GOP Omerta On Palin Withdrawal

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First Posted: 09- 2-08 08:11 PM   |   Updated: 10- 3-08 05:12 AM

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Determined, at least for the moment, to avoid even a hint of replicating the forced withdrawal in 1972 of Vice Presidential nominee Thomas Eagleton, Republicans here are uniformly claiming that absolutely no one - except the press - has discussed, mentioned or even hinted at the possibility that John McCain may have to bump Sarah Palin off the ticket.

"Hell no! No hint of that! None! Nada," declared Republican Pollster Whit Ayres. "All of the talk is exactly the other way," he said, claiming to be stunned by a reporter's inquiry. Palin, he said, "has energized this convention. These people [delegates] are fired up about her. Now they are going to work their hearts out for her."

On the record and off the record, Republican strategists are putting up a nearly united front in a drive to quash public speculation that the growing controversies surrounding the Palin pick, and the growing body of evidence that only a superficial background check of the Alaska Governor was conducted, are forcing the McCain campaign to rethink its choice.

Among the many news stories that have followed the selection of Palin are: There is a special investigation underway into Palin's decision to fire the state Public Safety Commissioner; her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant; her husband has been active in an Alaska secession movement and she has attended meetings of the secessionist organization; Palin helped run a '527' third party political group of the kind McCain has adamantly criticized in the past; and she has come under fire for spending little time with her newborn Downs Syndrome child.

The Republican 'Omerta' strategy is, as one lonely GOP source noted to the Huffington Post, not credible. "Of course people talk about it [pulling Palin off the ticket] over a drink or at breakfast. Everyone agrees that it's not in the cards now, but it's crazy to tell you animals [reporters] that there is a total vacuum of thought."

That note of realism does not, however, prevent the cadre of strategists and operatives here from toeing the line. "There has not been any talk that I've heard," one well-connected player here contended. "Everyone is locking in on her." This source did not declare that a change in the number two spot is forever off the table, however. "He [McCain] is not going to do it unless something that is completely off the radar now comes up."

The McCain campaign and the RNC have issued Palin talking points to delegates who face constant questioning from local and national press about the qualifications of McCain's choice and the floodtide of disclosures about her past and her family. Marc Ambinder posted a campaign email marked, "INTERNAL DOCUMENT - NOT TO BE EMAILED BEYOND CURRENT DISTRIBUTION LIST." It told loyal party members what to say when questioned about Palin's family issues:

"Please see the following points on Gov. Palin's family.

" * Governor Palin and her husband Todd have a loving family and their children mean everything to them. When their oldest daughter Bristol came to them with news that she was expecting a child they embraced her and gave her nothing but unconditional love and support.

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"* This is a very personal matter for the family. We should all respect the love they have for the child and the desire all parents would have for their children's privacy.

"* The media should respect Bristol's privacy. That's always been the tradition and practice when it comes to the children of candidates.

"* (If pressed) The children of candidates do not choose to run for office and be thrust into the spotlight."

Thomas Eagleton was announced on July 14, 1972, as George McGovern's Vice Presidential pick, but news stories soon disclosed that he had received psychiatric care for depression, including electroshock therapy. Just over two weeks later, on August 1, Eagleton withdrew at McGovern's request and was replaced by Ted Kennedy-in-law Sargent Shriver.

As of Tuesday night, Intrade, the political futures market, was offering gamblers convinced that Palin will withdraw 8.3-to-1 odds: that anyone betting $12 dollars that Palin would be off the ticket before November 4 would get $100 back if they were proved right.

Determined, at least for the moment, to avoid even a hint of replicating the forced withdrawal in 1972 of Vice Presidential nominee Thomas Eagleton, Republicans here are uniformly claiming that absolu...
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What I want to know from you all is how you think this will play out for Mc if Palin withdraws? Will it make him look incompetent? Will he then pick someone better qualified and win? Will it matter or not?

Also, my gut tells me that if Palin pulls out, it won't be her own doing. She'll be pressured from Mc, but the Reps will make it sound like it's totally her decision.

