Sunday Hosts Under The Microscope At Pre-Convention Panel

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First Posted: 08-25-08 12:35 AM   |   Updated: 09-24-08 05:12 AM

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Sunday morning was business as usual on the networks, with Face The Nation, Meet The Press, and This Week performing their familiar weekly duties against the backdrop of the impending Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado. But a couple of hours after those shows were off the air, their hosts gathered in downtown Denver to subject themselves to a little scrutiny, courtesy of the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics, and Public Policy. Moderated by Judy Woodruff (with the same affable and capable guidance she puts to great use at News Hour), Tom Brokaw, Bob Schieffer, and George Stephanopoulos participated in a discussion that was frank, brimming with collegial humor, and filled with highlights.

Woodruff got immediately down to brass tacks, asking the panel how they would assess the campaign coverage in general. "Robust but uneven," offered Brokaw, who went on to assert that the country was much better served in this election cycle by the "wider screen" provided by the confluence of cable news and the internet. Schieffer averred that the coverage was "generally very good," but noted that the press tends to reflect the tenor of the campaign itself -- a theme he would come back to again and again. George Stephanopoulos noted how intense and rapid the news cycle has become: "Everything is covered, all of the time," and said the most difficult part of the job was working through the sheer abundance of campaign emails and blog posts.

Woodruff next asked the hosts to characterize the quality of coverage provided Hillary Clinton. Schieffer was the most succinct, calling it "fairly evenhanded." But Brokaw dissented, stating that he felt like things came to be "loaded up against her." There was "too much discussion of her needing to drop out of the race," Brokaw said, adding that these calls were "unfair and inappropriate in many instances."

Stephanopoulos felt differently, saying that a time came where it was simply "a fact that [Clinton] couldn't win," and that timing played a role in the coverage -- May was noticeably different from March. And as for perceptions of increased scrutiny, Stephanopoulos noted that the front runner draws the most fire.

Schieffer probably stated it best when he said that "we need to find a way to shorten [the primary] process."

Things got decidedly stickier when Woodruff asked if the key issues of the day had been given proper coverage. Brokaw said that without going back and taking "an inventory" of the past coverage, there was no way of really answering that question. There were twenty-two debates, and the candidates themselves could have initiated the discussion of issues.

Of course, this got me thinking about what a deficit the news consumer starts at when the celebrity face of a news organization asks the candidates about policy questions related to education, Iraq, energy policy, et cetera. Queries tend to solicit broad overviews with little depth. To me, a game-changing way of getting great issue coverage in politics would be to expand the exposure of specialized reporters. For example, reporters who cover education issues for a living are better suited to dig down into areas of vulnerability.

Stephanopoulos stated bluntly, "it's just not true that these issues are not being discussed." He's right, of course. They are being discussed, but in many cases, far from sight. Take the recent news out of Iraq, where withdrawal timetables are suddenly, plainly, a part of negotiations between the Bush and al Maliki governments. This development had its origins in a congressional hearing back in June, where Iraqi Parliamentarians began the steady push for U.S. withdrawal. To get that news, one had to turn to the Washington Independent. So far as I can recall, this story was not given much play in network or cable news. It was certainly never discussed on Sunday! But these hearings presciently bespoke the Iraq turning point we have arrived at today.

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The issue of issues behind them, the panel turned to more esoteric queries. Was there sexism or racism in the coverage of the Democratic primaries? Brokaw said, "I don't think [Clinton] was the victim of sexism. I just don't." Schieffer echoed Brokaw, literally: "I do not agree that sexism is more rampant in America than racism, I just don't." Stephanopoulos disagreed, suggesting that "sexism and ageism are more acceptable" than racism, noting that the comedians that populate his "Sunday Funnies" section, simply do not "have a handle" on how to lampoon Obama.

On the matter of John Edwards and Rielle Hunter, the panel split on whether or not they should have given the story more coverage. "We pressed our sources and couldn't report it," Stephanopoulos said simply. Schieffer went folksy on the matter: "A woman has a baby and says that fellow over there is the daddy and that fellow over there says I'm the daddy. That was pretty much it." Brokaw was more thoughtful, saying that the one "question he couldn't answer" was: would the press have gone after Romney or Giuliani as hard?

Brokaw's most puzzling moment came when discussing McCain's success, which he attributed to the candidate's "indomitable will." Brokaw opined that McCain won by simply being "the most authentic...he wasn't trying to reinvent himself." I encourage Mr. Brokaw to get to know that John McCain who ran for office in 2000!

The discussion grew even more electric when Woodruff threw the panel on the not-so-tender mercies of Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell, who disputed Brokaw's take on John McCain and proclaimed, simply, that the media does not do a good job covering the issues. But it wasn't long before Rendell proffered the quote of the session -- disharmonious words sure to spook the entire convention. "Ladies and gentlemen, the coverage of Barack Obama was embarrassing. He basically got a free pass."

Rendell was pretty specific in the network he was singling out -- MSNBC -- if not the precise personage who lay at the root of his objection. Let's just say that when Chris Matthews decides to run for office in Pennsylvania, he'd better not be counting on Rendell's support. Where Matthews is concerned, it's pretty clear that Rendell's "tingle" is somewhere behind his temples, and white-hot at that.

