Bush Administration Inks Deal To Withdraw All Combat Forces From Iraq By 2011

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CHARLES BABINGTON | August 22, 2008 03:39 PM EST | AP

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In this March 5, 2008 file photo, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., smiles as he looks towards President Bush in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington. Barack Obama likes to say, "We can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term." Bush's "third term" has become a favorite attack line for Democrats, one repeated almost daily by the candidate and his surrogates. They argue that McCain favors failed Bush administration economic policies and would keep U.S. troops in Iraq for the foreseeable future. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, File)

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain prides himself on being gung-ho about pursuing the Iraq war even if it hurts him politically. Recent events in Baghdad threaten to put him still farther out on a limb, however, as the Bush administration works toward a troop withdrawal schedule that is more aggressive than McCain envisions.

Democrat Barack Obama says a McCain presidency would amount to a third term for President Bush, whose popularity approaches historic lows. If the Baghdad negotiations appear headed to fruition while Iraq remains relatively stable _ big ifs _ some say Obama may be able to push even harder, saying McCain would out-Bush Bush if he had his way.

On the other hand, if Americans believe the war is winding down in an acceptable way, it could significantly reduce the importance of an issue central to Obama's rise to political prominence.

Iraq and the Bush administration have reached a preliminary agreement under which U.S. combat forces would pull out of major Iraqi cities, where most of the fighting has taken place, by next June and leave Iraq by 2011. It would link troop reductions to achievement of certain undisclosed security milestones. The deal also would require the endorsement of top Iraqi leaders and the Iraqi parliament, which is far from certain.

McCain repeatedly has said that events on the ground in Iraq should dictate any pullout schedule. He once suggested, however, that troops would come home, victorious, by the end of his first term, in early 2013.

Obama has set a goal of removing most U.S. combat troops within 16 months of taking office, or by the spring of 2010. He says he would listen to advice from military leaders before deciding.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told reporters Thursday of the draft proposal, but they offered few specifics. It envisions the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq's cities by June 30, 2009, according to Iraqi and American officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposed deal's details have not been made public.

Zebari hinted at the proposal's possible complexity. "This agreement determines the principle provisions, requirements, to regulate the temporary presence and the time horizon, the mission of the U.S. forces," he said.

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Obama said in a statement Friday he was glad the Bush administration "has finally shifted to accepting a timetable for the removal of our combat troops from Iraq." He noted the draft has yet to be finalized, and reserved "final judgment."

He said McCain "has stubbornly focused on maintaining an indefinite U.S presence in Iraq, but events have made his bluster and record increasingly out of touch with reality. While Sen. McCain continues to offer unconditional military and economic support for Iraq, I strongly believe that we need to use our leverage with the Iraqi government to ensure a political settlement."

McCain campaign spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said, "We're monitoring closely and will have something to say when an agreement is finalized."

U.S. political activists seem uncertain how the proposal might affect the Obama-McCain race.

"At this point, Obama looks a little less reckless than he might have a few months ago," said Michael O'Hanlon, a military expert at the Brookings Institution. O'Hanlon, who once backed Obama, has often criticized him for refusing to acknowledge the achievements of the U.S. "surge" in troop numbers and for sticking to his 16-month withdrawal goal even as events in Iraq have changed.

O'Hanlon said the proposed agreement faces substantial political and military hurdles.

Polls suggest most U.S. voters are much more concerned about the economy than the war. The proposed agreement could make Iraq even less of an issue this fall.

Steve Elmendorf, a Washington lobbyist and former Democratic leadership aide in Congress, thinks that is unlikely, however.

"I don't think this gets the issue off the table," he said. "Between now and Election Day, not a lot of troops are going to come home" even if the proposal is enacted.

"Most Americans want this thing to end," Elmendorf said, and McCain "still talks of continued engagement." Many Americans, he said, "will vote for who will get us out."

McCain repeatedly has rebuked Obama on Iraq. Campaigning Wednesday in New Mexico, he said Obama "has made it clear he values withdrawal from Iraq above victory in Iraq."

Two days earlier in Florida, McCain said, "the hard-won gains of our troops hang in the balance. The lasting advantage of a peaceful and democratic ally in the heart of the Middle East could still be squandered by hasty withdrawal and arbitrary timelines."

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ Charles Babington covers politics and Congress for The Associated Press.

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain prides himself on being gung-ho about pursuing the Iraq war even if it hurts him politically. Recent events in Baghdad threaten to put ...
WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain prides himself on being gung-ho about pursuing the Iraq war even if it hurts him politically. Recent events in Baghdad threaten to put ...
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Jeez, haven't the Republicans learned any new tricks since Nixon?

