Obama Takes First Direct Shot At Palin

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First Posted: 09- 6-08 03:31 PM   |   Updated: 10- 7-08 05:12 AM

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TERRE HAUTE, Ind. — Barack Obama made his first direct criticism of Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin on Saturday, saying she pretends to oppose spending earmarks when she actually has embraced them.

Speaking to 800 people at the Wabash Valley Fairgrounds in Terre Haute, Ind., the Democratic presidential nominee ridiculed John McCain and his running mate, the Alaska governor, for describing themselves as agents of change at this week's GOP convention.

"Don't be fooled," Obama told the crowd surrounding him in a large barn. "John McCain's party, with the help of John McCain, has been in charge" for nearly eight years.

"I know the governor of Alaska has been saying she's change, and that's great," Obama said. "She's a skillful politician. But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up."

McCain has vowed to wipe out earmarks, which are targeted funding for specific projects that lawmakers put into spending bills. As governor, Palin originally supported earmarks for a controversial Alaska project dubbed the "bridge to nowhere." But she dropped her support after the state's likely share of the cost rose. She hung onto $27 million to build the approach road to the bridge.

Until Saturday, Obama had refrained from criticizing Palin directly, saying only that she, like McCain, would continue the Bush administration's policies.

Democrats have debated how to deal with Palin. They want to avoid charges of sexism but find ways to highlight what they see as her political weaknesses.

Obama delivered some of his most withering criticisms yet of McCain, although he did so with chuckles and an air of mock disbelief. McCain has acknowledged voting with President Bush 90 percent of the time in Congress, Obama said.

"And suddenly he's the change agent? Ha. He says, 'I'm going to tell those lobbyists that their days of running Washington are over.' Who is he going to tell? Is he going to tell his campaign chairman, who's one of the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington? Is he going to tell his campaign manager, who was one of the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington?"

"I mean, come on, they must think you're stupid," Obama said as the crowd laughed and cheered.

The McCain campaign noted that Obama has steered numerous earmarks to his state of Illinois. However, Obama has not been the critic of earmarks that McCain and, more recently Palin, have been.

Obama said Republicans are targeting his character, and he criticized McCain for saying he would reduce the partisan rancor in Washington. Pretending to address McCain, he said, "Did you pay attention to the last two days of your convention? Were you not watching?"

"When you start just focusing exclusively on trying to tear the other person down instead of what you are going to do on behalf of the American people to deal with this economy," Obama said, "then that's not serving Democrats, that's not serving Republicans, that's not serving anybody."

TERRE HAUTE, Ind. — Barack Obama made his first direct criticism of Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin on Saturday, saying she pretends to oppose spending earmarks when she actuall...
TERRE HAUTE, Ind. — Barack Obama made his first direct criticism of Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin on Saturday, saying she pretends to oppose spending earmarks when she actuall...
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Dear Barack,
Keep those cards and letters comming!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 09/07/2008

Stop talking about Palin. She's not worth it, & the more you talk about her, the more power you give to this shill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 09/08/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 09/08/2008

Obama has now resorted to lies. Ashame. Was hoping he was above that.

The truth is here. This shows McCain's policies are misguided, he doesn't need to resort to attackign women. That is a huge mistake.

We vote.

http://myrealitytelevision.com/2008/09/jack-cafferty-and-cnn-totally-chauvinist-male-political-attack-on-sarah-palin/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 09/07/2008

Please specify the "lie."
The link that you provided was to an article about Jack Cafferty, not Obama.
Do you allow for ANY criticism of female candidates?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 09/07/2008

The USA Today/Gallup poll came out. It has McCain up by 10 (ten) over Obama through Sunday. the continuing attacks on this woman will have McCain up even more by the middle of the week. Where Obama had a 19 % lead in the perceived handling of the economy it is down to three. Try this this link:

http://www.usatoday.com/politics/election2008/2008-09-07-poll_N.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 09/07/2008
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not up by 10, up by 1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 09/08/2008
- The5thW I'm a Fan of The5thW 6 fans permalink

You are so right! I cannot believe after 8 years of you people doing just that, that we are running a candidate who said, "You can't just make stuff up." This government and media and their right wing shills are proof that you can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 09/08/2008

He is not attacking a woman. He is attacking a potential POTUS on her policy record.

I thought that was allowed in U.S. politics My bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 09/08/2008
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am glad he said that,It makes me want to help him get the job mo am calling the obama people tommorrow to volunteer
i cant let the republiclown's steal the election again

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 09/07/2008

Obama has never served in the military nor has he walked in the shoes of our Vets. He has no experience in foreign policy and he has nothing that he's signed his name to expect his memoirs. It's easy to criticize someone when they've done something but what has he done? Oh written some good speeches. Yeah, that will get you far when across the table from the middle east, china, russia, etc. If you democrats would have picked Hillary, you might have gotten farther in this election. Not now, you're toast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 09/07/2008

We knew we needed Hillary, she knew, Bill knew, over 18 million other people did. How could we be so stupid & be so cruel to her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/07/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

a lot of those 18 million were republican votes just to keep her in the race....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 09/08/2008

he is on the senate foreign relations committee. that is good sound foreign policy experience. he has introduced and supported important legislation. you merely retell the lies the gop penned into their speeches last week. repeating them doesnt make them true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 09/07/2008

