Some Conservatives Air Concerns Over Palin

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First Posted: 08-31-08 04:29 PM   |   Updated: 10- 1-08 05:12 AM

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The McCain campaign's desperate gamble on Sarah Palin, aimed at reversing the Arizona senator's downward spiral, has met with decidedly mixed reaction from a key target constituency: conservatives.

Much of the commentary on the right has run from the favorable to the ecstatic.

"Republicans were demoralized," wrote the Weekly Standard's Fred Barnes. "Sarah Palin changed all that. She was not only a surprise choice but also an electrifying one, and her selection has far-reaching implications. Her entry will change the nature of the presidential race. And if the McCain-Palin ticket wins, it has the potential to carry Republicans through a rough patch and even ensure conservative dominance of the party--for years to come."

Mark Steyn, in turn, contends in the National Review that Palin is not just "'all-American', but hyper-American. What other country in the developed world produces beauty queens who hunt caribou and serve up a terrific moose stew?... Next to her resume, a guy who's done nothing but serve in the phony-baloney job of 'community organizer' and write multiple autobiographies looks like just another creepily self-absorbed lifelong member of the full-time political class that infests every advanced democracy."

McCain and his supporters made the surprise choice of Palin after examining their prospects in all the battleground states and concluding that they face strong odds of losing unless radical steps are taken to shift the political momentum. They had no data to show that Palin would dramatically alter the playing field in McCain's favor, but they knew that she would provoke the kind of controversy that can be a "game-changer."

On the plus side, Palin could wake up the Republican base, especially social issue conservatives, many of whom have been lukewarm toward McCain. In addition, Palin could appeal to some Hillary Clinton backers still nursing wounds from her defeat. On the down side, however, are the dangers that Palin's hard-core social conservatism will alienate moderate Republicans and independents, and that her brief tenure as Alaska Governor makes a mockery of McCain's charge that Obama lacks the experience to be president.

While the applause for Palin among conservatives has been loud and long, there are prominent, articulate dissenters, including columnist Jonah Goldberg; former counsel to Dick Cheney Shannen Coffin; National Review senior editors Rick Brookhiser and Ramesh Ponnuru; and former Bush speechwriter and columnist David Frum.

"McCain's supporters argue that he is more serious about national security than Barack Obama. But the selection of Sarah Palin invites the question: How serious can he be if he would place such a neophyte second in line to the presidency?" Frum asks. "So this is the future of the Republican party you are looking at: a future in which national security has bumped down the list of priorities behind abortion politics, gender politics, and energy politics. Ms. Palin is a bold pick, and probably a shrewd one. It's not nearly so clear that she is a responsible pick, or a wise one."

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"Either McCain thinks the war on terror isn't serious, or he thinks the vice-presidency isn't," Brookhiser argues. "We have shown the same color-by-numbers mindset that liberals did when they rallied to Obama. Liberals love Obama because he is a Numinous Negro. Conservatives love Palin because she has a Downs baby and an M-16. For both sides, that is all on earth ye know and all ye need to know. You might call it mystical and childish. May I be so wrong that a hundred harpies will pluck my eyeballs."

"The choice also says a lot about McCain. First, that he is a bit desperate," Coffin writes on the National Review site The Corner. "Second, that he is one arrogant SOB. McCain is essentially telling the world that he doesn't really need a Vice President.... Rather, the Office would seem poised to return to the 'proverbial warm bucket of p***' category."

Goldberg is less critical than openly worried: "It all comes down to whether Palin holds up under intense scrutiny. If it looks like this was purely a stunt, then McCain's critics will be right that his "country first" mantra rings a bit hollow. If, on the other hand, she proves to be as impressive as she seems, no one will care about how small Wasilla is. All I can say is I hope McCain's vetters did their job."

Ponnuru, in turn, raised a laundry list of doubts:

"Inexperience. Palin has been governor for about two minutes. Thanks to McCain's decision, Palin could be commander-in-chief next year. That may strike people as a reckless choice; it strikes me that way.....To the extent the experience, qualifications, and national-security arguments are taken off the table, Obama wins. And it's not just foreign policy. Palin has no experience dealing with national domestic issues, either....Tokenism. Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?"

All of Palin's conservative critics are respected and influential members of the movement. They are, however - at least publicly -- in the minority.

Conservative author and publicist Craig Shirley, who is often willing to criticize the GOP, told the Huffington Post that Palin is "both a daring and brilliant choice. McCain has given conservatives a reason to have a stake in this election."

Weekly Standard editor William (Bill) Kristol unleashed his pen in Palin's behalf:

"A spectre is haunting the liberal elites of New York and Washington--the spectre of a young, attractive, unapologetic conservatism, rising out of the American countryside, free of the taint (fair or unfair) of the Bush administration and the recent Republican Congress, able to invigorate a McCain administration and to govern beyond it. That spectre has a name--Sarah Palin, the 44-year-old governor of Alaska chosen by John McCain on Friday to be his running mate. There she is: a working woman who's a proud wife and mother; a traditionalist in important matters who's broken through all kinds of barriers; a reformer who's a Republican; a challenger of a corrupt good-old-boy establishment who's a conservative; a successful woman whose life is unapologetically grounded in religious belief; a lady who's a leader."

