Female Clinton Supporters In Focus Groups See Talent, Mudslinging In Palin's Speech

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First Posted: 09- 4-08 01:28 AM   |   Updated: 10- 4-08 05:12 AM

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In two different focus groups of Clinton-supporting Nevada women -- married and unmarried -- conducted immediately after Gov. Sarah Palin's Wednesday night speech to the Republican National Convention, a few common reactions quickly took shape.

First, women in both groups were impressed with Palin's speaking ability and poise. But they were hardly convinced that she was qualified to be vice president, or that she truly represented the "change" they were looking for, especially in light of what was deemed an overly harsh "sarcasm" pervading her address.

The (mostly) anonymous proceedings were webcast live to reporters, who were told in a press release that the Nevada focus groups would include "some former Hillary Clinton supporters who are now undecided or are weak supporters of Barack Obama or John McCain." No party identification was made available, though the approximately two dozen women were reportedly between 30 and 60 years old.

In the "married" group, when one attendee kicked off the discussion by saying "she's a good speaker, and a crowd pleaser," the rest of the room articulated their agreement. "I didn't expect to be as impressed as I was," said another respondent. But then another woman added: "Once she started mudslinging, I thought, it's the same old crap as other politicians. McCain used her to get the women's vote. And she's using McCain."

"Thank you," another woman responded. "That really upset me; there was no need for that. It was snippy."

The unmarried group also voiced similar objections to the harsh, partisan edge of Palin's remarks. "I'm not impressed with her at all as a person," one said, citing her "finger pointing" and general sarcasm after the group had generally agreed that she was a talented public speaker.

Still not all focus group members thought Palin came off too harsh. "She didn't seem very aggressive to me at all," said one unmarried participant.

But in both groups, narrow majorities said they held a more negative view of Palin after her speech. "She comes off pretty cutthroat," said one.

On other issues, women in both groups said they wanted to hear more of Palin's own policy views, outside the realm of energy. Education, heath care, the economy and Iraq were all cited as areas in which women were hungry for more information -- especially in light of McCain's age. "I think America is concerned, because of McCain's age, that we're gonna have a female president who's maybe inexperienced. The nation needs to know what her issues are," said one married respondent, which prompted another to add: "I don't think she's got what it takes." An unmarried participant said she had yet to hear enough "in regards to her personal views, which could be implicated on us if McCain was to die."

When prompted to respond to Palin's steadfast opposition to abortion -- even in cases of rape or incest -- no woman in either group stepped forward to defend the Alaskan Republican. "I don't dig that," said one married woman, matter of factly.

But there were other points on which the participants expressed pride in Palin's achievement. "She earned what she's got -- as far as not marrying into it. I like that about her," said one married respondent. "Let's hope she has a good showing," said another who had expressed disappointment over Palin's abortion views.

The groups -- which were coordinated by Anna Greenberg and Stan Greenberg of Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner Research -- were commissioned by the Women's Voices/Women Vote Action Fund, which describes itself as "dedicated to encouraging unmarried women to bring their voices to our nation's political conversation and to advocate for policies important to them."

In two different focus groups of Clinton-supporting Nevada women -- married and unmarried -- conducted immediately after Gov. Sarah Palin's Wednesday night speech to the Republican National Convention...
In two different focus groups of Clinton-supporting Nevada women -- married and unmarried -- conducted immediately after Gov. Sarah Palin's Wednesday night speech to the Republican National Convention...
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I hope this makes Hillary mad, REALLY MAD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 09/04/2008
- BlueAsh I'm a Fan of BlueAsh 5 fans permalink

Are you kiddin'? Hillary must be thrilled! There's no better outcome for her than having a woman, Palin, to beat down on Obama so that Hillary herself gets to run again in four years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 09/04/2008

Seriously, do you believe that Americans are stupid or just you. Who is going to allow the Republicans take us trough another 4 years of H -E- double hockey sticks!!! Not I said the peanut gallery!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 09/04/2008
- whognu I'm a Fan of whognu 6 fans permalink