So - question? What's worse?
1. Palin on the ticket
2. Palin pulls out and Mc has to have a "do over"
??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 09/03/2008
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Both ways McCain is in trouble.

If she stays on the ticket all her baggage will surely cause damages. If she pull off, McCain's judgment will cause more problems. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. A French saying which goes: "Le diable fait toujours des choses qui le trompent". Devil always makes things that tick him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 09/03/2008

Its already a lost costs and they know it. Drops her,then it becomes poor Judgement which is O's argument against him. Maintain her and how do u defend all of this?

Its OVAH.well it was long ago

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/03/2008

Gov. Palin isn't going anywhere unless there is something huge out there that no one knows.. If that is the case McCain is done and they'll bring in Romney.. But, this is a huge shot in the dark and much wishful thinking... Dems hold strong they should keep her on the ticket and layoff her daughter.. Leave that stuff for the Maury Povich show.

Gov. Palin is going to spend the next forty days defending her record instead of the issues that Americans want to hear about..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 09/03/2008

hahhahahahahahahhahahahah the Repugnicants have once again proven they can't get it right. The mess they are in just keeps getting perpetuated. They let a weather pattern determine their convention agenda???, (I'm sorry, but they DO NOT give a rat's patootie for 'those' people) but it served the purpose that they wanted (oops, or did it?) to sidetrack the Bush/Cheney fallout, the Palin fallout, their own ineptness fallout, the Katrina fallout (replay that again Sam) bit them in the a** fallout...hahhhahahahahhaa Oh my Goodness...it just keeps getting better cause they didn't vett-her. I can't wait to hear how Mr Hightower and Michael Moore roll these times. If we could get Jon Stewart's and Colbert's egos out of the way, we might get to hear more interesting and meaningful comedy on all this. There's too much material here!!hahahhahahahaha I have this little domino noise that goes on in my head and somedays it is like a door crashing open when the cops break in paid for by the RNC...hahhahhahaa sorry Amy, I am glad you and your friends are OK but look at the bright side...when in the history of media have you ever seen such a blazing opportunity for lawsuits, comedy routines, and a call to witness the damning of America by the very Repugnicants who clain such high morals and standards and Patriotism??? hahhhahahahahhaah I need a tissue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 09/03/2008
- Roxanna I'm a Fan of Roxanna 35 fans permalink

I sincerely hope the Media Does Not Stop Digging up all they know about Sara Palin!

This needs to come right back on the Republican Party in their face. They have become such a select few who leave out masses of other people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 09/03/2008
- Rawkcuf I'm a Fan of Rawkcuf 6 fans permalink

I agree, Roxanna. But I can't help being dismayed at the unanimous support Republicans are giving McCain for this choice. It makes me wonder if Caligula's horse would have been equally well recieved. The emperor's new clothes 'disappear' when a boy says, 'but he has no clothes.' Does it look like a Republican will have the temerity to stand up and say that? Doesn't seem likely. Whatever the debate on experience may prove, the question of intellectual stature will not prove favorable to Palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 09/03/2008
- cobraxus I'm a Fan of cobraxus 21 fans permalink
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they have to keep repeating how excited everyone is so the base will believe it and come out big time to vote for her(wait...aren't they supposed to be voting for McCain?).if you keep saying it over and over it becomes the truth for these people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 09/03/2008
- BCubedReg I'm a Fan of BCubedReg 6 fans permalink

You are right on point!