The cold reality is that all analysts of the right will, over time, calibrate their assessment of Palin as the political fates of McCain and Obama become clearer. If McCain wins -- or even if he loses but the conservative base turns out in force -- the choice of Palin will be vindicated. If not, the huntress/beauty queen/mother-of-five will go the way of most losing vice presidential candidates, soon forgotten.

The McCain campaign's desperate gamble on Sarah Palin, aimed at reversing the Arizona senator's downward spiral, has met with decidedly mixed reaction from a key target constituency: conservatives. M...
The McCain campaign's desperate gamble on Sarah Palin, aimed at reversing the Arizona senator's downward spiral, has met with decidedly mixed reaction from a key target constituency: conservatives. M...
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- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 255 fans permalink
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Palin is one strong woman !

Ask your wife if she could do what Palin did.

Palin surprised her staff when she announced that she was 7-months pregnant at age 44, even though she showed no sign of being pregnant.

Approximately 1-month later, just before a scheduled speech in Dallas-Fort Worth, she announced that her water had broken and, instead of going to a hospital, she delivered the speech and returned to her home in Alaska.

A trip that involves approximately 6 to 7 hours of flying time -- not counting time spent waiting in airports, including Seattle, where she caught a connecting flight to Anchorage, and time spent driving 45-miles to her home in Wasilla.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 09/02/2008
- Opus007 I'm a Fan of Opus007 17 fans permalink

So how does any of that qualify her to be VP? If something happened to Obama we would have Joe Biden. If something happened to McCain (which is a concern considering his age) we would have Palin. Yikes! All his choice shows that he is no maverick- he totally kowtowed to the Religious Right.

I think people are getting tired of being force fed religion from the White House. This country is facing immense problems we need separation of church and state. The last thing we need is unqualified ideologues like Monica Goodling in the White House. .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 09/02/2008

That is not the defination I would use. It seems to me rather poor judgement, that baby was in danger. She chooses her political career over safe and sound. No thanks, we don't need anyone so dumb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 09/02/2008
- gopindrag I'm a Fan of gopindrag 3 fans permalink

Poor judgement, how's that fit with a heartbeat away from the hot seat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 09/02/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 8 fans permalink

A liberal internet site questions even that the Palin was pregnant and that the daughter was the mother of that 5th son. They have pictures too. But so far nobody but internet bogs are buying it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 09/02/2008

I'm still waiting to come back to this thread and find it updated with conservatives actually criticizing her.

Its quite amazing how they are all standing behind her, I would have thought at least some of the economic or foreign policy conservatives would be upset, but they aren't.
I guess everyone who is still a republican is a moral crusader type now. How sad

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 AM on 09/02/2008

Don't think McCain wanted a VP pick where the Democrats could run the footage like the Republicans did of Biden questioning Obama. I know....LOL..the obvious...LOL....OK - here's the question of the day... To everyone with an opinion about this upcoming Presidential Election: Which Presidential Candidate do you think the enemies of the U.S. want as President?-----Greg-----http://us.imdb.com/name/nm2734923/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 09/01/2008
- skantea I'm a Fan of skantea 13 fans permalink
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They want McCain...who better to overreact to their saber rattling?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 09/02/2008
- Nicolaus I'm a Fan of Nicolaus 9 fans permalink

WILLIAM KRYSTOL NOW PLAGIARIZING KARL MARX....

"A specter is haunting the liberal elites..."

The phrase sounds remotely familiar. The Internet (that incredible tool) suggests that it is the first sentence too of the Communist Manifest:

"A specter is haunting Europe--the specter of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this specter: Pope and Czar, Metternich and Guizot, (1) French Radicals and German police spies..."

Well, well, well... Back to his father's younger but darker days when the supremacy of a particular 'race' was limited to the bourgeoisies, like myself...

May be Mr. Krystol Jr. is turning Marxist on us in his NYT days?

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 09/01/2008
- Fernando I'm a Fan of Fernando 26 fans permalink
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I noticed that too! And how I love the other irony; Republicans trying to kiss Hillary Clinton's ring to get her voters. Just goes to show you that when one polarizes on a position it comes back to haunt us. Kristol plagiarizing Marx and Republicans genuflecting to Clinton. I love it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 09/01/2008
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 86 fans permalink

Hillary Clinton embraced it -- and would not have made nearly as good a showing without Republican support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 09/01/2008
- kallisti7 I'm a Fan of kallisti7 4 fans permalink

hey knuckleheads, I despise Kristol (nor Kystol) too. But he made an allusion to Marx, he didn't plagiarize him. Just saying. It's, like, extremely common in journalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 09/02/2008
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 150 fans permalink
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What's the fuss about? She can be at least as good a president as Bush! She can also glance at Putin's soul, select her own Dr. Evil as VP, start a war with Iran or better yet Russia (maybe both). The American sheeple will just fall in line behind their new commander-in-chief. Doesn't that fit perfectly with the millenarian crowd?

