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Obama Gets Surge Support From Kerry And Feingold

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August 22, 2008 12:39 PM



Two of the Senate's most prominent war critics took to the defense of Barack Obama among withering criticism that his opposition to the surge was driven by political ambition.

In statements sent to the Huffington Post, Sens. John Kerry and Russ Feingold derided the current debate over the surge's successes as campaign theater. A far more important barometer of foreign policy judgment, they argued, was the authorization of the war in the first place -- an area where John McCain failed.

"Whether or not the 'surge' worked is the wrong debate to have," said Feingold. "The fact is that our military presence in Iraq was and remains a huge strategic mistake that continues to ignore our larger national security efforts. Supporters of the surge ignore the damage our military presence has done to our relationships with countries around the world, the serious strain put on our military, the massive costs to our domestic economy and the loss of so many lives. For the sake of our national security and the security of the region, we must change direction from the failed Iraq and Middle East policies supported by George Bush and John McCain."

Kerry, meanwhile, was more blunt of his criticism of McCain, describing the Arizona Republican as hopelessly ill-informed on matters pertaining to Iraq and the broader war on terror.

"I just don't get it," he ">told the Huffington Post on Thursday. "It's one thing that John McCain has made so many false claims about the surge. He claimed that it started the Anbar Awakening when the Anbar Awakening was already well underway when the surge was announced, and he seems to confuse Sunni and Shi'a repeatedly. But this false argument that opposing the Bush policy could only be done for political reasons is the place where reason and debate go to die. You call him out on the facts and he questions our integrity? That sounds an awful lot like George W. Bush."

The remarks of the two high-profiled Democrats come as the issue of Iraq is being thrust back into the presidential campaign --- somewhat surprisingly -- by John McCain. For the good part of the last month, the presumptive Republican nominee has openly and frequently questioned Obama's judgment and patriotism in regards to his position on the surge.

"My opponent would rather lose a war than lose an election," the Arizona Republican likes to declare.

And Obama, by and large, has not found an effective retort. During an appearance before the Veterans of Foreign Wars earlier this week, he accused his opponent of questioning his love of country, a posture that many Democratic activists saw as inherently defensive. A few days later, the Illinois Democrat turned up the heat, accusing McCain of hiding his bad policies behind the recent successes of U.S. troops in Iraq.

"His whole argument when it comes to foreign policy and how his judgment is superior is all based on the surge," he said during a town hall meeting on Thursday. "He will argue, he is wrong on everything else, but 'I stood by and committed to doubling down more troops in Iraq and General Petraeus was with me and I seek victory and Obama wants defeat.'... Let me just close by saying this. I will put my judgment on foreign policy over the last seven years against John McCain's anytime. And I think that an objective analysis will say that I've been right a lot more than he has for all that time he has spent in Washington."

Two of the Senate's most prominent war critics took to the defense of Barack Obama among withering criticism that his opposition to the surge was driven by political ambition. In statements sent to t...
Two of the Senate's most prominent war critics took to the defense of Barack Obama among withering criticism that his opposition to the surge was driven by political ambition. In statements sent to t...
 
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1consrvative writes;
Um...Uh Uh Uh....Umm, Uh Um...Uh Uh Ah Um....Uh....is that thoughtful enough for you?

Are you quoting McThusaleh's answer to the question of how many houses he owns?

Truth is, Biden is probably the best available choice for Obummer. Hillary would have added another big target to launch their stink bombs at, given she would have come with the ugly old baggage that her husband has become. All the rest of the possibilities were political Lilliputians, by comparison

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 08/23/2008

The "surge" is pure propoganda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 08/23/2008

The Surge is a failure.

Iraqi Deaths surged.

Now Iraqi deaths are higher then before the Surge.

Violence is UP.

McCain would rather start more wars than lose an election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 08/23/2008

If Kerry defends Obama like he did himself,Obama toast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 08/23/2008

I think Kerry learned from his mistake in not defending himself vigorously in 2004.

Feingold is a dedicated politician who has the ability to recognize bullshit and to shoot it down. He will call insanemccain on every lie and halftruth he spews.

Seems as if the dems are finally rallying around Obama and are determined to win the white house and a veto-proof majority in congress this year. Which they can only do by defending their party against insanemccain's rovian tactics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 08/23/2008
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OB08=Landslide. Sorry warcorn

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 08/24/2008

Here's John McCain spouting another lie...

The surge was to buy time for the Iraqi people to form a government that would work together and be fair to all.... they have failed to do so.

The surge did NOT work... it failed... they have not formed a governemtn YET... they're still killing each other on religious lines..

McCain stands up before God and everyone and lies every day.

The MSM needs to call him out on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 08/23/2008

The greatest defense against that ridiculous charge made by McCain (he'd rather lose a war than lose an election) is to call him out on what the exact definition of "winning" this war is.

How can you win the war in Iraq? The framing of the issue as "losing" v. "winning" is brilliant, but it falls apart as soon as you push on it a little bit.

One Tack to take: "We won the land war - Our military was brilliant - In spite of the fact that the war was a mistake, the war was won in short order.....where we failed was going there in the first place because any expert on Iraq could have predicted that if we won the war we would certainly lose the peace...."

Another thought:
"The surge was a tactic to create the misimpression that the war was still going and was actually winnable in the traditional sense of winning vs. losing. Bush and McCain would rather put more Americans in harms' way for political gain than admit to what a monstrous mistake it was to be in Iraq in the first place."

