Peggy Noonan, Mike Murphy Caught On Tape Disparaging Palin Choice: "Political Bullshit," "Gimmicky"

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First Posted: 09- 3-08 04:35 PM   |   Updated: 10- 4-08 05:12 AM

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Update: Peggy Noonan addressed the open mic incident in the Wall Street Journal, and claimed that the "It's over" remark was not in reference to the McCain campaign but rather to the days when the Republican party could assume its base represented the mainstream American opinion:

When the segment was over and MSNBC was in commercial, Todd, Murphy and I continued our conversation, talking about the Palin choice overall. We were speaking informally, with some passion -- and into live mics. An audio tape of that conversation was sent, how or by whom I don't know, onto the internet. And within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is "over", as it says in the transcript of the conversation. Here I must plead some confusion. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. "The first lesson they learned is the one they remember," I said to Todd -- and I'm pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that's over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. And when I said, "It's over!" -- and I said it more than once -- that is what I was referring to. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. I did not say it, and do not think it. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn't know, but that we just might find "This IS a country for old men." That is, McCain may well win. I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that "It's over."


Original Post: Wall Street Journal columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan and former John McCain adviser, Time columnist, and MSNBC contributor Mike Murphy were caught on tape disparaging John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running mate.

"It's over," Noonan said.

When Chuck Todd asked her if this was the most qualified woman the Republicans could nominate, Noonan responded, "The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives. Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and that's not what they're good at, they blow it."

Murphy characterized the choices as "cynical" and "gimmicky."

Watch (the dialogue in question starts 38 seconds in, full transcript is below the video):



Chuck Todd: Mike Murphy, lots of free advice, we'll see if Steve Schmidt and the boys were watching. We'll find out on your blackberry. Tonight voters will get their chance to hear from Sarah Palin and she will get the chance to show voters she's the right woman for the job Up next, one man who's already convinced and he'll us why Gov. Jon Huntsman. (cut away)


Peggy Noonan: Yeah.

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Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys -- this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it's not gonna work. And --

PN: It's over.

MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.

CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too.

PN: Saw Kay this morning.

CT: Yeah, she's never looked comfortable about this --

MM: They're all bummed out.

CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?

PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this -- excuse me-- political bullshit about narratives --

CT: Yeah they went to a narrative.

MM: I totally agree.

PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it.

MM: You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.

CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky.

MM: Yeah.


Update: Peggy Noonan addressed the open mic incident in the Wall Street Journal, and claimed that the "It's over" remark was not in reference to the McCain campaign but rather to the days when the Rep...
Update: Peggy Noonan addressed the open mic incident in the Wall Street Journal, and claimed that the "It's over" remark was not in reference to the McCain campaign but rather to the days when the Rep...
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Ahhh! my Favorite ooopps moment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 09/04/2008

Noonan's got it wrong. The presidential race is never about experience. Look to the past. The first Bush was the most experienced we've had in 70 years. If the Dems went for experience, Richardson would be the nominee. The presidential race is a popularity contest. You've got to be a leader able to gain followers with your idealism. That's what we've seen with Obama. That's what your seeing with Palin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 09/04/2008
- yngcelt I'm a Fan of yngcelt 2 fans permalink

And that's what we saw with Bill Clinton as well!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 09/05/2008
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Peggy, YOU are so over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 09/04/2008
- Cherlesq I'm a Fan of Cherlesq 2 fans permalink

Wrong. Peggy is so right. So is Murphy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 09/04/2008

I find CT's exchanges the most incriminating. PN and MM are Repub yes (wo)men. CT is supposedly a neutral TV analyst and commentator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 09/04/2008
- Bart Motes - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Bart Motes 13 fans permalink

How so? Since both Republicans were disgusted, you can hardly see CT's questions as partisan. He could be a die-hard Republican and think it was crass and demeaning to people's intelligence to pick Palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 09/04/2008
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Peggy Noonan is a horrible liar. Listen, Peggy, you goofed up. Everyone knows it. Accept it and move on. And by the way, you were right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 09/04/2008

So true, Yo Peggy, Liar, Liar pants on fire!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 09/05/2008
- jwatso7 I'm a Fan of jwatso7 32 fans permalink

24 hours after seeing this for the first time on Huff Post, I've not seen it anywhere else. When Jesse Jackson dropped an N-bomb on Fox News, it was on every media outlet in the country for a week. Why isn't this being picked up and played elsewhere? Liberal media, my eye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 09/04/2008

OMG! You are so right on. We were just talking about the same thing a few hours ago. I wasted my time watching those stupid republican strategist praise Sarah, and never did they mention Peg and Mikes major screw up. Uggg. I hate watching the news now. They all cover the same crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 09/05/2008

What experience are the pundits harping about that certain candidates lack? Is it public office experience or having been elected? Is it political experience? Is it state or federal experience? What is it or which is it? All of the above? Let's have some specifics. Perhaps, folks switch up their voting criteria to suit themselves because they have no problem electing actors and pro-wrestlers into public office. I'm still trying to understand what experience Ronald Reagan, Sonny Bono, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse "The Body" Ventura had before they took office. Or even Bush Jr.? Can you say "double standard"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 09/04/2008
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All pugs...cept Jesse the "independent." I'll never forget the bumper sticker I saw on a Minnesota car a month or so after he was elected..."Our governor can beat up your governor."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 09/04/2008
- pjean I'm a Fan of pjean 12 fans permalink

ok, so what's next, will she say that it wasn't her on the hot microphone. What BS she flat out said that this was political BS. Maybe she thinks we are stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 09/04/2008

This was the first real truth out of their mouths. When the camera comes back on, the embellishments will continue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 09/04/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 09/04/2008
- yngcelt I'm a Fan of yngcelt 2 fans permalink

I totally agree. If Obama is elected, we all suffer from higher taxes and lowered national security!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 09/04/2008
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yeah like you benefited from the bush tax cuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 09/04/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 09/04/2008
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I liked Peggy Noonan's book "What I saw at the Revolution" but that was a long time ago and dems might want to go along with the repubs and allow Palin to be connected to Reagan as much as possible. That way they can watch her fade away in a rocking chair together with all the other old Reagan fogies who are totally irrelevant - like the republican party today which is being voted out of office in droves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 09/04/2008
- Darkdonnie I'm a Fan of Darkdonnie 5 fans permalink

20 years till she retires I will go for 20 more years except we need to get the congress back to get some real work done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 09/04/2008
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SO THIS IS WHAT THEY REALLY THINK. Not so on the TV msm.......

This is refreshing and thruthful. (I can now give up cigarettes!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 09/04/2008

Peggy I liked you until you couldn't stand up for what you said. Shame on you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 09/04/2008
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Do tell Peggy, how you really feel ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 09/04/2008
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