"The emperor has no clothes" and the reupublicans and their flock continue to look blindly at a candidate and party that is bared naked before the world while espousing that yes.. indeed the emperor has clothes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 09/03/2008
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Since Obama came on the scene I've heard how is a Muslim, a terrorist, a communist, a racist, and is the anti-Christ (no, I'm not joking) - boo hoo on how Palin is being treated. Repugs are bullies and liars who can't stand when the tables turn. Consider them TURNED, bitches ! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 09/03/2008
- flatus I'm a Fan of flatus 37 fans permalink
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You have got to marvel at the Republican ability to goosestep in such perfect synchronization, eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 09/03/2008

I know, I'm just the angry left whiner with the mental recession. I have no issues in this election, and should just concentrate on the candidates. Well, thanks, but no thanks, McBush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 09/03/2008
- Trucker777 I'm a Fan of Trucker777 4 fans permalink

In conversation with several conservative friends here in Georgia, many veterans my age (60+) and ALL registered voters, agree that Sarah Palin is an attractive candidate

Being in the same age group as McCain, most believe that the GOP VP choice will end up being the President if the GOP wins in November. They are not happy with the total lack of qualifications the GOP candidate has when compared to the Dem's choice for VP.

One “hard core” GOP military veteran hoped that he had not wasted his thirty years in the military to live and see the damage this selection would cause.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 09/03/2008
- VenusMuse I'm a Fan of VenusMuse 2 fans permalink

Go Georgia! I used to live in Georgia! In South Carolina, we too agree McCain Palin is a terrific ticket!1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 09/03/2008
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I hear the sound of banjo's playing...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 09/03/2008
- Trucker777 I'm a Fan of Trucker777 4 fans permalink

It would appear that many conservatives in Georgia don't have their heads buried in the sand like conservatives in South Carolina.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 09/03/2008
- mntnguy I'm a Fan of mntnguy 2 fans permalink

It is a terrific ticket! When I heard it was like Christmas in august. I have known Gov Palin for a while and looked into her background they have not even begun to dig out the good stuff yet. Once it all comes to light Obama will sail to victory in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 09/03/2008
- Busterdawg I'm a Fan of Busterdawg 6 fans permalink

This wishful thinking on our part has to stop. Palin isn't going to withdraw. Red State America is already in love with her.

If she is such a terrible choice, why aren't we letting her sink on her own... instead of bleating like crazed sheep over her and her beliefs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 09/03/2008
- FORLOMC I'm a Fan of FORLOMC 15 fans permalink

Becuase we have already done CRAZY beliefs for 8 stinky years. ENOUGH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 09/03/2008
- Fernando I'm a Fan of Fernando 29 fans permalink
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It has been less than a week since she was announced as running VP and the McCain campaign has been on defense-mode since. It is unlikely that the idea of dropping her hasn't been seriously considered by McCain's inner circle. The fact that she hasn't given one full interview to a single network yet makes it clear the McCain campaign doesn't think she is ready either.

The Republican base is in love with her but she is scaring independents away and they are essential for either party to win.

By the way, this article states "her husband was involved in a secessionist party". Sarah Palin herself was involved with that group, she has a lot of baggage but it is up to the Obama campaign and the press to dig up her past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 09/03/2008
- mntnguy I'm a Fan of mntnguy 2 fans permalink

I could not agree more this pick was for one purpose and one only to bring the GOP together. Everyone was so caught up on the democrats being split they did not notice that the GOP was split even worse because social conservatives don't like Mc Cain. So he went and choose a conservative extremist another radical right wing nut! now all her dirt is dripping out. I know there are members of his inner circle that have thought about dropping here regardless of what they say. They all lie till it comes out int he media then try to play the blame game. GOP is never in the wrong as long as they have someone else to point the finger at!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 09/03/2008
- dirtystrat I'm a Fan of dirtystrat 2 fans permalink

"but it is up to the Obama campaign and the press to dig up her past."

