Alaska Independence Party Founder Broadcast Hatred Of America

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First Posted: 09- 3-08 10:30 AM   |   Updated: 10- 4-08 05:12 AM

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Talking Points Memo:

The founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed the American flag as a "damn flag."

The AIP founder, Joe Vogler, made the comments in 1991, in an interview that's now housed at the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.

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The founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his "hatred f...
The founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his "hatred f...
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- Biracial1 I'm a Fan of Biracial1 10 fans permalink

Why does Mr. Palin hate am er i ca?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 09/03/2008

Everybody - contact MSM anchors and do everything you can to stir up interest in this subject. We can't allow people like this to control our government. Buzz this thing up every way you can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 09/03/2008

Talk about quadruple standard

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 09/03/2008

BUZZ UP this article, please!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 09/03/2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmt0rLtgmK0

This video outlines her relationship with AIP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 09/03/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 27 fans permalink

I just know Fox is covering this story over and over...and what is Rush saying....­...does CNN have a hold of it...I mean cover it over and over...not just mention it and then let it go....they Hate America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 09/03/2008
- rabprevent I'm a Fan of rabprevent 11 fans permalink

WHAT IS THAT FAT TOAD SEAN HANNITY GOING TO SAY NOW???

SHOW US YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!!!


VOTE NO TO MCCAIN AND ALL HIS CRONIES!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 09/03/2008

This is the 'REAL" story abouty Palin folks. Not her pregnant daughter. This is a big - big deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 09/03/2008
- SoCalNick I'm a Fan of SoCalNick 80 fans permalink
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That is why they keep bringing SEXISM and the KIDS up all the time..they are distracting people and it is working

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 09/03/2008
- Yesnik I'm a Fan of Yesnik 2 fans permalink

I would love to see Fox News defend this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 09/03/2008

But does she hate it more than Rev Wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 09/03/2008

Did she OR Todd serve in the United States Marine Corp AND the United States Navy?

Did she OR Todd care for a sitting United States President?

Does she OR Todd hold a Master's Degree or Doctorate from THIS great country?

Who really hates the United States?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 09/03/2008
- abigail1 I'm a Fan of abigail1 33 fans permalink

The party of Abraham Lincoln is going to nominate a secessionist for vice president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 09/03/2008
- ggirl00 I'm a Fan of ggirl00 6 fans permalink

Move over Rev. Wright ... hello Joe Vogler. This is bad. This is really bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 09/03/2008
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The radicalization of America, its coming folks, the Michigan Militia and the Timothy McVeigh types of this world are trying to get their foot in the door of the white house, what will happen if they succeed is anyone’s guess?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 09/03/2008

They better hide those tapes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 09/03/2008
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OK, let's assume that Sarah Palin was not a member of the AIP as the State of Alaska says. They did confirmed however that her husband has been a member. Now, remember Michelle Obama's little remark about being proud of America for the first time? All hell broke loose in the MSM. Well, here is a spouse that belonged to an organization that wants to not only secure independence of Alaska from the United States but also dissolve the federal government. Yes, you read that right. This is not a an off the cuff remark, this is joining an active organization to achieve these goals. This is not just unpatriotic but traitorous. Although she may not have technically joined, does she hold these same beliefs? A number of individuals confirm her presence at the 1994 AIP Convention. As governor, she also sent a video greeting to this year's AIP convention. Should something happen to McCain and she becomes the president, her closest advisor, her husband, would hold these radical, anti-American beliefs and she may as well. This is very scary people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 09/03/2008
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Sorry for the duplicate post. Moderator, please delete one if you wish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 09/03/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Calling for the dissolution of the government in and of itself is not traitorous. We do have freedom of speech here. Putting those words into actions is when the traitor line is crossed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 09/03/2008
- SoCalNick I'm a Fan of SoCalNick 80 fans permalink
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I guess you missed the part of the video when they praise members who have " INFILTRATED" Major Parties. He includes SARAH PALIN in that group.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 09/03/2008

I am curious as to if any of you who insisted she was a member of the party will now apologize. I'll be shocked if huffingtonpost.com puts this story on their site.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/

She was not a member, check the link.

I thought I read somewhere a few days ago that she spoke at the 1994 convention because it was in the town where she was mayor, but I could be mistaken.

In any event, what is the big deal if an elected official (Governor), chooses to address a section of the Alaskan community? I thought our elected officials are supposed to represent everyone. San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders addressed the girl scouts at the "Operation Thin Mint" send off that I took my daughter's troop to in May. Does this now make him a girl scout? And don't try to take this out to some illogical extreme- she is not speaking to NAMBLA or the KKK or something.

And why should it be an issue if her husband was a member? He is an adult who is free to affiliate with anyone he chooses to. I do recall that when Michelle Obama was linked to the hospital board that had an active practice of directing non-insured patients away from the facility, it was conisdered an attack to bring it up and it did not reflect Obama's viewpoints, which it does not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 09/03/2008
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If Michelle Obama had belonged to a group that called to dissolve the US federal government and for Illinois to become a separate entity from the US, do you really think it would NOT be discussed by the RNC and the MSM? This goes right to the heart of someone's love of country. And with her being a heart beat away from the presidency, it is a fair question as to whether she shares these same views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 09/07/2008
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