Obama: "If I Get Punched, Very Rarely Have You Seen Me Not Hit Back Hard"

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Newsweek   |  Jon Meacham   |   August 24, 2008 09:55 AM


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Late last Thursday afternoon, before announcing who will join him in the fall campaign against John McCain, Barack Obama spoke with NEWSWEEK's Jon Meacham about fathers and sons, character and ambition--and how he will not hesitate to fight hard in the remaining weeks of the race. Edited excerpts:

MEACHAM: You and Senator McCain fit into very interesting categories of presidential history. There is either a really strong father in the picture--Adams, Kennedy, Bush--or there is virtually none at all--Jackson, Hayes, Clinton. Why do you think men with strong mothers and absent fathers tend to do so well in politics?
OBAMA: It's an interesting question, and I've always got to be careful about pop psychology. [But] I offered one suggestion in something I wrote in "The Audacity of Hope," and this is not original to me: "A man's either trying to live up to his father's expectations or make up for his father's mistakes." I think to put yourself through what is a pretty rigorous process of running for president, you've got to have learned to set up some pretty high expectations for yourself--something's got to be driving you--and in my case if you have somebody that is absent, maybe you feel like you've got something to prove when you're young, and that pattern sets itself up over time. But also because, again in my case, the stories I heard about my father painted him as larger than life, which also meant that I felt I had something to live up to. You could argue that if you're too well adjusted, you don't end up running for president. So if the pattern sets in pretty early on where you're pushing your comfort level, it probably has to do with those very early influences, and that can come from either the absence or the presence of a father who ends up motivating you in some way.

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Late last Thursday afternoon, before announcing who will join him in the fall campaign against John McCain, Barack Obama spoke with NEWSWEEK's Jon Meacham about fathers and sons, character and ambitio...
Late last Thursday afternoon, before announcing who will join him in the fall campaign against John McCain, Barack Obama spoke with NEWSWEEK's Jon Meacham about fathers and sons, character and ambitio...
 
 

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- eden4barack08 See Profile I'm a Fan of eden4barack08 permalink

-"But I'll tell you what, if I get punched, very rarely have you seen me not hit back hard."-

Obama, I love you man, but I'm sorry, I disagree on this. I haven't seen any such thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 08/25/2008
- lovethesinner See Profile I'm a Fan of lovethesinner permalink

Love that picture of Barack. He looks like 007.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 08/25/2008
- MorpheusXNYC See Profile I'm a Fan of MorpheusXNYC permalink

I agree. The problem is that Barack is fighting back on McCain's terms, letting him define the nature of the fight and pick the place where it's fought.

Additionally, I think the problem is that Barack believes in a proportional response and so he responds to one punch with another one, rather than a dizzying flurry or knee-buckling combo that sends the other guy sprawling onto the canvas.

Obama is going to have to go back to the well of Chicago politics and "get gully" as they say. The future of the NATION is at stake and Republicans have shown that they know how to win.
They keep bloodying Democrats with sleazy tactics, chipping away at our candidate's lead, all the the while admonishing us against going negative in order to keep us on the defensive and prevent us from fighting fire with fire.

And time after time, we somehow thing we're going to stay above the fray and fight the good fight and win.
I'll give the Clintons this much - they know how to play dirty, hardball, sleazy politics and win.

Barack COULD go hard against McCain and put him away. Sure he'll lose 3-5 points in the polls, but McCain will lose a good 10 points, at least, ensuring victory.

Sometimes you have to foul the other team in order to hold onto your lead and win the game.
Especially when the other team has been throwing elbows, shoving and intentionally fouling you the whole time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 08/25/2008
- Rescisco See Profile I'm a Fan of Rescisco permalink

"Fighting back" is the problem. You've let McCain define the contest, and now you will respond? Attact, attack, attack, define the enemy before he defines you. Oh, that battle's already lost and now (with the aid of the MSM) they have made the election about Obama etc. That is not good folks. I feel sick! For all of our idealism, we need to admit the "old (negative) politics" works. You have to beat these guys senseless at their own game. Its not to late, but we do by god need to get in the game!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 08/24/2008
- GaiusLucilius See Profile I'm a Fan of GaiusLucilius permalink

Recisco, you are right. That is it in a nutshell. You get a "favorite" click!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 08/25/2008
- erykah See Profile I'm a Fan of erykah permalink

YOu know what,Americans are so stupid. I can say that because I am one. But really, this is why we are in the mess we are in becasue he major in tough talk and violent reaction. People do not want to engage in real isses, they just want to see politicians get down and dirty. This is nonsense. Folks grow up. This cowboy mentality is sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 08/24/2008
- ms.understood See Profile I'm a Fan of ms.understood permalink

This is a very good point. These are the same idiots that voted for Bush twice, so really, how much do we really expect from them. I'm an American too and I totally agree that they are just as stupid as the day is long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 08/25/2008
- MorpheusXNYC See Profile I'm a Fan of MorpheusXNYC permalink

Exactly. That's why it doesn't make sense to continue to use the old dignified, above board campaign strategy that all of our losing candidates have used.