He needs to nail John McCain down and force him to define victory. How will we know when we've won in Iraq? Is there a parade of some kind? A celebration? Signing of an accord in a train car?

None of that will ever happen there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 08/23/2008

Seriously, get a camera that hooks to your computer, make a video of your comments and post them on YouTube. If honest, everyday people like you would start making videos that speak the truth and hit McCain hard with it, as Obama has, so far, been unwilling to do, everyday people that aren't associated with MoveOn or any other political organization, maybe we'd get a very large grassroots movement going in Obama's direction.

I have seen some GREAT comments on all of the blogs I've read at Huffington Post, and at Newsweek, etc., and if those comments were posted as short videos on YouTube, how many more people would get a chance to see them and react?? The real internet grassroots is there. I hope you consider it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 08/23/2008

I doubt Mr. Obama would be able to have an effective retort unless it was written on his tele prompter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 08/22/2008
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Same with your buddy McSame because he can't remember a DAMN thing. And if there is no teleprompter, he has to have Lieberman and Graham whisper his responses to him. Or he will have a nice little clarification ready the next day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 08/22/2008

Oh please, give this tired silliness a rest. Barack is a thinker. So he takes his time to think as he speaks. I'd much rather have that than a non thinking idiot who doesn't know how many house he owns. Jeez, McCain for president?... what a scary joke!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 08/23/2008

Um...Uh Uh Uh....Umm, Uh Um...Uh Uh Ah Um....Uh....is that thoughtful enough for you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 08/23/2008

Where do these conservatives get this teleprompter bullhockey? What a bunch of idjits!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 08/23/2008

Great article; They have nothing on Obama so the usual Ayres, Jeremiah Wright and Rezko are there only topics. FYI.....Rezko also donated to Bush several times. Check it out....don't have the webpage anylonger, but it should be available somewhere.

Also, FYI; Don Diamond is McCain's Rezko. A wealthy land developer that has worked with McCain on deals including closed army bases. Diamond made 20 Mil on one deal alone after McCain twisted arms and legislated a few changes to favor himself and his fond friend. Diamond is a big player, and McCain sought finance reform only after he got caught in the Keating 5 scandel. He decided he needed a makeover. Some maverick Eh!!

I think it's time fella's to start reving up the heat on this 'freeloader' McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 08/22/2008

After 2004 Kerry has no credibility. He failed us and stopped when we needed him to go after the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 08/22/2008

Don't be silly. He has a lot of credibility. He was just slimed by the snakey Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 08/23/2008

Well, at least we don't see Obama with any ever present props like Lieberman, Graham and Cindy Lou.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 08/22/2008

Finally the fight is on. I mean!!! What John McCain has been boasting about re the surge is a lower-level tactic...on the ground fighting tactic -- but is he running for a promotion up a grade in the military? No, he's running for the job to set the overall strategy...eg will getting rid of Saddam Hussein -- an sob if ever there was one -- help us keep Iran in check or make things worse? Will the cost in overall lives and fortune justify what we hope to gain? This strategic planning McCain got way wrong. He told us it would be a cake walk. AND has his and Bush's whispering in the ear of the Georgia President that we have their backs, which may have encouraged the fool to attack Russian peacekeepers, been a good strategy?

Obama is clear on what the real job of president is -- to set the strategy/missions of our politics, policies, and military. Leave McCain to surges and other tactics to carry out Obama's strategies. And let's elect a real commander in chief who knows the hell what he's doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 08/22/2008

No more wars for American Big Oil!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 08/23/2008

Memo to Feingold: Stop kissing McW's a$$!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 08/22/2008

It's about time that some of the Democrats stood up to help Obama.

Notably absent are the freakin CLINTONS. I am so glad that I worked against hillary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 08/22/2008

LOL Kerry and Feingold! As Pastor Wright may say: "America's losers ... have come home to roost ..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 08/22/2008

LOL great sense of humor sensibleamerican!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 08/22/2008

Seriously, are all Republicans as ignorant as you appear to be? It would seem so by the goofy, insane comments made here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 08/23/2008

another anti Clinton hater makes me closer to mc cain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 08/22/2008

If some anonymous poster on the Interwebs makes you a McSame supporter, then you weren't really a Democrat to begin with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 08/22/2008

Maybe you will meet him in the closet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 08/22/2008

Well, if you think you're hurting us by cutting off your own nose to spite your face... have at it! And if you're successful and Insane-McCain hurts you or those you love, just remember back to this moment of stupidty and know that YOU did it to yourself!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 08/23/2008

I am too, I no longer feel I know them (the Clintons). Time for Hillary to retire also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 08/23/2008
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I only wish that Kerry had fought back this hard against the Repubs in 2004. However, I certainly appreciate his efforts on O's behalf.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 08/22/2008
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Oh! if he only did. Hundreds/thousands of lives and Billions of $ could have been saved. Can't change the past but I am glad to see that these two warriors are willing to fight this time around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 08/22/2008

Too bad more Dems aren't calling Mac on his BS lies about Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 08/23/2008

Sending statements to the Huffington Post is not going to work. The surrogates need to get out in front of the cameras and hammer home the truth, that John McCain is a LIAR who will do anything to get elected, including lie about Mother Theresa. Why can't the Democrats grow at least uno huevo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 08/22/2008
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