The three biggest (Republican) lies:

1.) "Read my lips, no new taxes" -George H.W. Bush
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_my_lips:_no_new_taxes

2.) "new leadership will end the war" -Richard Nixon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_promise#Case_study:_Richard_Nixon.27s_Election_promises

3.) The 1994 "Contract With America"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/14/25257/6039

Do you really think McCain is going to let Iraq become a truly "sovereign" nation?

Not if his pals have anything to say about it:

http://www.mccainslobbyists.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 08/22/2008
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 100 fans permalink
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That picture makes it look like the troops are home already. I really don't think they will be if McSame gets the White House.

Now, Of course, the Bush administration is going to sell our weapons systems to the Iraqis.... so, we will, in the future, get to go back in there to take down some other dictator we set up. Beautiful!

Four more Wars, you trolls. And this time, the gov. may draft your asses. Then you can blow off your mouth about the "glory of war" and "staying the course" while you've got somebody shooting at you. Sound fun?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 08/22/2008
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I don't get it. The war is ending. The moonbats should be happy. What gives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 08/22/2008
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you really shouldn't be posting while you're huffing paint.

it makes you sound even more ignorant than usual- if that's possible..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 08/22/2008
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You probably don't get any at all...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 08/22/2008
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Shrub said it.

I doubt it.

That settles it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 08/22/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

Out of Iraq, but flown to the east!

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08152008/profile.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 08/22/2008
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Vindication!

Obama/Biden 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 08/22/2008
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Geez, poor Barry. All that campaigning for nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 08/22/2008
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Sexual dimorphism in the growth response of entire and gonadectomized rats to clenbuterol

This study compared the anabolic effects of clenbuterol in male and female rats...

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/268/6/E1077

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 08/22/2008
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Oh geez, you don't suppose if people read that... they might not like me anymore?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 08/22/2008
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It's the economy, stupid.

Remember that one? Yer gonna hear it again

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 08/22/2008
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Living on a prayer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 08/22/2008
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 100 fans permalink
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I always say "it's the ECONOMISTS, stupid" ala Milton Friedman and the adoption of supply side economics way back in the days of Ronnie Reagan, the Republican's hero. Remember? He ended the cold war and the Republicans just brought it back with their bully-boy posturing.
This is National Security?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 08/22/2008
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poor Clem. all that posting for nothing...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 08/22/2008
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Poor Clem ... all those meds yet so few lucid moments!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 08/22/2008
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Hey, this nation building stuff is fun... let's do some more! Soon the whole world 'round, will be just another American town. I can live with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 08/22/2008
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You're too stupid to live.

I'm saying that as politely as I can think of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 08/22/2008
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So you don't get irony, huh? Newman meant it as a criticism. You ARE an idiot...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 08/22/2008
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Barry will insist that when the troops come home, any and all vehicles they do it in... should have properly inflated tires.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 08/22/2008
- RayPacNW I'm a Fan of RayPacNW 4 fans permalink

Who?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 08/22/2008
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Oh, I'm sorry. I meant H u s s e i n..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 08/22/2008
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Gawd you're stupid...

maybe someone can properly inflate your brain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 08/22/2008
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U sir are a hole. Check the NASCAR website and under maintenance it says keeping ur car tire properly inflated does save gas. Open ur glove compartment take out ur cars manual and it will say keeping tires properly inflated will save on gas! U should be so proud of being stupid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 08/22/2008
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while you're at it, maybe you should ask clueless clem how many troop ships have wheels...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 08/22/2008

If it’s not clear by now, I’ll be explicit: the left has given the impression that it does not give a damn about the Iraqis all the while feigning the moral high ground in every debate on the subject.

Iraq: No more apologies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 08/22/2008
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This will be hard for you to understand, being in a gang where everyone has to lockstep and think the same thoughts and spout the same talking points, but

"the left," as you put it, has no monolithic dogma. Lots of individuals, united in a purpose perhaps, but for lots of different reasons.

Another thing you won't 'get:'

Some on the left care FOR THE TROOPS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 08/22/2008
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correction: nearly all on the left care for the troops. The idea that we don't is simply more wingnut spin designed to get the knuckledraggers foaming at the mouth...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 08/22/2008
- RayPacNW I'm a Fan of RayPacNW 4 fans permalink

You don't really believe that, I'm sure. You're just trying to get a reaction. So here's one, hope it makes you happy.

We invaded a sovereign nation halfway across the world for reasons other than what we stated (a lie). We have killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of that nation's innocent civilians. We have left two million people displaced, and an economy in utter shambles. We have emboldened our real enemies by giving them a new purpose and breeding ground. Our continued occupation may be helping to keep all-out war from breaking out, but it's only a matter of time before we have to leave (we'll be broke).