The woman had no substance and tried to camoflauge that fact with a bunch of noise and drama. Well, I don't like drama and this country doesn't need it. What this nation needs is well-thought solutions to a plethora of serious issues. Another four years of this type of tripe, America will be flushed so far down the tubes we'll be hard pressed to ever regain our footing. There is a great deal at stake here, make no mistake. Far too much at stake to fall for these simplistic, divisive headgames being presented by the GOP as a meager substitute for a real platform. A broken economy, multiple warfronts, health care issues, etc., and the best they have to offer is more hatred delivered in a third-rate standup comic hack style in a feeble effort to obscure the real issues. Once again, distract the people and they won't notice you have no answers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 09/04/2008
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Palin, Clinton has to be grateful for what you did last night. Since I saw you and heard your hateful and empty rhetoric, I find myself respecting Hillary again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 09/04/2008
- fredamae I'm a Fan of fredamae 54 fans permalink

I am a HRC Supporter....I found her to be "coached", her "experience stretched and described as "transferable skills"....which could land you a better position in some industries...but DOES NOT QUALIFY ONE FOR PRESIDENT! Yes, I said "president" because the odds are most assuredly in
Her favor that she would become "Commander in chief" at somepoint during the next 4 years.

Not good! This Hillary supporter sees past the "equipment" and into the eyes and souls of these 2 and it is dark and scary in there.

For those of you who believe your support for the Pubs will somehow vindicate HRC's lost bid....YOU have to LIVE with the consequences too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 09/04/2008
- Lesjoan I'm a Fan of Lesjoan 2 fans permalink

I am a former Hillary voter and I like her she seems genuine and feisty I will vote for McCain not because of Palin but because of John McCain who had the guts to put a strong woman on his ticket!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 09/04/2008
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Please, don't make a fool of yourself. If you're really a woman, read what you wrote once more and understand the pure stupidity of your position. It is scary and it's the kind of people like you who got this country in a mess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 09/04/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 16 fans permalink

Strong ? ???? You mean bitchy. there is a difference. They are talking down the fact that her husband is an oil executive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 09/04/2008

If you vote for a ticket that promises to overturn Roe v Wade, is against equal pay for equal work and may re-enact the draft, then you were / are not a true HRC supporter. Your reasoning is insulting to all the women that have and are working for equality, choice, healthcare, education etc.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 09/04/2008
- ezbreezer I'm a Fan of ezbreezer 7 fans permalink
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Obviously, this barracuda bites !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 09/04/2008

I find it hard to believe you were a HRC voter. McCain/Palin name one piece of the thier platform that is like HRC's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 09/04/2008
- VegasBabe I'm a Fan of VegasBabe 201 fans permalink
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Shutup....do what your told......you will NOT have any real voice in the McCain administration....you were chosen NOT for your brilliance but lack thereof.....and willingness to again, do what your told, and stay away from the media because you have nothing to say about the economy because you have no credentials in that arena, nor with foreign policy, or the war in Iraq, look pretty, say exactly what we tell you to say, then hideout until we tell you to surface. The repugs can ASK you to do anything they want. DOING it is another matter altogether. We'll use her to be our "lipstck" and grab some of those HRC voters, that's why your here.
We don't need minorities, just white folks willing to buy into our hate messages and scare tactics, and she's white, if you want to play in this game, you'll do what your told. Use God when necessary.
The feminist movement......"we've come a long way baby"



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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 09/04/2008

Palin's speech left this former Clinton supporter filled with two emotions: fear and loathing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 09/04/2008
- 112985 I'm a Fan of 112985 5 fans permalink

I WAS HILLARY SUPPORTERAND NOW I AM PALIN SUPPORTER!!!! YOU HIT IT OUT THE PARK LAST NIGHT. I WAS JUST GOING TO STAY HOME AND NOT VOTE BECAUSE HOW OBAMA DISSED CLINTON - HE DISRESPECT HER AND I CANNOT GET OVER IT!!! THE MEDIA WAS FOR OBAMA AND THEY BELITTLED HER - I HAVE TO TAKE MY HAT OFF WE GOT A WOMAN AND I WILL VOTE FOR HER!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 09/04/2008

