Gustav Raises The Question (Again): Is New Orleans Worth It?

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LARA JAKES JORDAN | 09/ 2/08 10:10 AM | AP

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This aerial photo released by the U.S. Coast Guard shows flooding from Hurricane Gustav in the Rigolets, in eastern New Orleans Monday, Sept. 1, 2008. The Rigolets is one of two passes that connect Lake Pontchartrain with the Gulf of Mexico and a key conduit of storm surge into the New Orleans area. (AP Photo/U.S. Coast Guard)

WASHINGTON — Those who love New Orleans say Hurricane Gustav is proof that the billions of dollars spent to protect the city and bring it back to life after the devastating 2005 storm season was worth it.

But what if Gustav had been stronger, a category 4 instead of a 2, and hit the city directly instead of 70 miles to the west? Would it be worth the cost to rebuild New Orleans again if the storm caused widespread destruction as Katrina did?

"That's a question that was there before and after (Hurricane) Katrina, and I think is going to come to the forefront again," said Don Powell, who oversaw the Bush administration's effort to rebuild the Gulf Coast in 2005.

"There's a lot of reasons to continue," Powell said Monday, his voice trailing off. "That's a debate we will continue to have."

Despite fizzling out shortly after it made landfall Monday, Gustav spurred the government into action, probably costing millions of dollars, and put a nation angered by the bungled response to Katrina three years ago back on alert.

Since Katrina ripped through New Orleans three years ago, the federal government has devoted at least $133 billion in emergency funds and tax credits for Gulf Coast disaster relief. Much of it went to rebuilding and better protecting New Orleans from future storms. How much more will be needed after Gustav _ or Hurricane Hanna, as that storm creeps up Florida's eastern coast _ is unclear.

Former GOP House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., infuriated Louisiana lawmakers when he suggested in 2005 that a lot of New Orleans "could be bulldozed" after Katrina and questioned the wisdom of rebuilding it. More dispassionate observers note that no matter how much is spent, New Orleans will continue to swallow federal dollars with each gulp of the Gulf or Lake Pontchartrain.

"New Orleans didn't rise up in the ground from where they were before," Harvey E. Johnson, deputy director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said shortly before Gustav's landfall. "They're still below sea level. So you're still going to get water inside of New Orleans. And they know that."

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A study last month by the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank, concluded that 72 percent of the city's households that fled Katrina returned to New Orleans, as did 90 percent of its sales tax revenues. However, as many as 65,000 blighted properties or empty lots still mar the city, and house rents are up 46 percent.

To die-hard residents and other devotees of the Big Easy, the money poured into the Gulf Coast to continue oil production, preserve local culture and, most importantly, strengthen levees showed that New Orleans could withstand another battering by Mother Nature.

"This will actually be good news, because this makes clear that the historic city can be protected," said Walter Isaacson, former vice chairman of the Louisiana Recovery Authority during the administration of ex-Gov. Kathleen Blanco. "New Orleans rebuilt itself because people love the place, and we're all heartened that the new levee system seems strong, and the city seems safe.

"The worst has passed."

Some observers aren't so sure.

"It's a soup bowl and it's not safe," said Beverly Cigler, a public policy professor at Penn State University, referring to the city's cup-shaped geography.

Local political eagerness to develop property in New Orleans instead of protecting wetlands, which serve as a natural storm buffer, has hampered safety, said Cigler, co-chair of a Katrina task force set up by the American Society for Public Administration. Levees, meanwhile, are still three years away from being fully strengthened. And since there are differing levels of elevation throughout the city, "some places are safer than others."

"My own personal opinion is that you shouldn't rebuild in areas unless you can make them safe," she said. "And nobody's had the willingness to confront these kinds of issues."

Yet abandoning New Orleans hardly seems an option either.

The Gulf Coast is home to nearly half the nation's refining capacity, 25 percent of offshore domestic oil production and 15 percent of natural gas output. Tens of thousands of construction workers, hoteliers, nurses and other service employees who flocked to New Orleans in Katrina's aftermath have helped keep local unemployment low. Not to mention that giving up would, essentially, mean spending all those billions of dollars for naught.

"It's clear that a lot of the money was spent well _ even if it's far too early to declare victory," said Don Kettl, University of Pennsylvania public policy professor and co-editor of "On Risk and Disaster: Lessons From Hurricane Katrina."