Like the way the press has dug into Obamas background ties to that radical Ayers. Or the way Obama has voted present about 150 times in the Senate so that he wouldn't have a paper trail to get in the way of the election. Or the way Obama has never heard Reverand Wright say anything stupid in the last 20 years. Is any of that believable? But don't worry. The press is firmly in the bag for Obama. At some point there will be a huge backlash for the way Sarah Palin is being trashed. Obama will lose in November. People will choose the safe bet in McCain and will not take a chance with Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 09/03/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 101 fans permalink

I think "we" (Democrats, Americans) win either way. I live in the west, and western red states are not being snookered in. If you mean the Deep South, I never expected us to win there. It's the Republicans who are protesting too much. Obama has broken the 50% line in the national polls AFTER the announcement of McCain's choice. Buh bye, concern troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 09/03/2008
- stevorama I'm a Fan of stevorama 2 fans permalink
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Excellent point, let's sit back and enjoy the slo-mo train wreck. Who wants popcorn?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 09/03/2008
- Giopaps I'm a Fan of Giopaps 2 fans permalink

Because Palin is the one who tells me that my 17 year old daughter and 18 year old son can only be taught sexual abstinence at their schools. Because in her function as VP Palin will have the authority to tell my kids that using contraception is against God's will. We don't need a VP who preaches her personal sexual opinions to our teenagers meanwhile her own teenager daughter seems to be exempt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 09/03/2008
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With Palin onboard, it will become a train wreck.

Let that train roll for as long as possible.

The Obama campaign needs not, and maybe should not spend any time commenting on her.
This nomination is self destructive, and because she is a candidate with a touchy personal story, keeping a distance from her is wise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 09/03/2008

I don't think the Obama people are saying anything except she is inexperienced, which they should rightfully say of any VP candidtate with her credentials. As for the rest, well the media and the blogosphere have a strange life of their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 09/03/2008
- FromTN I'm a Fan of FromTN 2 fans permalink

Agreed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 09/03/2008

Agreed as well! We should just let it ride and watch it crash and burn. All she has to do is open her mouth on her own, without teleprompters or scripts.

I can't wait for the debates. I'm already making the popcorn! tee hee

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 09/03/2008
- LeeFromVA I'm a Fan of LeeFromVA 10 fans permalink

I couldn't agree more. The Republicans have a disaster on their hands. We should kick back and enjoy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 09/03/2008
- BCubedReg I'm a Fan of BCubedReg 6 fans permalink

I agree. The republicans are self immolating. Astonishingly, McCain was actually gaining ground in the polls until he made his announcement and any gains he made quickly evaporated. For self destructing his own campaign he is unfit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 09/03/2008
- mntnguy I'm a Fan of mntnguy 2 fans permalink

I completely agree and it will only push independents away if they come out swinging now they are dropping Mc Cain like last weeks toast already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 09/03/2008
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BaltimoreSteve: You are so, so right. Mrs. Clinton, who is also pro-choice,
would hopefully agree. Don't get me wrong. I think that Sarah Palin is an
extremely appealing and charismatic person who is the greatest governor
Alaska could have, but doesn't fit well as a VP candidate. I rather imagine
that she is candid and honest enough to agree with me. Mr. Obama's (I am
an Obama supporter) campaign would be wise to ignore her. Any attack brings
the GOP more votes in Nov. hipo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 09/03/2008
- ohiodem250 I'm a Fan of ohiodem250 28 fans permalink

I'm not going to lie, I find it incomprehensible that Democrats and liberals are on these comment boards questioning Gov. Palin's dedication to her family or whether or not she has enough time to be VP with 5 kids, one with Down Syndrome. Weren't liberals on the forefront of the fight for these questions to be irrelevant for women? While I strongly condemn Gov. Palin's stances on equal pay for equal work, abolishing reproductive rights, abstinence only education in schools, teaching creationism as opposed to science, city administrative "loyalty tests," banning books from public libraries, et al. - I am ashamed that my fellow liberals would attack this part of her profile. This is one of the very few characteristics that actually do make her admirable. Show some damn respect and fight her on the issues because that is a field on which she will lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 09/03/2008
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There's more than enough junk on Palin to bring her, McCain and the GOP without humiliating the kids, the boyfriend or the mentally handicapped daughter.

Attacking the kids doesn't do anything but make us look mean.