Americans respond to campaign ads that impact them in a visceral way. Their brains are completely bypassed by a simple appeal to their bigotry, greed, fear, xenophobia and moral hypocrisy, and they'll pull the lever for the other guy every time.

Obama needs to make the campaign a referendum on Bush and McCain and the future of the country.

He needs fire and brimstone, apocalyptic ads showing the peace and prosperity we had under a Democratic government 8 years ago, the show how the country has degenerated and been turned into a global outhouse by the Republicans and Bush, then show what the future of the country will be like 4 years from now with the economically inept, elitist, war mongering McCain as president.

Voters will turn stark white, crap their pants and pull the lever for Obama in staggering numbers.

This needs to happen. Seriously....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 08/25/2008
- saron123 See Profile I'm a Fan of saron123 permalink

I believe in you, Barack!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 08/24/2008
- FatherWolf See Profile I'm a Fan of FatherWolf permalink

"But I'll tell you what, if I get punched, very rarely have you seen me not hit back hard."

OK Senator, now's the time.

But keep it simple. Don't use complicated syntax that loses peoples' attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 08/24/2008
- confuseddemocrat See Profile I'm a Fan of confuseddemocrat permalink

I agree. Even though in liberal and artistic circles verbosity and complicated syntax is a sign of intelligence and deep thought, it has a tendency to turn alot of people off.

In addition, his stammerings and pauses coupled with his longwinded diatribes comes across as if he is trying to obfuscate his true intentions.

This is why he is being tarnished by the "elitism" and "empty suit" smears so easily.
Short but accurate concise messages are needed from Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 08/24/2008
- Actionmac See Profile I'm a Fan of Actionmac permalink

yeah keep it stupid... as sad as it sounds it's the truth and the reason we are not leading the world as we once did.

Next generation is going to have to pick up the ball and run with it or we will have a aristocracy not a democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 08/24/2008
- pupbayer See Profile I'm a Fan of pupbayer permalink

It's not the complicated syntax that loses peoples' attention...it's the verbosity. And when I think of O AND Biden...well, let's just say we need to schedule longer events if both are going to speak...and speak...and speak...and speak...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 08/24/2008
- lindaqqq See Profile I'm a Fan of lindaqqq permalink

Way too long for people who can barely handle 30 sec. sound bites of information.
We've already had a dumbed down president who appealed to the weakest links of our society.
How'd that work out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 08/24/2008
- McChimp See Profile I'm a Fan of McChimp permalink

FAIL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 08/24/2008
- theMightyT See Profile I'm a Fan of theMightyT permalink

16 minutes each at the rally yesterday.

ya, that's WAY too long.

If you have the attention span of a 5 year old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 08/24/2008
- NotWithObamaCampaign See Profile I'm a Fan of NotWithObamaCampaign permalink

How about punching back on taxes? You know how my taxes increased under Bush?

o Increased state income taxes and sales taxes. Government cuts trickle down.

o Deregulation of credit card industry -- my 19% went to 31% (under 1970s usury laws even the 19% would be too high)

o Deregulation of oil -- under $2 to over $4 during the Bush administration. Why don't we, like Mexico, nationalize this as a strategic, nondelegable national interest? You should at least put it on the table to see what the stick does to speculation.

o Deregulation of drug industry. Undisclosed side effects of Lipitor made me unable to walk for two months.

o Increased regulation of civil law. I haven't sued Lipitor, but if I did there is a cap on what they would pay in damages. Because of that, corporate bean counters everywhere can measure a specific level or economic risk in rushing unsafe drugs and products into commerce.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 08/24/2008
- majorteddy See Profile I'm a Fan of majorteddy permalink

Gas was $146.9 when George W. Bush took office. It took exactly 4 months and it went up 25 cents. Amazing how demand takes gas up 16 percent in one day! Bush Chene should be tried for war crimes and crimes against society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 08/25/2008
- MsYellowDog See Profile I'm a Fan of MsYellowDog permalink

Doesn't everyone see that Bush-Cheney have been aiming at one thing,and one thing only,for all their term: complete control of all government agencies and bureaucracies by the Right Wing,the so-called "Neocons",the Religious Right....and the eventual development of a religion-based "test for citizenship and privileges" ruled by a single party---the Rethuglicans.By cleverly manipulating the press,who have become nothing but lapdogs,and repeating their poisonous message over and over until everyone "believes" it,they have succeeded in convincing Americans that any disagreement with their policies constitutes "treason" or "not supporting the troops."How have these reptiles gained this kind of power over the American people?Refer to "Animal Farm" for more into: "Two legs bad;four legs good."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 08/24/2008
- indypete See Profile I'm a Fan of indypete permalink