"If you walk away, you are condemning the city to tremendous suffering," Kettl said. "As serious as the suffering was the last time, it didn't completely destroy the city. The real challenge is deciding what kind of city you want."

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ Lara Jakes Jordan covered the federal response to hurricanes Katrina, Rita and Wilma in 2005 and 2006.

WASHINGTON — Those who love New Orleans say Hurricane Gustav is proof that the billions of dollars spent to protect the city and bring it back to life after the devastating 2005 storm season was...
WASHINGTON — Those who love New Orleans say Hurricane Gustav is proof that the billions of dollars spent to protect the city and bring it back to life after the devastating 2005 storm season was...
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- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 136 fans permalink

I find it interesting that information that is used in journals is not normally used in discussions in the press or online.

We humans decided that we could do a better job than mother nature, and started "controlling" the Mississippi River, instead of letting it choose it's own course. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, through their "control" of the river, has caused the river to flow in a bed that would have been abandoned by nature maybe 60 years ago, as it got filled up with silt.

Add to that the destruction of the natural wetlands by human activity (much of that led by the oil companies), and we have a part of the recipe for disaster.

We could move New Orleans, or we could choose to repair the damage we have done to the Mississippi River and to the wetlands downriver from New Orleans.

It is also very important to look at the results of the work of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers between San Francisco and Sacramento, California. In many places the rivers have been forced to run at twenty feet above the surrounding habitation. An earthquake or flood in the area could result in devastation equaling what we have seen around New Orleans. The decisions that need to be made to solve the man-made potential for disaster in this area will not be inexpensive, but the results of inaction will be even more expensive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 09/02/2008
- NL207 I'm a Fan of NL207 8 fans permalink

"and started "controlling" the Mississippi River, instead of letting it choose it's own course. ... caused the river to flow in a bed that would have been abandoned by nature maybe 60 years ago..."

Perhaps you should consider the enormity of this statement. Do you know where the rivier would go if not constrained by the Corps of Engineers? Simple rule shows you where: Water always seeks its own level. It will follow the steepest gradient to the sea. In the case of the present Mississippi, this course passes no where near New Orleans.

Examine this 'project' : http://www.tulane.edu/~bfleury/envirobio/enviroweb/FloodControl.htm
and review the regional topographic maps: http://www.mvn.usace.army.mil/atchafalaya/hydro_ras.html

This is the area that will be devastated one day if present policies persist.

The present day New Orleans is doomed. It should be abandoned. The sooner, the better. The Atchafalaya basin needs to be prepared for the controlled diversion of the Mississippi lest it be swept aside suddenly with great loss of life by the inevitable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 09/05/2008
- Bienville I'm a Fan of Bienville 14 fans permalink
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"The present day New Orleans is doomed. It should be abandoned.­"

I suggest you consider the enormity of your statement.

I understand the river control system quite well, thank you. Name drop time: Morganza, Old River, Bonnet Carre, Caernarvon, Humphrey, Eads, Ellet, Jadwin.

This is not an inssue of engineering. It is an issue of public will. An old engineer once told me, "Nothing is impossible, it just costs money." As I become an old engineer, I agree. If you want to pay, the engineers can build it..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 09/06/2008
- trinity I'm a Fan of trinity 9 fans permalink

If Floridians can get their homes rebuilt year after year after year after year..why are people complaining about New Orleans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 09/02/2008
- NL207 I'm a Fan of NL207 8 fans permalink

Because (1) Florida is not below sea level and (2) the Federal Government has not provided 120B in hurricane relief to Florida from the general revenues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 09/07/2008
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Part 2
Our chthonic funk is the New Orleans Afro-Creole expressive styles that have liberated music, movement, and food. The whole world sings, dances, and eats better because of the sinking city you want to abandon. Maybe New Orleans can put a retroactive tax on the music, arts, and culture that the rest of the country and the world have fed off of for a century. Maybe that would help pay for the levees.

What about present day contributions the city is making? Plenty. New Orleans is an early warning system for the rest of you. Learn from us what to do when the big institutions fail, as they surely will and are. Learn how to make things work anyway.

If somehow we make it, we promise to stay different, to continue being the vanguard of cultural innovation, to keep reminding the world what living and dying is all about.

But ultimately, as the anthropogenic (look it up) global warming and coastal flooding takes place, New Orleans may get so earthy that we'll just sink completely out of sight. Our detractors will be gleeful. Good riddance, and all that.

If we do disappear, and the world loses one of its most unique cities, would some of you promise to have a jazz funeral for us?

