in the sky bye and bye,." and empty promises by the Bush/Cheney fascist cabal No victory there. Time to pull up stakes and get the Hell out of Dodge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 08/22/2008
- Guynemer I'm a Fan of Guynemer 6 fans permalink
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From the article:

"Obama has set a goal of removing most U.S. combat troops within 16 months of taking office, or by the spring of 2010. HE SAYS HE WOULD LISTEN TO ADVICE FROM MILITARY LEADERS BEFORE DECIDING."


This article is full of cr*p. Obama has never said anything even close to that. He has repeatedly said he'd have ALL the troops out sixteen months after he became President. He specifically went out of his way to chastize Petraeus in the press for suggesting he do otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 08/22/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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You're just plain wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 08/22/2008
- Guynemer I'm a Fan of Guynemer 6 fans permalink
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Well then, give us just one quote from Senator Obama w/ link that says that he would in anyway shape or form adjust his 16 month timeline based upon the advice of military leaders. I can give at least a half a dozen that specifically indicate that he will not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 08/22/2008
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2011 is still 2-1/2 years away. How many more senseless deaths of American soldiers, how many more billions down the toilet? And even at that, people probably had to work around Bush instead of with him to get even this....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 08/22/2008
- Amennyc I'm a Fan of Amennyc 16 fans permalink
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awww, whats another 400 billion? we have to pay it. not the rich guys.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 08/22/2008

heck - it's only slighyly more than the total Social Security OASI spent in 2007 (ssa.gov). . . and most was wasted in America on rent, medical expenses, denture cream and bingo games . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 08/23/2008
- Guynemer I'm a Fan of Guynemer 6 fans permalink
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This blog sure did bring the wackos out now didn't it? From anthrax conspiratists to surge deniers, from blaming Vietnam on Nixon to insisting that Bush is following Obama's lead on timelines. The comments here are about as bizarre and twisted as any I've seen on HuffPo - for at least a couple of hours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 08/22/2008

Don't shoot the messenger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 08/22/2008

Can we lock them in insane asylums instead?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 08/22/2008

Yes, it sure is a contrast to all the factual and brilliant analysis you been posting.
Oh wait....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 08/22/2008
- grata2ude I'm a Fan of grata2ude 61 fans permalink

What's that crunching sound? That's the sound of McCain getting run over by Bush's bus. Poor Johnny, all that sucking up he did to W and W goes and listens to Obama. Sucks to be McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 08/22/2008
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Wait and watch. McCain will say he's been advocating this all along....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 08/22/2008
- Guynemer I'm a Fan of Guynemer 6 fans permalink
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And Obama has??? What are you smoking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 08/22/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

Can we drop Mc off at the gates of hell; he's said more than once he would like to go

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 08/22/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 22 fans permalink
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George still sticking it to Mac. I thought they were supposed to b e on the same side?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 08/23/2008
- foolchild0 I'm a Fan of foolchild0 5 fans permalink

He had no choice- al-Maliki said he wanted a timetable, and Bush had already declared we'd leave if they asked us. It's al-Maliki and his newly-grown backbone we have to thank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 08/23/2008
- Swerinjer I'm a Fan of Swerinjer 9 fans permalink

LAWL look at clenburtrol's timestamps. He's been trolling here for hours. Not a very good life is it clen?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 08/22/2008
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Oh my gawd, this is terrible. Let's all close our eyes, put our hands over our ears and go, "la, la, la, la, la, la, la...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 08/22/2008

What's the matter, your mom yelling at you again??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 08/22/2008
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If elected, I pledge to bring the troo...um, er... the economy home by 2011.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 08/22/2008
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open a window and get some fresh air before it's too late...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 08/22/2008

basement is widow pained shut . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 08/23/2008

"PAINTED shut" . . . damn ,too quick to Spellchek . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 08/23/2008
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If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve; if impeached, I will not resign....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 08/22/2008

Boy doesn't McCain look like the sneaky old scrooge in that picture??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 08/22/2008
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He always looks like that when he tries too hard to grin. Looks like it hurts him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 08/22/2008
- Swerinjer I'm a Fan of Swerinjer 9 fans permalink

This is all phony PR for the election. Notice how they also "wrap up" the anthrax attacks and the WTC7 collapse all at the same time.

The fact they try to pull a stunt like this is a testament to how STUPID and GULLIBLE Americans really are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 08/22/2008
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Don't worry, Barry could still save face. If he's elected he could change it. Instead of the troops coming home by 2011... he could shorten it to 2010-1/2.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 08/22/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

what would he want to save face for - obviously he's already the president of the USA. Bush has to do what he says - Barry is already in charge- not one step wrong footed.

Surge did not work except to get more US troops killed this year.

We are wasting money buying oil that Iraq sells us ( and keeps the funds earning interest in our banks)

Bush is trying to do just what Barack O has said should be done - maybe to preempt Barry, but it is plain - the de facto President is OBAMA. And the other world leaders believe that as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 08/22/2008
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So what happened to neocon idiots (like yourself, if you must know) calling Obama "Hussein" in their posts. I'll tell you what happened. They discovered that his supporters were all joyfully and in an in-your-face way calling him "Hussein" too. So you idiots switched to "Barry," as a kind of attempted put-down. And, in fact, Obama was called "Barry" as a kid and teenager, as he recalls in his autobiography (which, BTW, unlike McCain he wrote himself), To his credit, he changed it back to his given name "Barack" as an adult. So if you @ssholes have taken to calling him "Barry" instead of "Hussein," maybe we, his supporters will too. In your face suckahs! Barry and Joe have got the MO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 08/22/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

hell of a lot closer than 100 years

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 08/22/2008
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Well, this war business ain't important anyway. Let's all go to the other thread and try to guess who Barry's VP will be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 08/22/2008

Who is Barry? Is that some new person who has thrown their hat in the ring, to run for pres?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 08/22/2008
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You might know him as H u s s e i n.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 08/22/2008
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you'll have to forgive 'ol Clem

he's been hitting the glue pretty hard today and it's all he can do to not short out his keyboard from all that drooling...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 08/22/2008
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