Obama-Biden, McCain-Palin Set Off With 60 Days Until November

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ANDREW TAYLOR | September 5, 2008 11:08 AM EST | AP

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Republican presidential candidate, Sen., John McCain, R-Ariz., listens to the applause of supporters after his nomination acceptance speech at the last night of the Republican National Convention at the Exel Convention Center in St. Paul, Minn., Thursday, Sept. 4, 2008. (AP Photo/Stephan Savoia)

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Invigorated by back-to-back political conventions, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama grappled for the mantle of change Friday as the fall race for the presidency took off in states teeming with the independent voters they needed to win.

Within hours of accepting the Republican nomination, McCain sent an e-mail appeal for donations arguing that he and running mate Sarah Palin stood for reform in Washington. He also denounced "Democratic operatives" whom he said "have stooped lower than anyone could have imagined."

The dig appeared to be a reference to Palin's announcement earlier this week that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter was five months' pregnant. Alaska's governor said Internet rumors about her family had led her to reveal her daughter's pregnancy.

Palin, who has stayed out of reach of reporters, was expected to continue making joint appearances with McCain through Saturday before returning to Alaska for a short visit. She was expected to begin campaigning on her own Monday in Florida.

McCain's selection of Palin as his running mate is drawing a mostly favorable though partisan response from the public, an ABC News poll said Friday. People also have substantial doubts about her experience, and her selection is having little impact on who they're likely to support.

By 50 percent to 37 percent, they have a positive impression of her _ less than their 54 percent to 30 percent favorable view of Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden. Eighty-five percent of Republicans, 24 percent of Democrats and 53 percent of independents have a positive opinion of Palin.

People say her choice makes them likelier to vote for the McCain ticket by a slender 25 percent to 19 percent _ less than the 12-point margin by which Biden makes them likelier to support Obama. Just 42 percent say Palin has the experience necessary to serve as president.

Strategists for the campaigns argued Friday that McCain and Obama would be engaged in debate over new directions for public policy.

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"John McCain has a record of fighting to change," McCain strategist Steve Schmidt told "Today" on NBC. For Obama, he said, change is "a nice word, it's a campaign tactic ... it's nonsense."

Obama strategist David Axelrod countered that McCain was offering the policies of the Bush administration. "Last night Sen. McCain used the word 'change,' but the policies that he describes were very familiar," Axelrod said on "The Early Show" on CBS. "This isn't change, this is more of the same."

Buoyed by a unifying GOP convention and Palin's appeal to conservatives he had had trouble winning over, McCain vowed Thursday night to vanquish the "constant partisan rancor" he said was plaguing the nation.

"I will reach out my hand to anyone to help me get this country moving again," he said.

McCain and Palin left Minnesota immediately after his speech, bound for Democratic-tilting Wisconsin. Obama planned campaign and fundraising events in Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

In a convention speech lasting nearly an hour, McCain promised before a nationwide television audience to govern as a political maverick with a bipartisan bent. And he reminded voters of the 5 1/2 years he spent in a North Vietnamese prison.

"I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's," he said. "I was never the same again. I wasn't my own man anymore. I was my country's."

His speech capped the party convention, but Palin was arguably the star, electrifying Republicans Wednesday in a slashing speech against Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware. She is the first female running mate in GOP history.

The 72-year-old McCain, campaigning to become the oldest first-term president in history, presented himself as a reformer willing to take on his fellow Republicans, including an unpopular President Bush. He chastised Republicans for falling prey to the temptations of power before voters deprived them of their majorities in the House and Senate two years ago.

"We were elected to change Washington, and we let Washington change us," McCain said. "We lost the trust of the American people when some Republicans gave in to the temptations of corruption."

McCain's speech was largely devoid of the partisan edge that characterized Palin's, which was aimed at solidifying conservative and evangelical voters behind the GOP ticket. Democrats countered that Palin was long on personal attacks and short on remedies for the nation's troubles.

Palin, 44, has been under a media microscope since McCain tapped her last week, but she seems to have energized Republicans heading into the fall campaign. Virtually unknown nationally a week ago, Palin has faced heavy scrutiny relating to her tenure as mayor of tiny Wasilla, Alaska, and her 20 months as governor of the sparsely populated state.

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Invigorated by back-to-back political conventions, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama grappled for the mantle of change Friday as the fall race for the presidency...
ST. PAUL, Minn. — Invigorated by back-to-back political conventions, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama grappled for the mantle of change Friday as the fall race for the presidency...
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From a person at macs wisconsin rally.

"Christina Brockhaus, 30, of West Bend wasn't close enough during the speeches to see the stage, so she climbed the railing of temporary bleachers near the stage afterward, but the most she could see was Cindy McCain's blond hair.

"I would have kil*led to see Sarah Palin," she said.

