Obama Asks DOJ To Block Terrorist Ad, Investigate Donors

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First Posted: 08-25-08 05:46 PM   |   Updated: 09-25-08 05:12 AM

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The Politico has the story that Barack Obama has appealed to the Department of Justice in his efforts to fight a Republican billionare's ads that connect the Democratic candidate to foreign and domestic terrorists:

Obama's campaign has written the Department of Justice demanding a criminal investigation of the "American Issues Project," the vehicle through which Dallas investor Harold Simmons is financing the advertisements. The Obama campaign - and tens of thousands of supporters - are pressuring television networks and affiliates to reject the ads with some success: CNN and Fox News are not airing the attacks, and some local affiliates have also refused.

Obama has also launched his own response ad, directly addressing Simmons' attempt to link him to domestic terror.

The project is "a knowing and willful attempt to violate the strictures of federal election law," Obama general counsel Bob Bauer wrote to Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Keeney last week in a letter provided to Politico. Bauer argued that by advocating Obama's defeat, the ad should be subject to the contribution limits of federal campaign law, not the anything-goes regime of issue advocacy.

The Huffington Post's Seth Colter Walls had previously reported on this ad's questionable legal status.

The Ayers ad mentions Obama's name, uses the word "elect" (in the form of a question), and mentions not a single legislative issue, and quite obviously takes a position on his character and fitness for office. Thus, if an incorporated 501c(4) produced the ad and paid for its broadcast with corporate funds, it should be filing FEC disclosure reports.

Click here to read that story, and to see the ad in question

Obama has also rolled out a new ad that denounces the McCain attack. Click here to watch Obama's ad.

Simmons, who put out the ad, is an economic powerhouse for Republicans.


The spokesman for the American Issues Project, the independent group whose ad is the most negative of the cycle and links Obama to terrorism, says the group just filed a report naming its sole donor.



The donor, spokesman Christian Pinkston said, is Dallas billionaire Harold Simmons, who made his first fortune in chain pharmacies and is now listed as the 73rd richest person in the world, with a net worth estimated by Forbes at $2.1 billion.



Simmons, a major Republican donor, gave maximum $2,300 contributions to Senator John McCain last year, as well as to former Governor Mitt Romney and to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani.


Click here to read that story

Earlier: Experts: Obama-Ayers Ad May Be Illegal

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What ayers did 30+ years ago was not just and hopefully, was prosecuted according to the laws. (I don't know since I was too young at that time). Now, Ayers is serving his community. Republicans, get over it! Do you really want the Dems to air all of McCain's dirty laundry? Run an ad about the Keating 5 where there is a direct association.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 08/25/2008
- loria I'm a Fan of loria 158 fans permalink
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Keating 5 would be fair. Obama wasn't even a teenager when Ayers was part of Weather Underground. He went to his house once and the two served on a charity committe together. They aren't close. More bs from the party that has little else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 08/25/2008
- DoTheMath I'm a Fan of DoTheMath 49 fans permalink

Wow, Simmons is rich! He even qualifies by McCain's standards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 08/25/2008
- ShamusNYC I'm a Fan of ShamusNYC 13 fans permalink

Which is why we need to cut his taxes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 08/25/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Too many ugly americans ... muslim americans pay just as much taxes as any other american. Those so-called Hillary supporters who continue to say that O is a muslim with distain and no proof of that need to know that religion ought not be any litmus test in this country for any reason ... very ugly americans ... to attempt exporting democracy across seas is totally rediculous!!! America seems to have lost it's soul .. this behavior was not the intend of the Constitution!!

Think just how american muslims are feeling as they listen & watch this kind of hate eminate from these people!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 08/25/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 38 fans permalink
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I totally agree Glady !!

Maybe someone will have the guts to call the slimers down on the Muslim smearing.

I have Muslim friends and it is more than hurtful it is shameful

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 08/25/2008
- loria I'm a Fan of loria 158 fans permalink
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Yeah, I could hardly see the argument that Hillary was somehow cheated out of the nomination. But now they are resorting to "he's a Muslim". They never were Hillary supporters. Hillary supporters are smarter than that. Paid Republicans, that's what I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 08/25/2008

Am I the only one here that has a problem with the government deciding whether the ad is "legal" or not?

