GOP Flails To Keep 'Experience' Issue Alive

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First Posted: 09- 1-08 04:23 PM   |   Updated: 10- 2-08 05:12 AM

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Back when the McCain camp was firmly pumping out oppo criticizing Barack Obama's experience, they knocked the Democratic nominee for never having been to Iraq or Afghanistan. And when Obama was poised to go to Iraq and Afghanistan, the McCain camp derided Obama for coming to strategic conclusions in advance of his arrival. And when Obama's trip turned into a smashing success, the McCain camp poked fun at how the trip was too successful. Somehow, America allowed this nonsense to happen.

But now that McCain has chosen Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his vice president, the "experience" argument has been torn into a million tiny little slivers. And that has forced McCain's surrogates to furtively scramble to pick up enough shreds with which to make some papier-mache.

One such surrogate was Lindsey Graham, out in force this Sunday, attempting to apply the new McCain alchemical hoodoo to Sarah Palin's lack of substantive foreign policy experience. ThinkProgress records the relevant exchange:

BLITZER: Has she met with world leaders like you have, like Biden has? Has she really gone around the world and done any of those things?


GRAHAM: I don't know where she's traveled to ... But it's not meeting people that matters. You know, President Bush met President Putin. And I don't think it matters just meeting people. You look at people's judgment.

One should note Graham's "I don't know where she's traveled to" statement, which is further proof that no vetting of Palin seems to have taken place.

Graham adds, "Governor Palin took on Ted Stevens. If she can take him on, she can take on the Russians." Graham also offered that bon mot on This Week, and at the time, I mused, "That's just the dumbest thing I have ever heard." After I wrote that, I thought better of it, and considered whether I may have been speaking prematurely. After all, just as Palin has enjoyed a coincidental proximity to Russia, I have five years experience living across the street from an Italian bodega, so maybe I have the sufficient experience to make delicious cannolis and just don't know it yet.

Unfortunately for Palin and Graham, however, I can now reassert the essential stupidity of that statement, because, as it turns out, Palin doesn't have that good a record where standing up to Ted Stevens is concerned:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin began building clout in her state's political circles in part by serving as a director of an independent political group organized by the now embattled Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens.


Palin's name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.," a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. The group was designed to serve as a political boot camp for Republican women in the state. She served as one of three directors until June 2005, when her name was replaced on state filings.

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Palin, an anti-corruption crusader in Alaska, had called on Stevens to be open about the issues behind the investigation. But she also held a joint news conference with him in July, before he was indicted, to make clear she had not abandoned him politically.

So, I'd say that Vladimir Putin has little to fear from America's Next Top Caribou Huntress.

Back when the McCain camp was firmly pumping out oppo criticizing Barack Obama's experience, they knocked the Democratic nominee for never having been to Iraq or Afghanistan. And when Obama was poise...
Back when the McCain camp was firmly pumping out oppo criticizing Barack Obama's experience, they knocked the Democratic nominee for never having been to Iraq or Afghanistan. And when Obama was poise...
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Graham placed a slippered foot in his mouth when answering Blitzer's question:

"But it's not meeting people that matters. You know, President Bush met President Putin. And I don't think it matters just meeting people. You look at people's judgment," chortled Graham.

That kind of says it all Princess Lindsay, don't ya think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 09/02/2008
- ohiodem250 I'm a Fan of ohiodem250 27 fans permalink

Sarah Palin = the new Thomas Eagleton. There is no way she makes it to November. She's getting creamed and she hasn't even opened her mouth besides the VP announcement rally. I can't wait to see her on Meet The Press or 60 Minutes. She will look absolutely clueless. Caribou in the headlights!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 09/02/2008
- Whatashame I'm a Fan of Whatashame 19 fans permalink
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WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. THEY"RE DOING IT AGAIN JUST LIKE 2000 and 2004.


People wake up. Can't you see what CARL ROVE is doing. Its about divide and conquer for the repu. They know they can not win on the issues that Americans are facing today so they create a diversion and stupid Americans are falling for it. Before you know it this election will be all about abortion not about the mortgage crisis, energy, the war, healthcare and the exploitation of the constitution.

WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. THEY"RE DOING IT AGAIN JUST LIKE 2000 and 2004.


People wake up. Can't you see what CARL ROVE is doing. Its about divide and conquer for the repu. They know they can not win on the issues that Americans are facing today so they create a diversion and stupid Americans are falling for it. Before you know it this election will be all about abortion not about the mortgage crisis, energy, the war, healthcare and the exploitation of the constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 09/02/2008

It's because McCain was a POW. Did you know that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 09/02/2008
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So now the Repubs want "change"..­.which is why their #1 guy voted with Bush 95% of the time...rii­iiight!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 09/02/2008
- waiguoren I'm a Fan of waiguoren 8 fans permalink
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She did take on Ted Stevens.

She took on the job as his chief fundraiser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 09/02/2008
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"If she can take on Ted Stevens she can take on the Russians".­.Really? She didn't take him on if I can recall from reading a previous article about her involvement with his PAC.

I use my judgement and common sense and say Lindsey Graham is droopy eyed LIAR.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 09/02/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

I simply cannot imagine why the O camp is encouraging this comparison of experience. He's running for president. She is not.

Every single discussion draws attention to that obvious fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 09/02/2008
- iluvsam I'm a Fan of iluvsam 17 fans permalink

And McCain has NO administrative experience either. He's running for President. Don't go there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 09/02/2008
- huffanatic I'm a Fan of huffanatic 2 fans permalink

Don't be childish. Isn't experience what McCain has been running his campaign on. If he dies she is going to take over

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 09/02/2008

hmm...so, according to your idiotic comment, Palin would have more experience than McSame himself!

you ARE full of horse manure...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 09/02/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

Yes she is! Do you really think that Mc'Cain will be in charge?
The man cannot even remember how many houses he owns!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 09/02/2008

Here's another woman idiot.....­.the VP takes over the presidency in a heartbeat. She does not need exprerience that why she is not to be questioned? Or was it double standard for your taste?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 09/02/2008
- DavidK08 I'm a Fan of DavidK08 8 fans permalink

GOP Gov.s don't seem like a good bet to me. The track record isn't that positive in recent years. There were enough morons to be fooled the last two times and look at the Gov. that we got.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 09/02/2008
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Oh oh! Can we please get an video of TuckerBounds being interviewed by CampbellBrown last night? Please, Please, Please... pretty please!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 09/02/2008
- evekendall I'm a Fan of evekendall 131 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 09/02/2008
- rcwblessed I'm a Fan of rcwblessed 15 fans permalink
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Here's a link to the CNN interview with Campbell Brown and Tucker Bounds. He was really scrambling for answers! It seems that Republicans have a "script" of standard answers that apply to whatever question is asked!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 09/02/2008
- rcwblessed I'm a Fan of rcwblessed 15 fans permalink
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OOPS!

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu.9MMb1IJg0B10lXNyoA?p=tucker+bounds+brown&fr=yfp-t-501-s&ei=UTF-8

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 09/02/2008

It's strange...­CNN has been asleep and dreaming about McCain so far, but it seems that this VP nomination and the scandals that have followed it have p!ssed them off. I think we've seen the point at which Republican absurdism is no longer acceptable to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 09/02/2008
- Whatashame I'm a Fan of Whatashame 19 fans permalink
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Obama is right back off because he knows exactly what the Republicans are trying to do

WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. THEY"RE DOING IT AGAIN JUST LIKE 2000 and 2004.


People wake up. Can't you see what CARL ROVE is doing. Its about divide and conquer for the repu. They know they can not win on the issues that Americans are facing today so they create a diversion and stupid Americans are falling for it. Before you know it this election will be all about abortion not about the mortgage crisis, energy, the war, healthcare and the exploitation of the constitution.


Obama is right back off because he knows exactly what the Republicans are trying to do

WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. THEY"RE DOING IT AGAIN JUST LIKE 2000 and 2004.