My friends, I miss Tricky Dick!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 09/01/2008
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they will fall in line so they can set up the whole "WE ARE VICTIMS OF MEAN OLD DEMOCRATS" story line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 09/01/2008
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I remember being so disappointed when the NYT took Kristol aboard. Now I think I'm beginning to see how it's paying off: let this popular conservative keep humiliating himself in the widest-circulated newspaper in the country - that way, we can harbor no illusions about the reason-challenged position of conservatives.
Brilliant, I say! Brilliant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 09/01/2008
- dbawden I'm a Fan of dbawden 4 fans permalink
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Perhaps the unease is similar to the one when Bush asked his base to "trust him" on his Harriet Meyers pick for Supreme Court.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 09/01/2008
- realtalk I'm a Fan of realtalk 13 fans permalink

John McCain claims he picked Sarah Palin, (By the way, after only meeting her ONCE) because Sarah Palin had opposed the building of the "bridge to nowhere" in Alaska. WELL it turns out that Sarah Pulin wanted the bridge built, she DID NOT oppose building the brigde.

- While running for governor in 2006 Sarah Palin backed federal funding for the infamous "BRIDGE TO NOWHERE". --- The Anchorage Daily News quoted Sarah Palin in October 2006 as saying she would continue state funding for the bridge. "The window is now, while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist," Sarah Palin said.

- Sarah Palin also hired a Washington lobbying firm that helped secure $8 million in congressionally directed spending projects, known as earmarks, according to public spending records compiled by the watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste and lobbying documents.

SO JOHN McCAIN CHOSE AS A VICE PRESIDENT A PERSON WHO WANTED TO BUILD THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE built, with federal funding!

JOHN McCAIN CHOSE AS A VICE PRESIDENT A PERSON WHO HIRED A WASHINGTON LOBBYING TO GET EARMARKS FOR HER TOWN.

All these revelations just go to show you how irrational, and irresponsible a person John McCain is to have picked a Vice President he knows nothing about, and had ONLY MET ONCE!!

John McCain has shown that he is uninformed, irratonal, and irresponsible!!! John McCain IS NOT the type of person we need as a president of this country!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 09/01/2008
- nubret2008 I'm a Fan of nubret2008 13 fans permalink
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If you wath these figures http://www.gop.mfbiz.com/#/newpalinbidenpoll/4530692820 'Some conservatives air concerns' is totally underestimated...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 09/01/2008
- Paul Peete - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Paul Peete 396 fans permalink

Anyone see that RNC convention site? Big Flag, small ideas. Small Veep candidate.
With Gustav and Bush and McCain playin footsie, by the end of the convention, the giant flag will morph into a flagpin!
BOJB08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 09/01/2008

Excuse me, but: NUMINOUS NE GRO? Really?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 09/01/2008
- BarackMan I'm a Fan of BarackMan 7 fans permalink
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huh?

Obama - Biden '08/12!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 09/01/2008

"Either McCain thinks the war on terror isn't serious, or he thinks the vice-presidency isn't," Brookhiser argues. "We have shown the same color-by-numbers mindset that liberals did when they rallied to Obama. Liberals love Obama because he is a Numinous Ne gro."

I was just a little put off by that. We have been told for months that the only reason we were voting for BO was because he's black. Now, except for Brookhiser, it's A-OK to vote for a woman solely because she's woman.

But it's rude on two fronts to call BO some supernatural divinity type and to call anyone
Ne gro. A believe a group of people has the right to be called what they choose to be called. And we dismissed Ne gro a few decades ago.

That's all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 09/01/2008
- rascalcat I'm a Fan of rascalcat 7 fans permalink

Go back and read Bill Kristol's comments, (Last paragraph of article) and then ask yourself when was the last time he was even remotely close to being right. He is the George Costanza of political wonks. Whatever he says, turns out to be solidly wrong.

Sarah Palin is Dan Quayle in a dress, but sadly, probably less qualified.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 09/01/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

I'm wondering seriously if the guy is smoking the crack pipe when he writes such nonsense?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 09/01/2008
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The neo cons are circling Caesar McSame. Sarah Palin is not what they had in mind.

Guess McSame realized the ne cons were leading him to the incinerator along with the rest of the republican party. So McSame changed course. Good for him. He just might save his neck. Too bad he waited so long. Let's see if he can get away with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 09/01/2008
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I've always supported Obama. But now I get a peaceful easy feeling when I see his picture or see an article about him. Palin, McCain, Cindy and all that mess just makes me dizzy.

Imagine that...
Barak Hussain Obama being the soothing mellow candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 09/01/2008
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