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First Posted: 08-25-08 12:35 AM   |   Updated: 09-24-08 05:12 AM

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Sunday morning was business as usual on the networks, with Face The Nation, Meet The Press, and This Week performing their familiar weekly duties against the backdrop of the impending Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado. But a couple of hours after those shows were off the air, their hosts gathered in downtown Denver to subject themselves to a little scrutiny, courtesy of the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics, and Public Policy. Moderated by Judy Woodruff (with the same affable and capable guidance she puts to great use at News Hour), Tom Brokaw, Bob Schieffer, and George Stephanopoulos participated in a discussion that was frank, brimming with collegial humor, and filled with highlights.

Woodruff got immediately down to brass tacks, asking the panel how they would assess the campaign coverage in general. "Robust but uneven," offered Brokaw, who went on to assert that the country was much better served in this election cycle by the "wider screen" provided by the confluence of cable news and the internet. Schieffer averred that the coverage was "generally very good," but noted that the press tends to reflect the tenor of the campaign itself -- a theme he would come back to again and again. George Stephanopoulos noted how intense and rapid the news cycle has become: "Everything is covered, all of the time," and said the most difficult part of the job was working through the sheer abundance of campaign emails and blog posts.

Woodruff next asked the hosts to characterize the quality of coverage provided Hillary Clinton. Schieffer was the most succinct, calling it "fairly evenhanded." But Brokaw dissented, stating that he felt like things came to be "loaded up against her." There was "too much discussion of her needing to drop out of the race," Brokaw said, adding that these calls were "unfair and inappropriate in many instances."

Stephanopoulos felt differently, saying that a time came where it was simply "a fact that [Clinton] couldn't win," and that timing played a role in the coverage -- May was noticeably different from March. And as for perceptions of increased scrutiny, Stephanopoulos noted that the front runner draws the most fire.

Schieffer probably stated it best when he said that "we need to find a way to shorten [the primary] process."

Things got decidedly stickier when Woodruff asked if the key issues of the day had been given proper coverage. Brokaw said that without going back and taking "an inventory" of the past coverage, there was no way of really answering that question. There were twenty-two debates, and the candidates themselves could have initiated the discussion of issues.

Of course, this got me thinking about what a deficit the news consumer starts at when the celebrity face of a news organization asks the candidates about policy questions related to education, Iraq, energy policy, et cetera. Queries tend to solicit broad overviews with little depth. To me, a game-changing way of getting great issue coverage in politics would be to expand the exposure of specialized reporters. For example, reporters who cover education issues for a living are better suited to dig down into areas of vulnerability.

Stephanopoulos stated bluntly, "it's just not true that these issues are not being discussed." He's right, of course. They are being discussed, but in many cases, far from sight. Take the recent news out of Iraq, where withdrawal timetables are suddenly, plainly, a part of negotiations between the Bush and al Maliki governments. This development had its origins in a congressional hearing back in June, where Iraqi Parliamentarians began the steady push for U.S. withdrawal. To get that news, one had to turn to the Washington Independent. So far as I can recall, this story was not given much play in network or cable news. It was certainly never discussed on Sunday! But these hearings presciently bespoke the Iraq turning point we have arrived at today.

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The issue of issues behind them, the panel turned to more esoteric queries. Was there sexism or racism in the coverage of the Democratic primaries? Brokaw said, "I don't think [Clinton] was the victim of sexism. I just don't." Schieffer echoed Brokaw, literally: "I do not agree that sexism is more rampant in America than racism, I just don't." Stephanopoulos disagreed, suggesting that "sexism and ageism are more acceptable" than racism, noting that the comedians that populate his "Sunday Funnies" section, simply do not "have a handle" on how to lampoon Obama.

On the matter of John Edwards and Rielle Hunter, the panel split on whether or not they should have given the story more coverage. "We pressed our sources and couldn't report it," Stephanopoulos said simply. Schieffer went folksy on the matter: "A woman has a baby and says that fellow over there is the daddy and that fellow over there says I'm the daddy. That was pretty much it." Brokaw was more thoughtful, saying that the one "question he couldn't answer" was: would the press have gone after Romney or Giuliani as hard?