Sunday morning was business as usual on the networks, with Face The Nation, Meet The Press, and This Week performing their familiar weekly duties against the backdrop of the impending Democratic Natio...
Sunday morning was business as usual on the networks, with Face The Nation, Meet The Press, and This Week performing their familiar weekly duties against the backdrop of the impending Democratic Natio...
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- Bobrobert I'm a Fan of Bobrobert 9 fans permalink

If there is one thing "Rendell" hates... it is being on the losing side.

When Obama kicked the lady out of the race Rendell couldn't accept it.

Rendell is still looking for excuses - this one is the best - " I remember sniper fire in Bosnia."

Get a life and help elect Obama.

PS I smell something on fire in Denver!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 08/25/2008
- SlappHappy I'm a Fan of SlappHappy 15 fans permalink

HILLARY 2012!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 08/25/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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yeah, whatever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 08/25/2008
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 611 fans permalink
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She'll be lucky to still be in the Senate 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 08/25/2008
- jOke I'm a Fan of jOke 2 fans permalink

yeah... assuming we vote for her... lol...
assuming another women runs... lol...
assuming nothing will change from now till 2012...
assuming.. assuming.. assuming.. u fool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 08/26/2008
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 136 fans permalink
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The only way that is happening is if she splits with the Democratic Party and starts her own political party ("PUMA Party" has a good ring to it) where she can make and break the rules at will and promise all the bubbas out there anything to win. Good luck with that. Obama/Biden '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 08/26/2008

Any conference purporting to critique/analyze the media that lets Stephanopolous off the hook for the ABC debate is BOGUS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 08/25/2008
- elizaW I'm a Fan of elizaW 51 fans permalink

MSNBC was like a valentine to Obama. If that's what passes for journalism these days, it's no wonder people prefer to get their news on the internet. At least blogs don't pretend to be unbiased.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 08/25/2008
- Moka11 I'm a Fan of Moka11 14 fans permalink

Are you kidding??? All day bashing of Obama from 6am beginning with Scarborough/Buchanan tagteam peppered all day with MORE Buchanan and occasional Scarborough, with snubs from Race for the White House McCain lover David Gregory and then the "Who is this Guy" Chris Matthews who in one "chill up my leg" moment gave the "Hillary Squad" a reason to say MSNBC was in the tank for Obama.
Chuck Todd was way out in front in telling everyone that Hillary could not mathematically win. The Campaign and her surrogates were all liars from that moment on for me trying to convince, manipulate, and "snake oil" their game and MSNBC and Tim Russert called it over. But Rendell and Hillary and MaCauliffe and all the manipulators were continuing their game playing. Rendell still keeps it going. He is part of keeping the "outliars" fueled to not vote for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 08/25/2008

This is nothing but a bunch of pots and kettles calling each other black. A total waste of time. Listening to any of these fools is a total waste of time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 08/25/2008
- kylie I'm a Fan of kylie 28 fans permalink

Go cook up some vittles, drg42.

You are really into the imaginary pots and kettles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 08/26/2008
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I would like to know which members of McCains base (so-call journalist) attended the McCain barbeque and chicken-fry at on of the ten homes. I willing to bet that Tom Brokaw, Bob Schieffer, and George Stephanopoulos were there front and center.

Wonder shy they don't discuss how they have been covering up for McCains many, many flubs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 08/25/2008
- Opus007 I'm a Fan of Opus007 17 fans permalink

You are so right about that! McCain is a train wreck but the corporate controlled media continues to prop up their man! Don't want to lose those big fat paychecks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 08/25/2008
- Bluesue I'm a Fan of Bluesue 26 fans permalink

I hope that was a catharsis for him. That was not helpful to establish unity. Now he needs to either be helpful or shut up. This isn't the only thing he said. He shared that Hillary wants to run again. Now that makes people suspicious about how vigorously she'll campaign. Will she just be going through the motions to maintain her status in the party? I think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 08/25/2008
- zann I'm a Fan of zann 11 fans permalink

These people aren't our truth tellers, and brother do we need some. Their heads are too full of the voices of their corporate bosses, each other, and rich chums.

Plus, their memories suck. They forgot how Hilary spread self-serving half-truths about Barack Obama all over the country, smears that McCain picked up. We wanted her to stop not because she was a woman, but because she was creating an army of Hilary Democrats who still believe Obama unfairly stole the primary from her. Sure, she's on Obama's side now, but if he loses its partly because she smeared him for those extra weeks.

Our broadcast media are a vain, puffy, flock who don't derserve our trust or our airwaves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 08/25/2008
- elizaW I'm a Fan of elizaW 51 fans permalink

Obama did unfairly steal the primary, with the help of Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party. Let's not dwell on it but also let's not kid ourselves. It was a steal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 08/25/2008
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 611 fans permalink
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No, he won it with the help of my and millions of other votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 08/25/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 41 fans permalink

This is delusional B.S. But I've come to expect that from Hillary supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 AM on 08/26/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 38 fans permalink
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A steal is what bush & co. did in 2000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 08/26/2008
- foolchild0 I'm a Fan of foolchild0 5 fans permalink

Rendell is just another bitter Clinton zombie with an entitlement complex.

