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Anti-War Ad Brings Democratic Party Friction To Surface

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September 1, 2008 12:26 PM


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This past week provided another example of the frictions surrounding Democratic politicians, third party groups that support them, and messaging around the Iraq War.

On Friday, the anti-war group Vote Vets put out an ad in Maine that harshly criticized Republican Sen. Susan Collins' support of the war. The spot, which had $200,000 behind it and was narrated by a veteran, hit the Senator for being complicit in the wasting of federal dollars and lives in Iraq.

"Sen. Susan Collins just stood by and let all of this happen, and still is," says Iraq War veteran Alex Cornell du Houx. "I gave 100 percent in Iraq. I can't afford to give Iraq any more. Call Susan Collins and tell her we want our money back."

Soon after the ad's release, however, the candidate who stood to benefit, Rep. Tom Allen, condemned the spot.

"As the target of weeks of relentless false and negative attacks aired on TV and radio by allies of Senator Collins, Tom Allen knows that distortions such as these ads have no place in this race," said Carol Andrews, Allen's communications director. "Congressman Allen is the candidate in this race who three months ago set a standard for positive communications pleas from third parties. He asked Senator Collins to join him in that effort. That request was refused."

It is not uncommon for congressional and presidential candidates to criticize third-party efforts designed to help their cause. Usually, it is a means of taking the high road while still reaping any political benefits. Legally, they cannot ask that the spot be taken off air. But Allen's statement went still stung, casting the Vote Vet's ad as in the same vein as Republican counterparts ("distortions," as Andrews referred to them). And the congressman's reaction to the spot illustrates just how frustrating it has been in this election cycle for Democratic third party groups to operate.

Already, Barack Obama has implored donors to channel funds through the presidential campaign, in the process drying the well of resources for Vote Vets and other organizations. And while that stance may be softening, many Democratic operatives remain distraught over what they view as missed opportunities to keep Republicans on the defensive. Asked to comment about Allen's reaction to his group's ad, Vote Vets head John Soltz, noted the political implications of dissuading such efforts.

"We think Iraq Veterans, especially from Maine, have a right to have a voice in the debate and we think the veterans of the war are certainly more credible than a Washington politician like Susan Collins," he said. "Politicians have no right to silence their constituents, especially ones who have served their country like in combat like Alex."

UPDATE: Carol Andrews writes to clarify an earlier version of the article which said that the Allen campaign referred to the Vote Vets ad as a "distortion."

"To be clear," she writes, "we didn't say the ad was a distortion. That word was in reference to the barrage of false, negative attacks re EFCA running against us. We did not say the ad was a distortion, false or negative. We simply said that we stand by our three-month-old request for folks to keep it positive."

This past week provided another example of the frictions surrounding Democratic politicians, third party groups that support them, and messaging around the Iraq War. On Friday, the anti-war group Vot...
This past week provided another example of the frictions surrounding Democratic politicians, third party groups that support them, and messaging around the Iraq War. On Friday, the anti-war group Vot...
 
 

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- TheHandyman See Profile I'm a Fan of TheHandyman permalink

No one should be surprised about this. The Demowon'ts have been as complicit in this rape of our country as has the repugnicans! Neither party is spending anytime concerned about the People's business. They are doing the business of the wealthy elite to whom they owe their alligance. There is no such thing as the GWOT. The military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan cannot be won even if it were to bankrupt this country, which it surely will. Both parties are dragging us down the wrong path. McNsane is a looney and Obama is just another teller of tall tales.

I would bet my life savings that 8 months to a year after Obama is elected that the People will be as disappointed and disallusioned as they have by any other recent President. If you want real change, you have to look to Nader. He has what Americans really need and want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 09/02/2008
- FCBarca See Profile I'm a Fan of FCBarca permalink

Absolutely correct...Once Obama flipped on FISA, for me, the writing was well etched on the wall...We
stand to get more of the same at this point with Obama or McCain...Two sides, same coin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 09/02/2008
- freaktown See Profile I'm a Fan of freaktown permalink

well then i think vote vets should pull the ad and leave tom allen on his own...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 09/02/2008
- syllepsis See Profile I'm a Fan of syllepsis permalink

Democrats: pro-war, pro-corporation, and anti-American.
Only one negative got in there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 09/02/2008
- Bettysdad See Profile I'm a Fan of Bettysdad permalink

Democrats don't understand that the point is to win.