Let everyone speak, even those that are wrong, and allow the voters to figure it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 08/25/2008
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The government is the correct agency because the alleged violations are of Federal Law. The protest isn't about what the ad said per se, but about the fact that it violates the soft money laws which say organizations do not have to disclose contributors only if they put out issue ads with no candidate endorsments etc. If they don't do this then they are covered by a different section of the law and must meet all federal election reporting laws. Which these haven't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 08/25/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 38 fans permalink
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there are laws on the books for decades regarding ad claims

There are ten pages on what you can say about soap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 08/25/2008
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Actually, it's always the govenrment that makes that kind of decision whether in circuit courts or federal courts.

Can the DOJ be honest about this? We'll see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 08/25/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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ignorance breeds ignorance, why feed it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 08/25/2008
- SoCalNick I'm a Fan of SoCalNick 90 fans permalink
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SO SDSKELTON03 Can I print a bunch of REALLY Rank stuff about your Mother and what she did in college while making the rounds through the Frat houses?? Can I print a bunch of REALLY Obscene stuff about what your DAUGHTER does in Bars on the weekend for tips??




Of course this is just an example...how did it make YOU feel? I am sure they are both Women of pure thought and character BUT how will you PROVE it ? There is a reason THAT kind of thing is against the law.

Still think it is UNFAIR???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 08/25/2008
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I applaud Obama for taking this to the DOJ. It shows he is taking action even if he is to meet defeat. Isn't the DOJ filled to the brim with unqualified Bush cronies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 08/25/2008
- LarBear I'm a Fan of LarBear 30 fans permalink
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But, but, but.... I seem to recall the Clinton's being trashed over and over for trying to control the Media..... Same hold true of O??? Let me guess... This is different....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 08/25/2008
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I'm missing the connection. A law violation by an advertising entity doesn't match the trashing HRC took. One is illegal the other is stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 08/25/2008
- JadedAggie I'm a Fan of JadedAggie 10 fans permalink

What on earth are you talking about? This has absolutely nothing to do with the press, it's a political advertisement. He's merely forcing a really stupid independent group to follow the campaign finance law their own candidate wrote, supported. and passed. If you want to try to push this issue through the press be my guest, but don't try to tell me misrepresenting the facts in a slanderous advertisement that blatantly breaks the law is somehow something that should be allowed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 08/25/2008
- loria I'm a Fan of loria 158 fans permalink
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It's illegal you idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 08/25/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Sounds like someone can't take the heat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 08/25/2008
- lily31 I'm a Fan of lily31 25 fans permalink

Are you kidding????

It isn't the heat that bothers him, it's the illegality of the organization's use of funds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 08/25/2008
- hmmmmmer I'm a Fan of hmmmmmer 31 fans permalink

Give me a break, some lies and the crap the Republicans spew is not fit for human consumption and should be vomited out. This billionaire jerk is one piece of crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 08/25/2008

I agree with pupbayer, he never seems to be able to take the heat. He must have been the kid in school who said "I'm telling!" a lot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 08/25/2008
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Like your mama having a hot flash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 08/25/2008

if anyone can't take the hit it's u Rethugs and the myth of John McCain's POW experience. "Song Bird" anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 08/25/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 38 fans permalink
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Sounds like someone who will appoint the next Attorney General of the United States.

How does that sound to you and your criminal friends?

They are building condos in Paraguy for the likes of you.

Remember the part about "Freedom and Justice for All" ? Well it's coming back

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 08/25/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Condos in Paraguy? Sounds like I should have a lot more money than I do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 08/25/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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Mc Cain break the law and run an illgeal ad to get elected President ??????

nah not Mc Nuggets !!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 08/25/2008
- ShamusNYC I'm a Fan of ShamusNYC 13 fans permalink

Excuse me, but were you a POW?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 08/25/2008
- Brainz22 I'm a Fan of Brainz22 7 fans permalink
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Person Of Wealth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 08/25/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 38 fans permalink
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yeah, in the war of the worlds, yeah that was it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 08/25/2008
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Shamus is funny. A troll, but a funny one.

I've read 4 posts now utterly convinced that McNugget's POW experience is somehow qualifying him.

