Russia Says US May Have Sent Weapons To Georgia

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PAUL AMES | September 1, 2008 06:36 PM EST | AP

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Georgian people hold national, EU and NATO flags at a rally against Russia at Freedom Square in Tbilisi, Monday, Sept. 1, 2008. Huge crowds of Georgians surged into the capital's streets Monday to demonstrate against Russia. The Tbilisi demonstration started Monday with people holding hands to form "human chains" in an echo of the so-called Baltic Chain of 1989 in which residents of then-Soviet Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia stretched the length of their homelands to protest Soviet occupation. (AP Photo/Irakli Gedenidze, Pool)

BRUSSELS, Belgium — European Union leaders warned Russia on Monday that talks on a wide-ranging political and economic agreement would be postponed unless Russian troops pull back from positions in Georgia.

The threat to delay talks set for this month on the "partnership and cooperation agreement" with Russia came after Britain and eastern European nations held out for a tougher line. But Europe's dependence on Russian oil and natural gas deterred stronger sanctions.

"I think we found an excellent compromise (by) not going back to business as usual, but still making clear that we want to maintain contact with Russia," said German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

At a four-hour meeting, the leaders ordered EU bureaucrats to study alternative energy sources to reverse growing dependence on Russia, which supplies a third of the EU's oil and 40 percent of its natural gas.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said he plans to travel to Moscow next Monday for talks with the Russian leadership. A cease-fire he brokered to end fighting between Russian and Georgia calls for forces to be withdrawn to their positions before the war.

The Bush administration welcomed the EU's move.

"This extraordinary EU summit demonstrates that Europe and the United States are united in standing firm behind Georgia's territorial integrity, sovereignty and reconstruction," White House press secretary Dana Perino said in a statement.

Earlier, Russia warned the West against supporting Georgia's leadership, suggesting that the United States delivered weapons as well as aid to the former Soviet republic and calling for an arms embargo until the Georgian government falls.

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"If instead of choosing their national interests and the interests of the Georgian people, the United States and its allies choose the Saakashvili regime, this will be a mistake of truly historic proportions," Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.

Hours after Lavrov's comments, the spokesman for the Foreign Ministry suggested U.S. ships that carried humanitarian aid to Georgia's Black Sea coast following last month's war may also have delivered weapons.

Without naming a specific country, Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko said there were "suppositions" that the cargo of military ships bringing aid to Georgia may also have included "military components that will be used for the rearmament" of Georgia's military. He provided no evidence, but said such suspicions were a reason for Russia's call for an arms embargo.

Lavrov reserved particular criticism for the United States, which has trained Georgian troops, saying such aid had failed to give Washington sufficient leverage to restrain the Georgian government. Instead, he said, "It encouraged the irresponsible and unpredictable regime in its gambles."

Neither the State Department nor the Pentagon had immediate comment.

Human Rights Watch said Monday that Georgia _ as well as Russia _ dropped cluster bombs during the conflict. The rights group said Georgia's government has admitted it, while Russia continues with denials.

"These indiscriminate attacks violate international humanitarian law," said Bonnie Docherty, arms division researcher at the New York-based body, who said the casualty toll in only four Georgia villages from cluster bombs and their leftover duds was 14 dead and dozens wounded.

The revelation could provide fuel for Russia, which has traded allegations with Georgia over controversial weapon usage, human rights violations and disinformation.

Huge crowds of Georgians surged into the streets of the capital, Tbilisi, to demonstrate against Russia while others gathered at a Russian checkpoint where soldiers are guarding the "security zone" Moscow claimed for itself after last month's war.

Large demonstrations also took place in Poti, the Black Sea port city where Russian forces have a checkpoint on the outskirts, and in Gori, which was bombed and then occupied by Russian forces.

Several hundred people marched from Gori to the Russian checkpoint at Karaleti, about four miles north, where soldiers watched impassively but a tank turret swiveled ominously from behind an earthen fortification.

No figures for total turnout nationwide were immediately available, but the television station Rustavi-2 said more than 1 million people participated in the demonstrations that also included the cities of Kutaisi and Zugdidi.