Could someone please make a video montage of the talking heads referring to Clinton's "perfect campaign" and her "inevitability" to shut these people up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 08/25/2008
- Moka11 I'm a Fan of Moka11 14 fans permalink

Rendell's remark is spot on if taken on face value and not the context it was meant. The endless loop of Rev. Wright, the media distortion of his 'cling to guns and religion remark, the medias endless continuing love lust and outright non-questioning, non-followup to John McCain gaffes, lies, mistruths, etc.
Yes, Hillary got some glaring bad media sometimes outright in it's sexism. But she mishandled her campaign and overspent and wants to be out of debt without her supporters help.
The Hillary Puma's and anti-Obama NObamas have a mission they seem determined to carry out. They seem to believe that they will keep Obama from getting elected so their girl can run in 2012. The problem is that if they are successful they ensure that Hillary is never elected in the future. The number of "Puma, No-bamas" is far less than the "No More Clintons" people that would be organized and triple disruptive if she makes a go for it again. .
We always need to be careful what we wish for don't we. Four more years of Bush/ McCain policies will bottom out this country. Let's not have McCain, please. Let's not completely destroy this party for decades. We need a Democratic President and 60 votes to back Democratic policies. It's that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 08/25/2008
- lapinbrim I'm a Fan of lapinbrim 15 fans permalink

Exactly, the coverage by the MSM was pathetic in the way they overacted to accusations about being biased towards Obama. One example I'd add to your comments is the piling-on ABC's two talking heads did during one of the last debates. It was outrageous. I don't let Obama off the hook on some of his poor debate performance, but the moderator's we not being fair and balanced, they were just trying to score got ya points.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 08/25/2008
- Opus007 I'm a Fan of Opus007 17 fans permalink

The only people in this country that think flag pins is a good indicator of ability of character are the Republican morons that voted for Bush twice. What stupid bullshit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 08/25/2008

Rendell needs to get a clue. Barack won the primary because he ran a superior campaign.

Checkout Roger Simon's article. Lengthy but worth the read.

http://www.politico.com/relentless/relentless.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 08/25/2008
- Moka11 I'm a Fan of Moka11 14 fans permalink

Betty23...thanks for that link....fascinating read and great insight to "Hillaryland".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 08/25/2008
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 38 fans permalink
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Thanks for the link. It was well written and concise. It was so refreshing to read something that is not biased, especially these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 08/26/2008
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Rendell can go %$@#$ himself. Was WRIGHT a "free pass"? Was BITTERGATE a "free pass"? GTFO Rendell. You're a stooge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 08/25/2008
- susangg I'm a Fan of susangg 2 fans permalink

Why is Rendell still whining about how his candidate, Hillary, was (allegedly) dun wrong, instead of complaining about how the press is giving John McCain a free pass, and ganging up on Obama? What party does Rendell belong to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 08/25/2008
- JMBrodie I'm a Fan of JMBrodie 280 fans permalink
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Why are we still having this discussion?

Like crabs in a barrel.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 08/25/2008
- Swerinjer I'm a Fan of Swerinjer 9 fans permalink

The media's treatment of Hillary was disgraceful. They owe her an apology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 08/25/2008
- soapington I'm a Fan of soapington 42 fans permalink
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Oh I agree. Until everybody apologizes to everybody else, nobody will be happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 08/25/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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The group hug/catharsis/support group meeting is scheduled for Wednesday. If this is a medical emergency, please call 9 1 1.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 08/25/2008

Point #1- When did Sen Obama get a free pass? The media spent weeks on Rev. Wright but only one night on Sen Clinton's sniper fib. That media Analysis report released a few weeks ago showed that he gets more coverage in general, but it's mostly negative. If that's a free pass then, I'll always pay my own way.

Point 2:-The media has been playing all of us. They have turned this election into a Dramatic Mini-Series. They use GOP talking points as the outline for half of the script and PUMA paranoia for the other. The media has become as bad as the Big Oil Corporations, willing to throw Americans under the bus for their own profit.

The Founding Fathers saw the Media as our first line of defense against tyranny, they believed that citizens of a Democracy needed the truth to govern ourselves and to protect ourselves from those we give power to. That's why our Constitution extends special protections to the press.

Providing "Truth to the people" is often the last thing that today's media seems to be concerned with.

FoxNews is a 24 hour McCain Commercial while the mainstream Media are cheerleaders for chaos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 08/25/2008

Well said! If you want to talk about embarassing and even downright criminal press coverage, let's talk about the lead-up to the Iraq war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 08/25/2008

They want to keep this race as close as possible to keep their jobs intact. If McCain were way ahead, they would probably scrutinize McCain more. Anything to keep people watching because they know many Americans can't think for themselves. Didn't a study show that Obama had more negative hits by the MSM than the other candidates? Considering that, it's a tribute to Obama that he has maintained his composure. The Republicans would be whining even louder than they are now if their candidate had as much scrutiny than Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 08/25/2008
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