Lipitor would also counter-sue you for slander or somesuch, thus draining your ability to fight your own suit. Their lawyers are on staff and get paid either way, so they might as well work 'em. Nobody ever seems to bring up the "hidden taxes" you mention... one would think it would be a useful weapon against the lies of the neocons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 08/24/2008
- NotWithObamaCampaign See Profile I'm a Fan of NotWithObamaCampaign permalink

SLAPP motion against slander suit would add some money to my damages. What's your point? Do you think the drug companies do disclose or are required to disclose side effects? Play this game. Google side effects and enter forums where people tell their tales. We now have scores of unsafe drugs in commerece.

Forgot to mention:

o health care premiums up 250%

o utility bill went from $20/mo to $60 (under Enron) to $30 -- still a 50% increase

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 08/24/2008
- hopefulinpa See Profile I'm a Fan of hopefulinpa permalink

I think now that the convention is here and when it is over a lot more people will be paying attention. Obama/Biden will fight back hard.. I think O was just saving it for when the majority of people are watching. I hope he literally beats the snot out of him.

I work with a guy who is backing McBush.. I asked why and he said that he is a POW, a veteran and the vets love him... I sent him McBush's veteran's voting record. When I told him about it he looked shocked! I don't know how this guy is going to vote, but I am glad I could present to him the facts on McBushs voting record. I also told him how he has consistently voted against women's issues. He could not believe it! All this needs to be put out there front and center in super big type. I would like it if some rich organization could print those facts up and distribute them in some of the states!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 08/24/2008
- clsmithj See Profile I'm a Fan of clsmithj permalink

A lot is the media that failed to focus on both candidates. They mainly looked at Obama and let McCain off Scott free. McCain has a lot dissenters in his party that know he's a fraud, but their good at concealing their drama, unlike the Democrats.

But look at this what I found on McCain from just doing a quick youtube search: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1682433/board/thread/115720537?d=115720537#115720537

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 08/24/2008
- surfcitysteven See Profile I'm a Fan of surfcitysteven permalink

Interesting article in the Sunday paper here in NM and I believe it is the key to landslides in New Mexico and Colorado for Obama. He will have to write off Texas and Arizona, which are already in the bag for McCain. Seems McCain was stupid enough to suggest that Arizona needs to be given more water from the upper basin states of Colorado and New Mexico ( and Utah but who cares). Believe me you people from other parts of the country, there is no other single issue as important to us here in these two states, even among the staunchest right wing bible-thumper here, God, gays and guns will take a very distant second in priority when a presidential candidate says he wants to give away your water. Nothing pisses us off more than having to give even one drop of our water to Texas and Arizona and now the downstreamers have a candidate that wants to rewrite the water compacts in their favor. Obama needs to hit hard on this issue. NM and CO will drop out of the "tossup" category in a week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 08/24/2008
- MargaretO See Profile I'm a Fan of MargaretO permalink

I wouldn't write off Arizona, just yet, either.

I see very little McCain enthusiasm in Phoenix. He couldn't even garner enough people to hold his fundraiser in the Civic Center, they had to move it to a Scottsdale friends home.
I haven't seen a single bumper sticker or sign posted for him.
McCain hasn't reached anywhere near 50% in the polls in Arizona, yet.

Granted, I have only seen what's going on in the Phoenix area, but it is a large majority of the population in Arizona.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 08/24/2008
- Donnat See Profile I'm a Fan of Donnat permalink

Interesting. I am n Texas and I am only just now seeing a few McCain stickers/signs. The Obama signs/stickers have been plentiful since the primary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 08/24/2008
- vallon See Profile I'm a Fan of vallon permalink

Interesting. I hope an Obama staffer reads this. Try to spread the message far and wide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 08/24/2008
- myhomeo See Profile I'm a Fan of myhomeo permalink

You can be sure tht if we're reading it Obama's staff is reading it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 08/24/2008
- surfcitysteven See Profile I'm a Fan of surfcitysteven permalink

He made the comment to the Denver Post last week, apparently not realizing how stupid it was to discuss a water issue and how it could be better drawn (Arizona) getting the benefit of course. The New Mexican had an editorial on it today. I think the issue is a keeper for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 08/24/2008
- Avembe See Profile I'm a Fan of Avembe permalink

We ALL know that what Obama is doing is just EXCEPTIONNAL, HISTORICAL
So many politicians admire the guy but they just can't show it too much...
America has an incredible chance to have a guy like him...No matter what happens, he has ALREADY cHANGED politics in the country...
But i prefer that he wins, that would be...GOSH...think about it guyz...that would be you know...
i also wish to see haters faces at that moment!!!!!!!!!!Oh my GOD!!!!!!!

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