The crowd that jammed Tbilisi's main avenue alone appeared to have at least 100,000 people. The Tbilisi demonstration started with people holding hands to form "human chains" in an echo of the so-called Baltic Chain of 1989 in which residents of then-Soviet Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia stretched the length of their homelands to protest Soviet occupation.

A 60-year-old demonstrator, Tengiz Kuparadze, said he was in Lithuania for that event.

"Now, Lithuania has become free; it is a member of the European Union and reliably protected against Russia. Georgia will fight for this, and will win," he said.

On Aug. 7, Georgian forces attacked South Ossetia, hoping to retake the province, which broke away from Georgia in the early 1990s. Russian forces repelled the offensive and pushed into Georgia. Both sides signed a cease-fire deal in mid-August, but Russia has ignored its requirement for all forces to return to prewar positions.

Moscow has insisted the cease-fire accord lets it run checkpoints in security zones of up to 4 miles into Georgian territory.

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Associated Press writers Jim Heintz in Tbilisi, Georgia, and Mansur Mirovalev in Moscow contributed to this report.

BRUSSELS, Belgium — European Union leaders warned Russia on Monday that talks on a wide-ranging political and economic agreement would be postponed unless Russian troops pull back from positions...
BRUSSELS, Belgium — European Union leaders warned Russia on Monday that talks on a wide-ranging political and economic agreement would be postponed unless Russian troops pull back from positions...
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- ZellaBee I'm a Fan of ZellaBee 14 fans permalink

Cheney should leave the US, get his own island with his best buddies the Saudis', Bin Laden, Condi, the entire Bush Family,. They should also make sure they have the games "Stratego", 'Battleship", "Chess" and "Twister" and the home version of to "Tell the Truth" on hand, and play them daily.
The world be a lot healthier, happier and safer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 09/04/2008
- nogimmicks I'm a Fan of nogimmicks 31 fans permalink

The whole think stinks. If Cheney is supporting him, if Saakashvili used cluster bombs to attack its ethnic minority, if McCain has vested interests in Georgia and uses the crisis to be elected, we pretty much know what is happening. 1B dollars tied to spending them on ordering bombs and ammo from the US, will be taken from the taxpayers and given to a new Saddam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 09/04/2008
- RRK70 I'm a Fan of RRK70 18 fans permalink

Since it was rather clear that Russia held air superiority (air dominance actually) from the outset, and since the article states Georgia used cluster bombs, then I guess it can be assumed that Georgia must have used these munitions when they first struck South Ossetia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 09/02/2008

TBILISI-Tens of thousands of people protested in Georgia's capital on Monday against President Mikheil Saakashvili, who they said had stolen victory for his ruling party in last week's parliamentary election.
Opponents massed in front of the parliament building in central Tbilisi, scene of protests that brought Saakashvili to power in 2003.The U.S.-educated lawyer's democratic credentials are under intense scrutiny after he used riot police to crush protests last November, and the opposition say he has rigged presidential and parliamentary elections, including the May 21 vote. A Reuters reporter estimated that up to 40,000 people attended the demonstration after an Independence Day military parade, making it the biggest protest rally since Saakashvili's January inauguration. "We want these elections to be cancelled and we want this parliament to be abolished," Salome Zurabishvili, a former foreign minister told the crowd.Some protesters carried an effigy of Saakashvili with a banner saying "Vote Thief" while others chanted "Misha go! Misha go!"
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL2630630120080526

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 09/01/2008

Since when an aggressor regime who lost a war presumes to dictate terms to the victors?
Saakashvilli O.D.ed on Red Bull and Boss ties. Someone should sl-ap him around to bring him back to reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 09/01/2008
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Just a quick update: The EU has voted to suspend the talks on the new partner ship program with Russia until they pull their troops out of Georgia. There are also other links that can update you on this conflict, if your interested - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7592541.stm

After catching up a bit, it seems not much has changed. The Georgians and Ossetians are accusing each other of war crimes, Saakashvili is still publically taunting the Russians (like a punk), and it's pretty much become clear to all parties involved (except Saakashvili, apparently), that Georgia is Putin's for the taking. There's nothing the EU or the US can do about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 09/01/2008

Agreed. Interesting tid bit. Saak. was NOT invited to the E.U. summit. The big boys want to deal with the issue by themselves, Misha's cheap theatrics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 09/01/2008
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