Well I don't know how much worldly experience he got while being a POW. From what comes from the guy's mouth, I get the feeling this man has learned nothing his whole life. A vain, sad little man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 08/25/2008
- Waltb31 I'm a Fan of Waltb31 36 fans permalink
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McCain was a collaborator/traitor. He is unfit for office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 08/25/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
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The article needs to be updated and corrected, Fox News has played the ad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 08/25/2008
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oh, but it played only by "accident"....so McSlimebucket didn't have to pay for it. Nice, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 08/25/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

So has a number of other networks. I've seen it at least 8 times in the last 2 days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 08/25/2008

I am just sure I saw it originally here on HP, but today when I went to the site, the link to the ad is nonfuncitional.......it will be put on you-tube and get multiple hits when it runs out of play on cable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 08/25/2008
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I saw it on CNN this afternoon

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 08/25/2008
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Does anyone have Harold Simmons office phone number, or maybe his cell number?

I would love to give him a few calls to ask him if he thinks that Obama's is directly linked to domestic terrorists.

Maybe there are a few other thousand bloggers who might need clarifications on his support of this ad.

I just want to make sure that I've got his position correct before I report on him.

Any suggestions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 08/25/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

You really think he cares if you "tell on him?" Seriously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 08/25/2008
- Harrygton I'm a Fan of Harrygton 3 fans permalink

I would be interested in getting a hold of him for clarification, also!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 08/25/2008

Obama launched his political career in the home of Bill Ayers. Mr. Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist whose only regret is that the Weather Underground "didn't do enough."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 08/25/2008
- jhNY I'm a Fan of jhNY 65 fans permalink

Get lost, troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 08/25/2008
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Bush launched his energy policies behind locked doors with Mr. Cheney presiding. Who has done more harm to the American public?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 08/25/2008

The 0bamicans sure have the freeper tactic down to a tee. Didn't like them when Repugs used them, and don't like them now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 08/25/2008
- TheShadow I'm a Fan of TheShadow 12 fans permalink

The Department Of Justice? Oh yeah...They'll get around to it...

Just in time for Thanksgiving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 08/25/2008
- hmmmmmer I'm a Fan of hmmmmmer 31 fans permalink

Exactly right, the wheels of justice turn slowly especially with the rusty shape they are in from this administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 08/25/2008

Or Xmas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 08/25/2008

If you ask me we need to do something about SEAN HANNITY. He pushes this ayers issue relentlessly. We need to do something about him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 08/25/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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He's certifiable - does anyone know anyone with a straight jacket ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 08/25/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

He should be sued ... yellow journalism ... slander, libel!! That man is not even borderline ... he's absolutely misleading the american public ... lying to be exact!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 08/25/2008

It is called freedom of speech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 08/25/2008

If anyone remember, he was the one who Told GS from ABCNEWS to ask Obama about his relationship with Ayers. SEAN HANNITY needs to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 08/25/2008
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Shouldn't George Stephanopolis be to blame as well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 08/25/2008

Use your freeper techniques and bombard Faux.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 08/25/2008
- okayigive I'm a Fan of okayigive 12 fans permalink

My question is why isa link being provided to this sort of ad? Television may be refusing to air the ad, but this site is promoting it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 08/25/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Agreed - very odd ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 08/25/2008
- hmmmmmer I'm a Fan of hmmmmmer 31 fans permalink

I just refuse to click and watch them, we have a choice, also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 08/25/2008

The link to the ad is disabled today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 08/25/2008
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This is a prime example of how the nation is terrorised by those who want to control them!

This conduct underlines the urgent need for change, but only a united people can bring it about!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 08/25/2008

"the nation is terrorised by those who want to control them!


Sounds ominous. The DOJ should look into it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R6gcbC9Hz4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 08/25/2008

DOJ--Doesn't Oversee Jack

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 08/25/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Obama knows precisely who to ask!!! You can believe that!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 08/25/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 643 fans permalink
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the DOJ??????

puhleeeez!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 08/25/2008
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This is fun, the DOJ is d*mned if does and d*mned if it doesn't. There must be some lawyers with the DOJ who still believe in the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 08/25/2008
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