It doesn't matter how it's done.

Just blow Republicans away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 AM on 09/02/2008
- qwr See Profile I'm a Fan of qwr permalink

Hmm--hundreds of thousands dead, torture, concentration camp in Cuba--

Let's keep it positive folks, let's keep it positive. No need to bring in any negativity. Everything is going swimmingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 09/02/2008
- 111 See Profile I'm a Fan of 111 permalink

The Democrats aren't anti-war as a party. Just a guess but Rep. Allen probably intends to do like the majority of Dems and support whatever war and aggression we are involved in so he doesn't want that anti-war stuff to come back some day and bite him

Obama is promising to take combat troops out of Iraq but he wants to send more troops into Afghanistan. This is why the anti-war Iraq veterans were not permitted to read their letter on the podium at the Democratic convention. Dems have promised to continue the unending war on terrorism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/01/2008
- Ides See Profile I'm a Fan of Ides permalink

Most of the Democrats in Congress were against the Iraq War....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 09/02/2008
- blust8r See Profile I'm a Fan of blust8r permalink

Bless him for serving in a war that has no purpose or plan. (Other than oil and profit. None of which he will ever see.) I respect the congressman's decision, yet fail to see how it affects him other than turning people away from his opponent. She made the mistakes, she should pay... I TOTALLY agree!
As another has noted... let the pains of '68 be rained down on the rethugs... let them know they are alone... let them know they are without pity.
McSame and Putin... uh, Peyton... uh, Palin... want to serve their country. I suggest they do so in a purely advisory role... like retired in Sedona, or Wasilla. Maybe they'll be appreciated there!
Take the hockey mom home, JM... she's too young for you, and the 3-way makes me want to puke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 09/01/2008
- Ergon See Profile I'm a Fan of Ergon permalink

Anti-war? Vote Cindy Sheehan for Congress, throw Nancy Pelosi out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 09/01/2008
- MaryanneAZ See Profile I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ permalink

You people are nuts! You are blaming a very good person and politician for the fact that she has been hamstrung by the Republicans in getting needed legislation through the House. Look at the congressional record and you will see that many good bills died at the hands of Republicans. Pelosi cannot overcome the Republican brick wall. It is important now for us to grow the number of Democrats in the House so that a real agenda for America can be worked on and passed. Sheehan thinks she can overcome the reputation and experience of Pelosi is sadly mistaken. Let's stick to the facts and stop demonizing those representatives who are working hard to represent us. They deserve our support and respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 09/02/2008
- JohnnyRivers See Profile I'm a Fan of JohnnyRivers permalink

YES! Pelosi should be cut out of politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 09/01/2008
- geobushono See Profile I'm a Fan of geobushono permalink

Bring the war home...............The Democratic Party has never endorsed bringing the troops home.
they timidly propose...and then withdraw 'timetables', looing to the repugs to provide cover.
THIS is Exactly why some of us were in the streets in 1968........Neither Party is for Peace.........don't believe politician's rhetoric, believe their votes....that's all that counts.
Having said that,
Obama/Biden 08

Support Family Values, Vote Democratic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 09/01/2008
- foxflood See Profile I'm a Fan of foxflood permalink

Susan Collins, though, is a total political hack who ignores the will of her constituents and has backed the administration too often. She does it with a smile and puts a nice face on things, but underneath that, she's a terrible Senator. Maine would be better off, better served, with Allen, who communicates with his constituents well and listens to what they want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 09/01/2008
- 530Rose See Profile I'm a Fan of 530Rose permalink

Obama wants to keep to the high road. Well, OK, but this is NOT about Barack, it is about the future of our country. The Dem's should welcome other people doing some of their work for them. That leaves Barack to be conciliatory while getting straight up in the face of the GOP and their policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 09/01/2008
- Destin See Profile I'm a Fan of Destin permalink

That is an excellent post. And what is interesting about your post, consider the big party donors and corporate backers. And the #1 excuse that lobbyist use to excuse their buying of political favors.... they claim that the money is "free speech".