People wake up. Can't you see what CARL ROVE is doing. Its about divide and conquer for the repu. They know they can not win on the issues that Americans are facing today so they create a diversion and stupid Americans are falling for it. Before you know it this election will be all about abortion not about the mortgage crisis, energy, the war, healthcare and the exploitation of the constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 09/02/2008
- filo I'm a Fan of filo 75 fans permalink
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Amazing! If you point out Palin is inexperienced, then it is about judgement. If you say Obama was right about not going inti Iraq in the first place then it is about experience. They don't know which way to spin but they will spin and spin and spin. Amazing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 09/02/2008

They'll spin until they vomit

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 09/02/2008
- Whatashame I'm a Fan of Whatashame 19 fans permalink
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WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. THEY"RE DOING IT AGAIN JUST LIKE 2000 and 2004.


People wake up. Can't you see what CARL ROVE is doing. Its about divide and conquer for the repu. They know they can not win on the issues that Americans are facing today so they create a diversion and stupid Americans are falling for it. Before you know it this election will be all about abortion not about the mortgage crisis, energy, the war, healthcare and the exploitation of the constitution.

WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA. THEY"RE DOING IT AGAIN JUST LIKE 2000 and 2004.


People wake up. Can't you see what CARL ROVE is doing. Its about divide and conquer for the repu. They know they can not win on the issues that Americans are facing today so they create a diversion and stupid Americans are falling for it. Before you know it this election will be all about abortion not about the mortgage crisis, energy, the war, healthcare and the exploitation of the constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 09/02/2008
- JeremyO I'm a Fan of JeremyO 3 fans permalink

McCain's VP pick just empasis how completely full of crap the Republicans are. The Republicans just got done saying every minute of every day for the last 14 months that experience is the only thing that matters and that Obama has no experience. Now, if anyone was paying attention to them, such as the viewers of FOX news, you'd think after hearing this matra so many times they would have learned by now, that experience is the only thing that matters. NOPE! They were just kidding, experience doesn't really matter at all, it's judgement stupids. Just forget what we said.

McCain sure did make a horse's ass out of the GOP this year. Of course on the bright side at least the viewers of FOX news can't remember what the hell happened yesterday let alone the last 14 months. They're willing to believe whatever garbage the Republicans say. That's something positive for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 09/02/2008
- tlgeiger62 I'm a Fan of tlgeiger62 60 fans permalink
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Graham adds, "Governor Palin took on Ted Stevens. If she can take him on, she can take on the Russians."

To refresh...­Stevens is the guy who ranted in the Senate that the internet "is a series of TUBES"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 09/02/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 48 fans permalink
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Suddenly, experience doesn't matter anymore!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 AM on 09/02/2008
- Frenchy9 I'm a Fan of Frenchy9 5 fans permalink

We should not be surprised!

That's how the Reps are successful in elections and control the country: spinning the "tdumbest thing we have ever heard" into a kind of truth, broadcast as such by the MSM.

That's how they "own" National Security, they own "family values", "patriotism", etc., etc., and the Dems look like they recognize thss superiority in those fields.

That's why the single most important word in Obama Acceptance speech was : "ENOUGH!" and his tome of "severity" was even more important.

Enough is enough! I would have liked him to repeat it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 09/02/2008
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Lindsey Graham = tired, closeted, inept, empty, GOP posterchild for regressive policies. They really don't know what they're doing, but that's what their base likes about them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 AM on 09/02/2008
- iluvsam I'm a Fan of iluvsam 17 fans permalink

Why are none of the Dems picking up on these statements:

'On Capitol Hill, Sen. John Warner, R-Va., called Stevens a hero, adding, however, he didn't know any details about the indictment. "All of us have time that we have to deal with that are tough," Warner said. "I wish him the best."

'"I've known Ted Stevens for 28 years and have always known him to be impeccably honest,' said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., another longtime colleague. '

So tell me Republicans, is he corrupt (hence your argument for Palin), or is he a "hero"? Another spin job the Dems need to pounce on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 09/02/2008
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