Brokaw's most puzzling moment came when discussing McCain's success, which he attributed to the candidate's "indomitable will." Brokaw opined that McCain won by simply being "the most authentic...he wasn't trying to reinvent himself." I encourage Mr. Brokaw to get to know that John McCain who ran for office in 2000!

The discussion grew even more electric when Woodruff threw the panel on the not-so-tender mercies of Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell, who disputed Brokaw's take on John McCain and proclaimed, simply, that the media does not do a good job covering the issues. But it wasn't long before Rendell proffered the quote of the session -- disharmonious words sure to spook the entire convention. "Ladies and gentlemen, the coverage of Barack Obama was embarrassing. He basically got a free pass."

Rendell was pretty specific in the network he was singling out -- MSNBC -- if not the precise personage who lay at the root of his objection. Let's just say that when Chris Matthews decides to run for office in Pennsylvania, he'd better not be counting on Rendell's support. Where Matthews is concerned, it's pretty clear that Rendell's "tingle" is somewhere behind his temples, and white-hot at that.

Sunday morning was business as usual on the networks, with Face The Nation, Meet The Press, and This Week performing their familiar weekly duties against the backdrop of the impending Democratic Natio...
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- captnEarl I'm a Fan of captnEarl 8 fans permalink
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For Gov. Rendell of Pa. Can you tell me what Obama said during the primary campaign about Billary that the republicans could be using in their ads? all their ads show Billary lying about Obama, she really played into their hands she is not a true democrat she is a clintoncrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 08/25/2008
- joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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Another child left behind heard from.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 08/25/2008
- aubrey8 I'm a Fan of aubrey8 5 fans permalink

captnearl another d...ass who doesn't want Obama to win.

you Obama folks would be wise to police your own people and their ignorant comments. you're not doing Obama any favors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 08/25/2008
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 66 fans permalink

Knee-jerk if you make your decision who to vote on based on anonymous posters on a blog, its you who are making ignorant comments.

Get a clue!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 08/25/2008
- DaOne I'm a Fan of DaOne 45 fans permalink
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Sounds like a bunch of "inside the beltway" type who have no interest what's going on in the country and no inclination to find out.

p.s. Rendell, wuss governor of all time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 08/25/2008
- Quipman I'm a Fan of Quipman 8 fans permalink

Once again I have said it once and I'll say it again the nation is in the middle of an generational shift and Ed is looking for everyone and anyone to blame for Hillary's lost but she got caught on the wrong side at the wrong time. Just because you can't see it on cable TV doesn't mean its not happening on . It's the reason why John McDollar is about to bite the dust on Nov. 4th. If you look hard enough Ed you will see it. Your just as blind as all the pundits in the MSM. I'm from Pittsburgh and Ed Rendell behavior towards Obama is just why so many young and middle age voters are fed up with his generation of politicians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 08/25/2008
- aubrey8 I'm a Fan of aubrey8 5 fans permalink

Once again we have another ignorant post frrom an ignorant person who either didn't read the article or didn't understand it.

Rendell was spot on with his comments about msnbc and if you can't admit that you're just lying to yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 08/25/2008

I agree aubrey8

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 08/25/2008
- burndtdan I'm a Fan of burndtdan 4 fans permalink
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Even Stephanopoulos admits it; the coverage for Clinton turned south when she had already mathematically lost the race. She only got constant negative coverage on MSNBC when she basically sent her people out on the news shows every day to lie.

"I'm winning the popular vote* !"
"This is a really close race!"
etc

*offer not valid in the following states that don't count...

There came a point where her every word was disingenuous at best, and downright deceptive at worst. She earned the negative coverage; she didn't even get the coverage she deserved, which would have been to have her surrogates laughed off the air.

I don't have anything against Sen. Clinton, but she lost. She lost because she ran a poor campaign. You can shift blame all you want, but no one is buying it. She wasn't the best candidate, she lost, get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 08/25/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 31 fans permalink

Hillary supporters have been lying since March....she couldn't possibly win at that point but she made her supporters believe she had a chance. The news media knew she couldn't win and they just kept the storyline going that it was a tight race. Now her supporters are acting like the typical scorn woman.

