Here's Why I Am With Joe Biden

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First Posted: 08-27-08 03:37 AM   |   Updated: 09-26-08 05:12 AM

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Karl Miller -- a terrific blogger and thinker who I've been fortunate enough to get to know through my extracurricular activities -- has got a post up about Delaware Senator and vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, that's worth a long look in advance of his speech tonight at the Democratic National Convention. In it, Miller reflects on a key moment in Biden's recent past that deserves highlighting.

Enter Joe Biden. I remember feeling instant admiration for the man when, channel-surfing four years ago, I saw him in a C-SPAN clip (is there any better way to catch C-SPAN?). It was during one of his Judiciary Committee hearings and he was smacking around John Ashcroft for defending Abu Ghraib. At the time, there wasn't much of a formal debate about torture. This was well before Cheney attempted publicly to codify torture and toss out the Geneva Conventions. The theatrical sadists of Abu Ghraib were defended and dismissed as bad-apple frat house kids. And unlike Cheney's subsequent row with Congress, there was no specific policy at stake and therefore no focal point for sustained discussion. We swallowed the shame and re-elected Bush. But for a brief moment, our cruelty and hypocrisy were held in lyric suspension by the most powerful image to cross the national Imaginary since the panoramic hellscape of 9/11...


Joe Biden was one of a few people to correctly intuit and loudly decry the basic moral failure of Abu Ghraib. Instead of making it another pissy bullet point for Bush's managerial incompetence, he made it a deeply personal issue of right and wrong. As the father of a soldier, he knew that the horrors of Abu Ghraib now gave the enemy license to practice the same indignity on his son. Held to this fatherly imperative, the Bushies didn't look tough or confident anymore -- they looked like pube-less bullies playing dress-up with dad's clothing.

The clip that Miller is referring to was one I don't think I'll ever forget. Biden was straight righteous that day, barely keeping his anger at the diseased reign of torturing brigands that have so sullied the name of this great nation in check. Up to that moment, I'll admit, I harbored my fair share of misgivings about the man. But against the backdrop of Abu Ghraib, and the plain truth of Biden's words, I couldn't hold those misgivings anymore. They seemed extremely petty. And you know what? Compared to the grievous sin of torture -- committed in our name, endangering our fighting men and women -- they were.

Jon Stewart knew that attention must be paid:

That's the man that you'll see speaking tonight on the convention floor. He's the guy Barack Obama picked for the campaign against the man who never lets you forget how he got tortured, all the while hoping you'll not remember how he punked out when his moment came to say: "No way, no how, no torture." For all the talk that he's the sort of guy who might say the wrong thing, on this regard, Joe Biden is speaking very loud and clear. Tell your friends.

Karl Miller -- a terrific blogger and thinker who I've been fortunate enough to get to know through my extracurricular activities -- has got a post up about Delaware Senator and vice presidential nomi...
Karl Miller -- a terrific blogger and thinker who I've been fortunate enough to get to know through my extracurricular activities -- has got a post up about Delaware Senator and vice presidential nomi...
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- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 74 fans permalink

Joe Biden is the real deal. I have admired him for many years. Of all the candidates on the stage during the primaries, my second pick, over Obama was Biden. I could never understand why he didn't connect with voters. He's fair, he's honest (sometimes brutally so), a family man, extremely intelligent and is the most courageous man on Capitol Hill. And he don't take no sh...stuff!! I was literally praying that O would pick him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 08/27/2008

I was home on 9/11. Every network latched onto Biden. He was anazing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 08/27/2008
- cosmic I'm a Fan of cosmic 9 fans permalink

i guess you just know everything don't you :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 08/27/2008
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O for President! Then he can declare every member of the Bush admin Enemy Combatants...and perhaps a little trip to Cuba for the lot of them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 08/27/2008
- hotstuff I'm a Fan of hotstuff 5 fans permalink

Mccains lieing ad's says " Dem's never have to say your sorry again" , open season on Mccain!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 08/27/2008

i love joe.... i really wanna see him snap on mccain sooo badly... i just hope the BO camp doesn't have to go around saying they're sorry for everything cause that was getting old during the primaries. just own up to it. people. bo/jb 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 08/27/2008

"As the father of a soldier, he knew that the horrors of Abu Ghraib now gave the enemy license to practice the same indignity on his son."

As the mother of a soldier who has toured Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, I am thrilled to have the decent, forward-thinking Joe Biden as Obama's VP pick.

Barack is correct: "BIDEN GETS IT!"

NO WAY...NO HOW...NO McCAIN!

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 08/27/2008
- RRonin I'm a Fan of RRonin 19 fans permalink
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Joe was my first choice for VP early on in the primaries and he remains my choice today. More proof of what a smart guy Obama is. He doesn't want to live in an echo chamber.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 08/27/2008
- Citizen54 I'm a Fan of Citizen54 19 fans permalink

Biden was right on that issue, but seriously wrong on the Bankruptcy "Reform" Act, which affects more working class people than our torture policy. The legislation is draconian, and it was engineered on behalf of lenders. Oddly, Biden's son is a lobbyist for the credit card industry. I've followed Biden's career since he was elected to the Senate. Before this bankruptcy bill, I liked him. He might be the junkyard dog Obama needs, but he is no friend of working stiffs (except for those who work in the lending industry). Meet the new boss.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 08/27/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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what's wrong with my prior comment. do you guys even read the pending comments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 08/27/2008
- heal57 I'm a Fan of heal57 27 fans permalink

suzy, I've had 113 comments deleted in my short time n HuffPo. I don't understand it either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 08/27/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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I'm up to 500 deleted!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 08/27/2008

This is a man of pure conviction and integrity. I'm sooo glad Joe Biden was picked for the veep slot. I look forward to his impassioned speech this eveing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 08/27/2008

go on joe!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 08/27/2008

Johnay was against torture before he was for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 08/27/2008
- MsMontana I'm a Fan of MsMontana 8 fans permalink
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Can't wait to see who Joe gets to chew up and spit out in the VP debates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 08/27/2008
- dRwOOD I'm a Fan of dRwOOD 10 fans permalink
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I bet he's "chomping @ the bit", so to speak

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 08/27/2008
- OKF I'm a Fan of OKF 8 fans permalink
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Biden will kick ass in any debate. It's Obama I'm worried about.

Obama will obviously KO McSame on the merrits. But I fear even though Obama is sure to give a smack down, and win on all points and policy, McCain will come out of debates declared "The Winner" by stupid ass pundits saying he "connects", just as he he did at the Crazy Christian Church a couple weeks ago.

Obama needs to learn how to sharpen his attacks, and hit hard.

All these people say they can't wait for the "debates", but I'm dreading them. I love Barack Obama. I love to her him speak, give speeches, and he has great ideas etc. But even in Primaries he was rarely exciting to listen to debate. He's like John Kerry with a little bit of "cool".

Biden, on the other hand... CAN't WAIT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 08/27/2008

This is one of the reasons I admire Joe Biden. The Dems need to hit McCain on this issue.
Joe can do it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 08/27/2008
- CarolW2 I'm a Fan of CarolW2 3 fans permalink

I have admired Joe Biden for many years. He's an excellent choice for Obama. What a ticket they make! I can hardly wait for the debates.

Obama/Biden 2008!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/27/2008
- lennix I'm a Fan of lennix 6 fans permalink

go get them joe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 08/27/2008
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