The "left" never wanted to go invade in the first place. The "left" realizes that Iraq is a sovereign nation with both the right and responsibility to manage its own concerns. The "left" has more concern for the Iraqi people in their little finger than any member of the "right" has in their entire body. And as for apologies, wise guy, we owe them a big one. Remember, nations don't invade other nations in the 21st century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 08/22/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

But since America has never fought a war on its own turf, bar the Civil War, they have no idea how ugly war really is...even in the 21st century

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 08/22/2008

McSame: noun, verb, and POW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 08/22/2008
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?

a nound, a verb, and a sound effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 08/22/2008

In light of Bush's 'Cut'n'end run" on his Eyewack policy, cutting it short by 97 years, McCain has come out and demanded a COMPLETE troop withdrawal from Georgia . . . . he has asked that Sherman pull back to PRE Gettysburg boundaries . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 08/22/2008
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Mcwarmonger has been talking to Sherman?

He ought to talk to Mr Peabody, he might learn something.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 08/22/2008
- Phoebe917 I'm a Fan of Phoebe917 49 fans permalink
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 08/22/2008
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Romans out of Gaul NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 08/22/2008
- katok I'm a Fan of katok 5 fans permalink
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I hope the Iraqi's excluded alternate definitions for Combat Troops such as:

Armed Peace Ambassadors
Security Forces
Military Police
Blackwater Consultant-Chief Expediter
Peacenik's

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 08/22/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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BREAKING NEWS!

GW just declared war on Russia for not pulling it's troops out of Georgia.

When reached for comment McCainasaurus called on the South Carolina, Alabama, and Florida National Guard to help defend Georgia. "We are all Georgians," McCainasaurus exclaimed, "we cannot allow Atlanta to fall again!"

Thus reminding America about his heroic yet ultimately doomed stand against General Sherman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 08/22/2008
- Agnim I'm a Fan of Agnim 6 fans permalink

Americans need to understand that contrary to the over hyped claims about the escalation/'surge', Iraq is relatively quiet; BECAUSE IRAQIS HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT THE USA IS ABOUT TO END THE OCCUPATION.

And I'm reminded that the monies being used to buy off the Iraqi nationalists to pacify them, IS LIMITED

If the UNPROVOKED colonization of Iraq is dragged out by the wild bush-McCaint desire for timeless occupation, then look for Iraqis to flare up again.

There can be no long term US presence in Iraq without continued upheavals and 'death to Americans'!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 08/22/2008

why so negative. i thought this is what all you obama supporters want. now they ink a deal to get out and you act pissed off. this is why you look anti-american. your hoping for failure just so it helps your candidate.

everyone should just be happy about this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 08/22/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Who's negative? Pay attention. We are gloating at O'bama being proven right AGAIN!

And McCainasaurus is supposed to be the one who is an expert on foreign policy and national security. Now he is the ONLY one that is against a timetable.

6,000,000,000 people to 1. Not good odds for McCainasaurus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 08/22/2008
- bluesnot I'm a Fan of bluesnot 13 fans permalink

Oh, right, let me run out and get Bush some flowers and candy to thank him.

It's a Republican trait to look beyond all the flag-draped caskets to a long-delayed withdrawal and find it something to celebrate. The selective memory is pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 08/22/2008
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ignorant and proud of it...

wrapping yourself in the flag and spouting nonsense is still just nonsense.

"your (sic) hoping for failure...­"

way to accuse everyone of treason, just like your clueless candidate

here's a clue for you- we've always been the side that wanted the war to end/not be started

it's the repub candidate who's not happy about it- we're ecstatic that Booosh has decided to once again implement O's policy. Too bad you knuckledraggers are too damned stupid to even realize that that is what 's happening.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 08/22/2008
- mccabe49 I'm a Fan of mccabe49 5 fans permalink

We are happy about it United Stat5es we are just pointing out the obvious. YOUR IGNORANCE at crediting McCain with any part of this. The same McCain who said he wants to stay 100 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 08/22/2008

The only thing I am unhappy about (other than the last 8 years and 2 stolen elections) is that once again the Bush Admin is talking in terms of "Time Horizons." As Jon Stewart so brilliantly said, (and I paraphrase because I don't care enough to get the direct quote right now) "They are naming this after an concept that, no matter how hard you try, you can never reach." This is just more of the same Bush, Inc. smoke and mirrors. They still have no intention of leaving while the oil compmanies and corporate elite can still make money off of this war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 08/22/2008
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