Brockhaus said that as a moderate Republican she found both John McCain's and Palin's speeches "refreshin­g."
"I'm a (deer) hun*ting mom, and I just think she's phenomenal," Brockhaus said of Palin. "Everything about her appeals to me."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 09/05/2008
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Bused in desperate Republicans.

Staged.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 09/05/2008
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Do you have a point to make?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 09/05/2008
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That would be a first for BP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 09/05/2008
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The key word is Republican. They are all delusional like you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 09/05/2008
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Wisconsin: Obama leads McCain 47 percent to 42 percent in a Strategic Vision poll conducted Aug. 8-10. The margin of error is three points

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 09/05/2008

Maybe the Repubs should start staging the fainting routines like Zero did until he got called out on it. Then they abruptly stopped.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 09/05/2008
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you've said you're in favor of abortion if the woman is a victim of ra pe or in cest. why are you selling out to palin, who is fanatically anti-choice? flipflopper, or hypocrite? or maybe both

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 09/05/2008

From a person at macs wisconsin rally.

"Christina Brockhaus, 30, of West Bend wasn't close enough during the speeches to see the stage, so she climbed the railing of temporary bleachers near the stage afterward, but the most she could see was Cindy McCain's blond hair.

"I would have killed to see Sarah Palin," she said.

Brockhaus said that as a moderate Republican she found both John McCain's and Palin's speeches "refreshin­g."
"I'm a (deer) hunting mom, and I just think she's phenomenal," Brockhaus said of Palin. "Everything about her appeals to me."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 09/05/2008

If McCain/palin is elected your daughter's will be having abortions in unsafe places and conditions. Mark my word, they will ban abortion. If you have daughters like I do, you should be worried. You never know if they need that option one day(of course you hope they won't.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 09/05/2008

No president has the ability to stop abortion. All they could conceivably do is remove federal protection for abortion.
State law would then determine the legality of abortion. If most people across the country want to keep abortion legal then the states will do that individually. States are supposed to write the laws that affect the lives of the American citizenry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 09/05/2008

Actually, your not quite correct. The President can do nothing legislatively to abortion rights. He can, however, appoint the next swing justice who would overtyurn Roe v. Wade. It would not, as some suggest, then be a states rights issue. The Supreme Court would, in overturning Roe, determine that life begins at conception. That would be the purpose behind appointing ideologue justices. That decision becomes a floor not a ceiling, meaning that no abortion could occur as per the ruling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 09/05/2008

Man…I think they are starting to realize what a mistake it was to choose a running mate just so that they could win the election. It seems to me that they forgot about one teensy tiny detail: what happens if they win?

http://longshotpolitics.wordpress.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 09/05/2008
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When is a tro// going to defend McBush's lousy record on veterans issues?

I've been waiting for months for a tro// to explain it to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 09/05/2008
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Did you know he was a POW?

No foolin'!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 09/05/2008
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Wow! He should use that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 09/05/2008
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People stop feeding the tro//s. Their one liners are filled with as many lies as Palin's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 09/05/2008
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Palin is now a known L I A R just like McCain, Bush, Cheney and all the Rethuglicans. Palin like the other l ying Rethuglicans keeps on telling her lie over and over. Palin was the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. Palin just thinks the public is too ignorant to notice. The last thing we need are two more L I A R S in the white house after the last eight years.

"Palin may have said "Thanks, but no thanks" on the Bridge to Nowhere, though not until Congress had pretty much k_illed it already. But that was a sharp turnaround from the position she took during her gubernatorial campaign, and the town where she was mayor received lots of earmarks during her tenure."

Following are some of the lies factcheck.org a nonpartisan group called out the Rethuglicans on during Wednesday night at their lie fest.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 09/05/2008
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I liked this one too:

Huckabee told conventioneers and TV viewers that Palin got more votes when she ran for mayor of Wasilla than Biden did running for president. Not even close. The tally: Biden, 79,754, despite withdrawing from the race after the Iowa caucuses. Palin, 909 in her 1999 race, 651 in 1996.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 09/05/2008
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Seems that Rev. Huckabeans better be praying for forgiveness for knowingly breaking the 9th commandment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 09/05/2008
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Palin is now a known L I A R just like McCain, Bush, Cheney and all the Rethuglicans. Palin like the other lying Rethuglicans keeps on telling her lie over and over. Palin was the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. Palin just thinks the public is too stupid to notice. The last thing we need are two more L I A R S in the white house after the last eight years.

"Palin may have said "Thanks, but no thanks" on the Bridge to Nowhere, though not until Congress had pretty much killed it already. But that was a sharp turnaround from the position she took during her gubernatorial campaign, and the town where she was mayor received lots of earmarks during her tenure."