Then go have a drink and realize what you have lost.

Au revoir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 09/02/2008
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Part 2
Our chthonic funk is the New Orleans Afro-Creole expressive styles that have liberated music, movement, and food. The whole world sings, dances, and eats better because of the sinking city you want to abandon. Maybe New Orleans can put a retroactive tax on the music, arts, and culture that the rest of the country and the world have fed off of for a century. Maybe that would help pay for the levees.

What about present day contributions the city is making? Plenty. New Orleans is an early warning system for the rest of you. Learn from us what to do when the big institutions fail, as they surely will and are. Learn how to make things work anyway.

If somehow we make it, we promise to stay different, to continue being the vanguard of cultural innovation, to keep reminding the world what living and dying is all about.

But ultimately, as the anthropogenic (look it up) global warming and coastal flooding takes place, New Orleans may get so damn earthy that we'll just sink completely out of sight. Our detractors will be gleeful. Good riddance, and all that.

If we do disappear, and the world loses one of its most unique cities, would some of you promise to have a jazz funeral for us?

Then go have a drink and realize what you have lost.

Au revoir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 09/02/2008
- Mr Grey I'm a Fan of Mr Grey 5 fans permalink

Maybe if we were not wasting trillions of dollars in Iraq and supporting the Industrial Military Complex we could have money for the people of America. You know that little group of people all the politicians claim they care about so very, very much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 09/02/2008
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My post is to long so this is part one.

I am from New Orleans.

Sorry we're a problem to the U.S! But we did not ask to be part of your country. Napoleon sold us to Jefferson. It was not our idea. Give us our independence and see what happens. All your ships will have to pay a hefty fee to use our port. It's worth 300 million dollars a day to your economy, so we can charge you some really high tariffs and you'll have to pay. We can use the money to build our own levees after we kick out the Corps of Engineers.

Bienville founded the city on a strip of land the Chitimacha Indians were living on next to the river in 1699. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but as the city grew it expanded onto swampy land. Our people figured out how to build houses on piers, so it was not too big of a problem until recently.

It's true we are below sea level. That makes us chthonic (look it up)--earthy! You know, as in funky. We're low-down--in touch with the deeper parts of the psyche from where interesting things bubble up. Sorry about that too. It makes stiff people very uncomfortable.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 09/02/2008

Well, if you can make that argument about New Orleans, could you also not make it about places such as Galveston Texas, Florida and other hurricane susceptible areas?

As for New Orleans having blighted areas, well, that is due to a confluence of neglect by a notoriously corrupt state of Louisiana (American's answer to Mexico in that regard) as well as the federal government under both Democrats and Republicans allowing our cities to rot into ungovernable crime filled dysfunctionality.

Now if you want to argue that the need for levees makes New Orleans even more precarious, you might have a case. But just where are the people who inhabit New Orleans going to go and how are you going to replace all the income Louisiana realizes from tourism to the Big Easy? Plus you are going to lose a great tradition of music and cooking that were born there.

There are a whole host of issues to be worked out here. It is just too easy to say, "New Orleans should be removed off the face of the earth."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 09/02/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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While no solution will please everyone, maybe a compromise to both sides. Reduce the area that needs to be protected; limiting it to places such as historic districts and landmarks that are in a geographically similar area and move the things that can be moved, people and most businesses. The newly emptied areas can be restored to their natural state of being hurricane buffer zones.

There has to be higher ground around them that can be built into the New New Orleans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 09/02/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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I should add that my idea of retaining a smaller portion of New Orleans while moving out residents and businesses comes from seeing some small towns across MN and IA do this after years of dealing with river flooding. I realize it is easier to move 3,000 people than a whole city, but it's still a possibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 09/02/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

Great city, but money could be better used elsewhere. Any city that requires $10 billion in disaster assistance on a virtually annual basis probably needs to be rethought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 09/02/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

Pump river water down the old wells and raise New Orleans by 25 feet or more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 09/02/2008
- NL207 I'm a Fan of NL207 8 fans permalink

Simply BS. Can't be done. Has never been done anywhere else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 09/07/2008
- POLINUT I'm a Fan of POLINUT 6 fans permalink

Move it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 09/02/2008
- Egalitare I'm a Fan of Egalitare 6 fans permalink
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Yeah, and while we're at it, we should move Sacramento, too. It's under greater threat from flooding than New Orleans and its levees are in even worse shape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 09/02/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

Guess you need to define "greater threat". NO seems to be under threat of flooding several times every year during hurricane season. Is Sacramento really at greater risk of flooding?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 09/02/2008
- Harry Shearer - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Harry Shearer 740 fans permalink

Fact: according to the most recent report on the matter, by Tulane University, reported in the Times-Picayune March 2007, more than half the populated area of New Orleans is at or above sea level. According to John Barry, author of "Rising Tide" and member of the new levee board, every rive delta port city in the world is by definition built at sea level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 09/02/2008

By definition of "built at sea level" almost every river delta port city is prone to flooding. But some of these cities are doing something about it and others don't.