The media went on and on about the flagpin, is he a muslim, bittergate, argula, rev. wright, ayers, rezco, michelle's comments and Rendall has the nerve to say that the media gave Obama a pass......please, you people really have a problem with the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 08/25/2008

So true about the generational shift.
I've about had it with Mr. The Greatest (WAR) Generation Brokaw.

The South will also change to as the cost of living increases on the coasts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 08/25/2008
- Hughsie I'm a Fan of Hughsie 3 fans permalink

Jesus! Do these Clintonistas have enough SOUR GRAPES! You were the New England Patriots as 12 pt favorites and YOU LOST!! Get over it.Any Clinton voter who votes for McCain DESERVES 4 YEARS OF McBUSH!! Maybe McCain will pick RENDELL or HILARY. Would that make you happy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 08/25/2008

YEAH ASS HOLE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 08/25/2008
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 42 fans permalink

Ya know, butthead, it would be really swell if you pointed to all the remarks that identified which of the named pundits to be "Clintonistas". Enough with your "SOUR GRAPES" .... "we won but you people ain't bowing and scraping as we strut by."

Apparently you're too ignorant to recall all the hate aimed at the Clinton while Bill was running and then as president. And all the hate aimed at Senator Clinton as she prepared to run for the nomination. Believe me, poopy-boy, had the likes of Chris Matthews known Obama was going to run, and would win the nomination, Obama would now be sitting in a cell in GitMo, the false accusations would have been flying thick and fast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 08/25/2008
- kcmookie I'm a Fan of kcmookie 125 fans permalink
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Ignorance and recall are two different things. Your perception doesn't make you ingorant, it makes you pathetic. You have sipped so much Clinton koolaid and no longer can see reality with any clarity. You arguement is founded in the baseless "Clinton Victim Mentality".

Do you think Obama would be where he is at today if he sat around making excuses for himself because he is a biracial black man living in the white man's world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 08/25/2008

I'm sorry, but I agree with the "Sour Grapes"remark. It seems that Hillary Clinton has gotten over this, so the rest of her "supporters" should too. The primary is long over, get over it. As long as Barack Obama wins, we ALL win. That's a fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 08/25/2008
- PlantGod72 I'm a Fan of PlantGod72 46 fans permalink
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WHAT DO YOU WANT? IF you are a Democrat---IF you have any desire to see a

Progressive agenda moved forward---IF you would like to see our standing in the world

move back from the precipice we stand at---IF you are concerned about: our economy,

our judicial system, our military preparedness, having our personal freedoms

protected, moving our energy policy away from oil, our crushing manipulation by

corporatists and lobbyists---THEN you will STOP the nonsensical carping about how

Hillary and Bill are poor victims, and get to work because the time for this discussion is

NOT NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 08/25/2008
- OB08 I'm a Fan of OB08 8 fans permalink

How long is Brokaw going to host "Meet the Press?" I hope it's not long because he sucks big time. He is the worst one out of all the Sunday morning hosts. He does not do his homework. Olberman will kick butt in that spot because he is like the late Tim Russert...he does his homework.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 08/25/2008
- DMHendrix I'm a Fan of DMHendrix 103 fans permalink
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I agree! I really am quite surprised at how BAD he is in this forum. Between Brokaw and Buster, I have tuned out of MTP until they find a permanent replacement for Russert.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 08/25/2008
- DaOne I'm a Fan of DaOne 45 fans permalink
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Bring in Chuck Todd, he's pretty switched on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 08/25/2008
- burndtdan I'm a Fan of burndtdan 4 fans permalink
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Chuck Todd would do well, but he doesn't strike me as wanting to host a show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 08/25/2008
- kylie I'm a Fan of kylie 27 fans permalink

"Switched on" to the Republican agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 08/26/2008
- captnEarl I'm a Fan of captnEarl 8 fans permalink
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He is a has been needs to retire. He's put on a pedestile. But probably the dancing with Rove idiot Gregory will probably get the job if so I won't be watching.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 08/25/2008

Does credibility mean anything to you OBo8?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 08/25/2008

"Rendell proffered the quote of the session -- disharmonious words sure to spook the entire convention. "Ladies and gentlemen, the coverage of Barack Obama was embarrassing. He basically got a free pass." "


Which is why no one has ever heard of Reverend Wright, or Ayres, or looked into rumors about Rezcko, or whether Obama deserved to be called "Professor", or reviewed his publications going all the way to Obama's college days, or kept an eye on him during his foreign tour. Nor has anyone pointed out his Fisa vote, his 57 states gaffe, dissected his choice of vacation spot, etc, etc .