Following are some of the lies factcheck.org a nonpartisan group called out the Rethuglicans on during Wednesday night at their L I E fest.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 09/05/2008
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Palin is now a known L I A R just like McCain, Bush, Cheney and all the Rethuglicans. Palin like the other lying Rethuglicans keeps on telling her lie over and over. Palin was the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. Palin just thinks the public is too stupid to notice. The last thing we need are two more L I A R S in the white house after the last eight years.

"Palin may have said “Thanks, but no thanks” on the Bridge to Nowhere, though not until Congress had pretty much killed it already. But that was a sharp turnaround from the position she took during her gubernatorial campaign, and the town where she was mayor received lots of earmarks during her tenure."

Following are some of the lies factcheck.org a nonpartisan group called out the Rethuglicans on during Wednesday night at their lie fest.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 09/05/2008

Okay, one more and I gotta run. This is from the first reading at last Sunday's Mass. It's from the book of prophet Jeremiah (of all people!), and it describes you followers of the Lord Messiah perfectly:

"You duped me, O Lord, and i let myself be duped."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 09/05/2008
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I don't know if I'd caller her the Lord Messiah just because of a 31 minute speech written by someone else, but you're more than welcome to your opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 09/05/2008

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"She has the maturity of a teenager."

Sarah is the governor of Alaska and VP nominee and your claim to fame is trashing a woman and her family behind a login name on a blog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 09/05/2008
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Quote:

"A number of other disputes flared up and died down in the first year. The Frontiersman, which sparred with Palin frequently at first, accused her of rolling her eyes and making faces at city council meetings when she heard testimony she didn't like.

- Anchorage Daily News

That is the maturity of a teenager.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/05/2008

And more than likely the drive by poster changed socks to do it. There are a few here that know how to make rare appearance to back up their juvenile @ttacks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/05/2008
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Tr0lls use socks. SCG is right above and below you, f00l.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 09/05/2008
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oh, the irony...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 09/05/2008
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"Is trashing" women.

do you not understand that your continually claims of se xism when there is no se xism doesn't help your party?

We all saw this coming, and were all anticipating to see if this Governor would be exploited. Most wom en including my wife honestly didn't believe you'd stoop this low to believe that wom en in this country are honestly as daft as you seem to have been lead to believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 09/05/2008
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P.S. Bradley ,it was you that pretended to be a PUMA and a staunch supporter of Hillary, later we both learned that wasn't true, you were just a Republican playing on the internet.

A fraud.

Would you like me to produce your posts to prove it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 09/05/2008

Maybe he just changed his mind about who he wants to vote for. He has that right you know?

Besides when Zero changes his mind on positions every other day, he is considered brilliant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 09/05/2008
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Your headline, "The World is Watching", and Palin probably doesn't even know a lot of basic geography!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 09/05/2008
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...and the likelihood of John "Rand" McNally giving her the lowdown?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 09/05/2008
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All McCain talks about is the 20th century. When is he going to get around to talking about the 21st century? Does he think the 21st century is all about the Vietnam war?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 09/05/2008
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wait, Mcstain said that he will fight corrupt in washington

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 09/05/2008

Why is Hillary going out on the campaign trail to support Obama?

I thought the Obamas hated her guts. I thought the Obama followers hated her guts. The people on these boards did for months. So why do they want this woman to go out and support him now? They attacked her relentlessly for months, the media attacked her relentlessly for months - and now she is going out to speak on his behalf.

I love how her name constantly comes up even though she is out of the picture, by both sides. Hillary - the human punching bag who can never do anything right.

She needs to take a long vacation somewhere far away. If I were her I'd say the hell to you all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 09/05/2008
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Probably because she realizes the party is not a party of one-- well, two. This is the fate of the country we're talking about. Knock off the petty sh*t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/05/2008
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Because she's a Democrat.

This isn't about personalities anymore. This is about policies and principles, and an awareness and understanding that the people who are currently in office need to be held to account.

Why is she supporting Ob ama? Because she, like 100 million others don't see this as an election about anything other than its citizens demanding their nation back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/05/2008
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But you're not her...and you don't have her judgement, charisma, or smarts. That's why she's where she is today...an­d that's why you're here, on a blog, trying to "psych" everyone out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/05/2008

Oh please. You were probably one of the people talking about how much you hated her guts a month ago.

Now you think she has charisma and smarts. Save the sanctimonious crap. You are on the blog too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 09/05/2008
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I thought that Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Rudolph W. Giuliani voters h*ted Mcstains guts?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/05/2008
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She will kick your pitbull with lipsticks as s

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 09/05/2008
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Amen Hillary has more real courage and intelligence in her pinky than Palin has in her whole body.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 09/05/2008

I don't like Palin's politics either.

That is not my point. The point is Obama and the Kennedy's can't stand HIllary. Obama lovers can't stand her. They all treated her like dirt and garbage. So why are they using her to help the campaign?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 09/05/2008
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