That's a neat little fact, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 09/02/2008
- Bienville I'm a Fan of Bienville 14 fans permalink
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Which ones, and what are they doing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 09/02/2008
- Egalitare I'm a Fan of Egalitare 6 fans permalink
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"Doing something about it" is a matter of POLITICAL WILL at the local, state and especially Federal levels.

Isn't it ironic that the Netherlands pumped Tulane University for technical expertise after their floodings in the '50s?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 09/02/2008

Having had the extreme good fortune to spend seven weeks on Hawaii's Big Island last winter I'm puzzled that their practical solution to periodic tsunamis isn't implemented in NO. New buildings going up around Hilo, along the coast in Kapoho, in Hanalei on Kaui and in most coastal lowlying areas.... are all being built on top of tall columns with the open area below the raised house or office being used for vehicle parking. It does add to construction costs but would seem to be the solution.

Am I missing something? Some reason this WOULDN'T work?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 09/02/2008
- Bienville I'm a Fan of Bienville 14 fans permalink
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That most of the land area of New Orleans is already occupied by buildings is one obstacle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 09/02/2008

Bowl or not, culturally and artistically New Orleans is worth more than 20 of the the United States and deserves to be protected. If we can put a man on the moon and waste 5 billion a week in Iraq, we damn sure can put a 30 foot high wall around New Orleans and increase the number of drainage pumps. It might seem foolish economically, but considering that the one last thing that America exports and does better than any other country is culture, perhaps preserving the "art laboratory" that is New Orleans might not be such a fools errand after all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 09/02/2008
- NL207 I'm a Fan of NL207 8 fans permalink

"waste 5 billion a week in Iraq"

A bare faced lie,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 09/08/2008
- jay1975 I'm a Fan of jay1975 4 fans permalink
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Let it collapse back into the sea and move the port. Why waste good money after bad on a town that will fall again. It may take up to 50 years or even a 100, but N.O. will sink once more. Why live below sea level?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 09/02/2008
- Exusian I'm a Fan of Exusian 25 fans permalink

Reluctantly, I have to agree that NOL is a lost cause: sooner or later it will be inundated.

But I will point out that it didn't start out below sea level, it settled over time as the silt that it's built on compressed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 09/02/2008
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 30 fans permalink

Which is one of the reasons why so much of southern Louisiana is sinking. The silt that used to be deposited from Mississippi River flooding is now channelized and runs into the Gulf.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 09/02/2008
- Egalitare I'm a Fan of Egalitare 6 fans permalink
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40% of the Netherlands is in the same shape as 40% of New Orleans. They simply have no place to go, so they put up with the extra taxation to stay put.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 09/02/2008

Levees can always be built higher, and neighborhoods can always be knocked down and filled with fill to build new subdivisions and communities upon. The wetlands and marshes that have absorbed the energy of the Gulf and storms around the city through all its history will continue to deteriorate and erode away unless we spend a ton of money to divert river silt to try and stem the tide.

If we leave all cultural and humanitarian concerns aside, the real question is whether it is economically viable to take all these steps to continue to protect the city. My guess is that the economic case is pretty good for the city.

Probably 25% of the oil and natural gas production in the Gulf of Mexico flows into pipelines that flow through areas protected by some of the same levee systems that protect New Orleans. Plans for LNG regasification facilities for Venezuelan and East African natural gas could compound the importance of these pipelines in the future. ConocoPhilips, Murphy, Exxon/Citgo, Shell and Valero all have large refineries in the same levee protected areas.

If oil is no longer needed, the Mississippi will continue to be a trade route for US exports and imports throughout the entire midwest US.

Millions of tourists and convention-goer's flock to the city each year. This is an economic boon for the State of Louisiana that cannot be replaced.

It's much more complicated than a measurement of sea level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 09/02/2008
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