This as opposed to the hard-hitting analysis of McCain's belief that Putin rules Germany; that Iraq borders Pakistan; there there is no difference worth noting between Sunni and Shia. Not to mention the way the press has torn into McCain's history of creating propoganda for the North Vietnamese during his "heroic" stay in their country; his absolutely inscrutable turnabout from champion of MIA's to being the one man who blocked the way to full disclosure of their plight; his 180 degree policy turnarounds on several dozen matters expected to affect the election.

Who is this guy, Rendell? Can someone buy him a newspaper?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 08/25/2008

Absolutely one of many of the Clinton tricks and sleaze at this convention!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 08/25/2008

Yeah, to add to your list, HUFFNAME, we heard nothing of Obama's bowling score, his choosing orange juice, his questions about arugula, his supposed snub of Hillary, his supposed "flipping off" at Hillary, his "present" votes, his blackness, his whiteness, his "otherness", that he can't win over Blacks, Hispanics, Whites, Catholics, and Appalachia. It just goes on and on and on.

Free pass? No. He's just a superior candidate. Deal with it, haters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 08/25/2008
- LisainNYC I'm a Fan of LisainNYC 10 fans permalink

Great post, huffname.

(Great screen name, too.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 08/25/2008
- Triciann I'm a Fan of Triciann 3 fans permalink

Ed Rendell was so partisan during the primary in Pennsylvania. Rendell put his all behind Clinton as did many of the local DEM committees. That was his choice but to criticise others is somewhat hypocritical. Chris Mattews was not always complimentary towards Obama and there was an enormous amount of negative media coverage of Obama in April and May.
Rendell is so close to the Clintons, in fact he owes them because they got him the governor's job in PA. Remember Hillary's words, "shame on you Barack Obama". She made them. She had no right, it was purely political. Barack Obama did not treat Hillary Clinton in such an unfair way. Hillary Clinton was extremely rude when she made fun of Obama supporters with her "and the sun will shine", etc comments. I take that personally. She was insulting every person who voted for Barack. I left one monarchy, the Clintons are trying to turn America into one again, even talking about Chelsea getting in line (in line to the throne that is).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 08/25/2008
- mesut I'm a Fan of mesut 4 fans permalink

Does Rendell speak that the coverage was positive coverage or the coverage overall. To my way of thinking negative coverage is no better than coverage overall. I didn't see the MSM doing any favors for Obama because they have truly sliced and diced him. I wish they would have given McCain the same treatment because I would love to see his feet held to the fire regarding his "true" views on issues that concern Americans and I'm not just talking about being a POW or Foreign Policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 08/25/2008

The media was afraid of Obama. No one wanted to be labeled a racist, which seemed to happen everytime someone leveled any critizism at Obama. So they didn't do their jobs and he got a free ride while Hillary was picked over like a fresh kill thrown at some very hungry animals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 08/25/2008
- kylie I'm a Fan of kylie 27 fans permalink

The media is afraid to anger Corporate--they go easy on McCain and do what the big bosses dictate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 08/26/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

Obama is the one who wants to increase taxes on companies that take jobs out of America
Obama is the one who wants to renegotiate NAFTA so it is fairer to American workers
Obama is the one saying get out of Iraq so we don't kill off all our boys and girls while refusing them good medical treatment at home and so we don't spend billions supporting their infrastructure while ours is falling to bits
Obama is the one saying tax cuts for the middle class and senior citizens
Obama is the one saying UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE
Obama is the one supporting labor ( the workforce) not the BIG BUCKS owners like WALMART who pay the absolute minimum and try to rip off disabled workers
Obama is the one who is trying to get American kids a good education across the board and into COLLEGE
Obama is the one giving REALISTIC college CREDITS to middle income families
Obama is the one who worked his way through school and paid back student loans
Obama is the one who knows what it is like to be on a budget
Obama is the one who has led a decent, moral live
Obama is the one who while deploring abortion does not see the need to criminalize women and doctors who make that difficult decision
Obama is the one who wants equal pay for women
Obama is the one who wants to run a decent campaign

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 08/25/2008
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 42 fans permalink

Kinda like FISA, huh? Oh, and the war ... "against it" but funds it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 08/25/2008

umm, funding support for the TROOPS who were sent (without a vote) to fight a war he was against is completely different...Would you prefer he didn't help fund the items to aid them so more of them could get killed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 08/25/2008
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You sure you're a "Liberal2"? Cuz you sure read like a repuke troll.