You've opened my eyes to the fact, that independent groups, like Vote Vets or MoveOn, they are simply excersizing their right to free speech too, right? I guess that's one way to look at it, and justify it. And if a candidate doesn't approve, point out in the ad that it doesn't matter if they approved of it. They don't speak for the people in the ad. Much like I don't like how politicians pretend to speak for me. ;)

Anyways, excellent point 530Rose!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 09/01/2008
- Destin See Profile I'm a Fan of Destin permalink

Why in the world would Allen be against the ad? Since when did telling the truth become taboo??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 09/01/2008
- foxfan See Profile I'm a Fan of foxfan permalink

As were the Swiftboat Vet ads. Why should they be stopped?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 09/01/2008
- TheHandyman See Profile I'm a Fan of TheHandyman permalink

Apparently you didn't get the memo or didn't know how to read it. All those so called facts turned out to have been made up. They were lies. That's why they ran them. So no comparison here. Time to get over it and support the country, not the right-wing destroyers of our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 09/02/2008
- Tommygun264 See Profile I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 permalink

The claims made in the Swiftboat Vet ads were proven untrue - only one of the vets featured in the ads ever even served with John Kerry and the one that did serve with him was not present at any of the incidents brought into question. You are either misrepresenting the facts (LYING) or you have chosen to remain willfully ignorant. If you want to embarrass yourself by repeating known lies, that's one thing, but don't insult our intelligence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 09/02/2008
- lisakaz2 See Profile I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 permalink

I wonder if the guy actually wants to win or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 09/01/2008
- Destin See Profile I'm a Fan of Destin permalink

lol, good point. It does make you wonder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 09/01/2008
- GaiusLucilius See Profile I'm a Fan of GaiusLucilius permalink

The Democrats have to learn: keeping it "nicey-nice" will not help you win.
I learned that this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 09/01/2008
- MaryanneAZ See Profile I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ permalink

Fact: Obama won the Primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 09/02/2008
- ProfessorDuh See Profile I'm a Fan of ProfessorDuh permalink

Everyone who died in Iraq has died for nothing, except maybe Halliburton's profits. That's one of the many truths Americans can't handle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 09/01/2008
- Podewumun See Profile I'm a Fan of Podewumun permalink

Halliburton, Bechtel, KBR, Blackwater...and every no-bid contract since January of last year has been signed off on by our Democratic-led Congress. I'm not inclined to cut the Blue Dog Dems any slack at all on this. NONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 09/01/2008
- Tommygun264 See Profile I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 permalink

Not true - that's why they are NO-BID contracts, meaning they are not reviewed or approved by Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 09/02/2008
- EspressoAtNoon See Profile I'm a Fan of EspressoAtNoon permalink

These Dems are terrified that this same criticism can also be levied at them for their complicity. Pelosi and Reed have done nothing, but take accountability off the table and continue to fund the war, so they're obviously going to pressure Congressmen like Rep. Tom Allen to condem an honest and articulate ad who uses the voice of a soldier who risked everything for this country.

I'm sick of these complicit Democrats. I think MoveOn and others should target BlueDogs and those who are voting against the progressive community on the issue most important to us. I don't care if that means Pelosi herself gets targeted. They all seem to forget that they work for us, not the other way around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 09/01/2008
- qwr See Profile I'm a Fan of qwr permalink

Pelosi voted against the war. Biden didn't. Give her some credit, and criticize the choice of Biden, the gaffe machine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 09/02/2008
- BCubedReg See Profile I'm a Fan of BCubedReg permalink

True, but to stifle the efforts of people like Kucinch, who is trying to hold the administration accountable through impeachment, makes Pelosi complicit to the crime. Get Rid of Her!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 09/02/2008
- thecanadian See Profile I'm a Fan of thecanadian permalink

This was an ad by an Iraq VET! They have every right to speak out no matter what party they rep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 09/01/2008