Voting for a woman who called Hillary a whiner and, more important, is her polar opposite in terms of the issues makes zero sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 09/04/2008

Right forget about the issues that HIllary stood for, right? You people are unbelievable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 09/04/2008

If you vote for a ticket that promises to overturn Roe v Wade, is against equal pay for equal work and may re-enact the draft, then you were / are not a true HRC supporter. Your reasoning is insulting to all the women that have and are working for equality, choice, healthcare, education etc.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 09/04/2008
- claylandg I'm a Fan of claylandg 3 fans permalink

me too!! I also was an hillary supporter and stil am, It made me feel so good for palin to stick it to Obama lastnight Hillary had trouble do it this way since the media was so in the tank for him and hated everything hillary did or say hell the video hasn't even vetted him yet.Go Sarah!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 09/04/2008
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Last night's speech said more about her character and personality than anything else - and it was all negative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 09/04/2008
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 15 fans permalink

Day 3 & still no economy???
Wow the Rupublicans must have something up their sleeve. Maybe the oil Co.s will help em' out by dropping the price of gas, Oh wait they are... Maybe they'll pull a fast shoring up of the dollar to try & divert our attention, Oh wait they are. The question is will we forget so quickly this time??? It didn't work in 06' & I don't think it works this time either....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 09/04/2008
- TheApeMan I'm a Fan of TheApeMan 4 fans permalink

I guess John "I don't know much about the economy" McCain will give the details on how to fix it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 09/04/2008
- Margij I'm a Fan of Margij 2 fans permalink

Divisive and sarcastic. Community Organizers around the country will now organize to get out the vote, against her. You really should think before you speak someone else's words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 09/04/2008
- brabra I'm a Fan of brabra 8 fans permalink

WHERE IS HILLARY CLINTON?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 09/04/2008
- Concerned1 I'm a Fan of Concerned1 2 fans permalink

Hillary Clinton will respond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 09/04/2008
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 15 fans permalink

All I heard were attacks & red meat with no substance or real proposals. I heard Sarah's (& the Republican's interpretations of what Obama's proposals mean) but unlike before, Obama specifically laid out his proposals last week & they sounded NOTHING like what the Repubs tried to tell US last night.
If all they have AGAIN is lies fear & smear plus an under qualified VP nominee who wasn't properly vetted I pray for our Country that Obama/ Biden win this election. I wont denigrate McCain's service to our Country, it's admirable. But he was NOT a high acheiver in any way shape or form. Refusing his release from a POW camp earns him respect & he should certainly hold his head high. What it does NOT earn him is the Presidency. For that we need a combination of traits that I don't believe McCain has been consistent enough on. Watching the CNN revealed series back to back is pretty revealing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 09/04/2008

If I had wanted to watch a smartass sling one-liners at Obama, I would have watched Jay Leno. Where was the substance, the meat of the Republican plan to repair what the Republicans have done for the last eight years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 09/04/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 70 fans permalink

Me too. Actually, I prefer Letterman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 09/04/2008
- lennix I'm a Fan of lennix 7 fans permalink

NOT THIS TIME

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 09/04/2008

Did they dress her in Laura Bush's clothes? They are purposely trying to make look like a librarian so she is better received by the old bitties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 09/04/2008
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Who did her hair last night? They should be fired.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 09/04/2008
- 112985 I'm a Fan of 112985 5 fans permalink

Come on she was dressed very classy just like Laur Bush - i did not her a comment Michelle had on that purple flower dress!!! that was not for her at all!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 09/04/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 70 fans permalink

Of course, she is going to dress conservatively; she is a conservative. You can bet that she won't be seen wearing a pant suit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 09/04/2008
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