Every liberal I know, knows why Obama, like many of his fellow Democratic colleagues in the House and Senate, has continued to vote for funding for the war in Afghanistan and the Iraq Occupation.

Only those backing "4 More Years of Disaster" don't have a clue (that's what they get for watching Fixed News and listening to Lumpballs on the radio) and who still propagate the "Obama is against the occupation (the Iraq war is over, Libby2, ask the pResident himself if you don't know it) but still votes to fund it" soundbyte.

He explained why. Perhaps you're still waiting for him to call you personally? Pretty pompous of you to think you're that important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 08/25/2008
- vsign I'm a Fan of vsign 34 fans permalink

O is the One. O is O. SOS.

The Thin Man with the thin resume has a thin veil that needs yanking off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 08/25/2008
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... and V is for the Vsign who just yanks off his thinly veiled manhood too much!!!

Just wait there ... Billy will be back with a towel for you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 08/25/2008

Right now, the only discussion going on is about HRC. This is not her time and why is it that MSM is so focus on the Clintons. I have turned off MSM today. I will be watching CSPAN this afternoon. Why is it that MSM is running all of McCains negatives ads over and over and then ask what do Obama need to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 08/25/2008
- mesut I'm a Fan of mesut 4 fans permalink

I think I'll do the same thing. It's really sad that even during this week the MSM can't find anything positive to say. It's funny the media sees all this so different than those they are reporting this foolishness to. I am one American that McCain nor the media speak for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 08/25/2008
- DMHendrix I'm a Fan of DMHendrix 103 fans permalink
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I think all mainstream media outlets and their pundits suck! All of their sensationalistic rhetoric and tabloid styles attribute to "low-information voters" having really BAD information. They are irresponsible and they are lazy. I don't know if I have ever seen so much un-checked information being dumped on the public. Worse yet, is that people stand around lapping it up like thirsty puppies and don't question it.

In a jury trial, when one attorney says something completely outrageous that totally throws the process for a loop and the other side objects; the judge eventually tells the jury to ignore it and strikes it from the record. By that time its too late. The seed has been planted...intentionally. That is EXACTLY what some of these bottom-feeding, low-intelligence, and lack of morals & ethics bunch of political pundits do.

Asking this bunch to self-evaluate is a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 08/25/2008
- jeffp26 I'm a Fan of jeffp26 29 fans permalink
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Actually, a respected site like this pretending Eddie Rendell is newsworthy is my definition of EMBARRASSING.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 08/25/2008
- loax I'm a Fan of loax 20 fans permalink

Anyone who watched these primarys know that in the cold, hard light of day, McCain and clinton were given a free pass to eviscirate their opponents. I was dissapointed in both of them, and especially their campaign staffs. The respectful campaign went out the window in February for both of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 08/25/2008
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"A free pass"? Maybe Rendell should read up on the study that shows that over 75% of media coverage of Obama was negative while McCain skates with less than 50% negative coverage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 08/25/2008
- JD294 I'm a Fan of JD294 16 fans permalink

I think he was talking about the primary and versus Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 08/25/2008
- jnutlfam2 I'm a Fan of jnutlfam2 9 fans permalink

Really?? Did he forget about the constant barrage of Rev Wright that we had to undergo?
NONE of the media gave O a "free pass" on that. Neither did HRC or Rendell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 08/25/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

POOR RENDELL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 08/25/2008

I'll say that they definitely picked on Hillary more during the primary, but since then its been embarrassing watching them "try to make up for it" by hammering Barack using Fox's GOP talking points which are mostly all fraudulent and baseless. On Top of that they have done Nothing to Expose McCain's constant stream of Untruths, Lies, Gaffes, hippocrisy, lack of character, lack of integrity, using POW and military experience as a qualification to be President...?? etc etc, that list could go on forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 08/25/2008
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