Attacking the idiot that Sarah Palin is doesn't require hauling innocent bystanders into it at all. There's MORE than enough to take her down just using her spotty record.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 09/03/2008
- FORLOMC I'm a Fan of FORLOMC 15 fans permalink

She should never have brought the kids on stage with her if she didn't want them to be paraded around. Trying to hide the baby bump with a blanket. I don't think she is very wise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 09/03/2008

I don't think the intent is to humiliate Bristol Palin--quite the contrary, otherwise the media would have hit harder. The issue centers on the fact that Bristol got to decide or "choose" what she wanted to do with her reproductive system. That's the crux of pro-choice. That she chose to forego contraceptives or continue her pregnancy, was her personal decision (or maybe her family's, if you want to be cynical about it.) Why then would the Republicans (Palin included) deny this choice to other women?

Also, if the Palin family is trying to pull one over the American family--in the scenario that Sarah Palin's child is actually Bristol's--all bets are off. (Sorry, Bristol.) If there's one thing Americans can't stomach, it's being lied to. Sarah Palin has presented the Down syndrome child as her own. If she lied, that's subject to public discussion--even if the child happened to belong to Bristol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 09/03/2008

I think everyone is missing the point. Noone wants to "go After" Bristol. It was her own mom that "threw her under the bus". So announce Bristol was pregnant to stop rumors about her own pregnancy and baby. I don't think she should have humiliated her daughter in the national news.

Second: Palin is an advocate of abstinance only. But, it did not even work with her own daughter.

third: As for eveyone being thrilled that Bristol is keeping the baby and marrying the father; what choice do they have? With the whole world watch; of course the whole family is going to be thrilled. They cannot voice that they are mad as h.... As for Marriage. Again Bristol has no choice. These are not her choices, they are her families.

I really feel sorry for Bristol and Levi!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 09/03/2008
- GSMRaleigh I'm a Fan of GSMRaleigh 3 fans permalink

Being gov of Alaska = Executive Experience
Being in the US Senate does not?

Does McClueless have executive experience?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 09/03/2008
- FORLOMC I'm a Fan of FORLOMC 15 fans permalink

No McClueless is clueless on all fronts except the WAR front. No wait. He was only in combat for 20 hours and then ditched his plane. Gee he is even clueless on the War front. Sorry. BUT, never fear for Palin is here. She has experience with $6 million dollars and 53 employees, and doesn't know what the VP does. So, sleep well if they steal the election. That is plan C.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 09/03/2008
- gregdeveer I'm a Fan of gregdeveer 3 fans permalink

No he doesn't.
A bit hypocritical of him to say the least.

Not to mention the fact that he has made experience the most important issue in this election, then voluntarily hand picks someone with less experience than Obama.

Amazing he can even keep a straight face...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 09/03/2008
- MinuteMan I'm a Fan of MinuteMan 5 fans permalink

Her experience is extremely limited: she was a mayor of a dinky city (population 6,500 and is basically a long strip-mall and its surrounding population) and has been governor of Alaska (population 670,000) for not even two years. But far worse than her limited experience is her complete, studied ignorance of foreign policy and many other critical domestic issues that effect the nation outside of Alaska.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 09/03/2008
- VenusMuse I'm a Fan of VenusMuse 2 fans permalink

Yes, there is a huge difference in executive experience as gov of a state than being a senator and voting on policies and issues. Obama if you recall spent most of his senate time either absent or voting present. Neither Obama nor Biden have any executive experience - even Hillary Clinton says Obama is not qualified to be president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 09/03/2008
- MinuteMan I'm a Fan of MinuteMan 5 fans permalink

So you're saying that Palin is actually bringing much needed executive experience to the otherwise unqualified ticket? Wow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 09/03/2008
- BCubedReg I'm a Fan of BCubedReg 6 fans permalink

That's a lie. To say he "spent most of his senate time either absent or voting present." is not just a lie, it's a damn lie. Go peddle your wares somewhere else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 09/03/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 09/03/2008

Keep it up hippies, and to quote your greek god...


THIS WAS THE MOMENT...........................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 09/03/2008

"Hippies?" Who are you, Eric Cartman?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 09/03/2008
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