What are lies? That he's never enlisted or no foreign policy? Why do you think he picked Biden? His lack of experience, that's why. He should have picked Hillary....nah, she's too strong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 09/07/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

"repeating them doesn't make them true." but more people hear it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 09/08/2008
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Did you leave your horse and buggy parked by the barn, MomForCF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 09/08/2008
- NHGranite I'm a Fan of NHGranite 57 fans permalink
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Barack Obama has done plenty. But I am guessing no matter how much he has done, it won't be enough for those who are swayed by propaganda. 3 years as the director of a church-sponsored organization to do job training, college prep tutoring and rent control, with a staff of a dozen and a budget of $400,000; editor-in-chief of the Harvard Law Review, where he supervised 80 people and still managed to graduate "magna cum laude". Not enough for ya? here's more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 09/08/2008
- janinei I'm a Fan of janinei 15 fans permalink
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ah, yeah, and Bush had soooooooooooo much military experience, Please!! Do you think about things before you write them?? Oh, and your beloved Reagan had no military experience, but Kerry did. So what the heck does it all mean??? you can keep saying it but it does not change a thing!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 09/08/2008
- denver I'm a Fan of denver 5 fans permalink

Good for Obama! I would not wory about sexism Palin didn't whe she Called Hillary a whiner. She wants to play in the big arena she needs to be treated as all the rest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 09/07/2008

Many do not believe Barack can win unless he ran Clinton/Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 09/07/2008
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and many believe he can do just fine with Biden too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 09/08/2008

And many believe - as I do - that to have added her to the ticket would have been a colossal 180º after the debates. The comments made during that drawn out mess cost Barack valuable time he could have spent fighting the opposition - but they also exposed Hilary for the polarizing personality that she was.
For me... she still seems like an extension of what we've already been through. Sometimes, you gotta stick to your guns, no matter what people say - I think it showed great character on Barack's part to resist what would have been a popular choice for what he believed would be the RIGHT choice.
Not to mention, if you think they're selling the McCain Is A War Hero slogan hard now, imagine if they were up against Mrs. Bill Clinton... plus, Phantom Bullets in Bosnia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 09/08/2008

More of the same means just that. More tax cuts for the super rich that is NOT saving American jobs. More big spending that is costing working citizens in taxes while the rich escape and the middle class become poor. Less jobs mean: more foreclosures, defaults, high gas prices, higher groceries. McCain is the same as Bush, he probably sees him daily. If he is not he should join a different party. No one who has voted in the Republican party has enough credibility to give advice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 09/07/2008

Gov. Palin is about issues. Sen. Obama and his people are the ones who brought up the inexperience "card", so they are only getting what they want when Gov. Palin references Sen. Obama's many years of executive INexperience.
"Executive Experience" comparisons between Gov. Palin and the two Dem. nominees are not fair to Sen. Obama and Sen. Biden... but they asked for it!

Leo Pierson
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 09/07/2008

Bush's 1st speech....: I do'nt have to pay taxes, I make too much money. I have loop holes .heh,heh,heh. I watched it & listened to it in disbelief. Anyone else remember that word for word? I think it was his innauguaration sppech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 09/07/2008

You have got to be kidding!!! The inexperience platform was initiated by McCain prior to his naming Palin his running mate. Thus, your statement that Barack and his peole presented the card is definitely not true. McCain's campaign has been Obama is inexperienced and a celebrity, which is code word for "he's a formidable candidate for which I have nothing negative to say about." Get ready for the lose in Novemeber.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 09/07/2008

what?

what issues is sarah palin about? neither mccain or palin have talked about policy. that's what this election is about. i dont give a damn about any of the personal crap that's come out about sarah palin. it's inconsequential. if they could actually talk about issues without making crap up, that would put this election on the level.

apparently, mccain thought obama's message of change was working for him. that's why he is trying to hijack it and claim it as his own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 09/07/2008

How much "executive experience" does John McCain have?

About as much as Biden and Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 09/08/2008
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exactly what issues? all I have seen so far is george bush in a skirt, clueless and appealing to the masses because she is just as stupid as we are

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 09/08/2008
- mediahack I'm a Fan of mediahack 2 fans permalink

Barrack response to Palin's record on change sounds vaguely familar when he says says " Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up."

You'll recall Bill Clinton response on how Barack kept tweaking his story about his opposition to the war: " Give me a break! That's the biggest fairy tale I've ever heard"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 09/07/2008

well if you look at just that line, yeah, there isn't a lot of substance to it. then there's all the other stuff he said about how she took $27million in federal earmarks, etc, etc...

he talked about the ISSUES that the mccain/palin camp brought up in their speeches and dissected them to point out their inaccuracies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 09/07/2008
- collima I'm a Fan of collima 4 fans permalink

Bull$hit Alert!!!! - Alaskian Independance Party - Palin was a member, leader says.. Look at around the 6 minute mark.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc

Somebodies lying...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 09/07/2008
- mediahack I'm a Fan of mediahack 2 fans permalink

The leader later admited she was wrong about Palin. Palin was never a member, but her husband was. So think about it , if something were to happen to McCain, Palin and the Speaker of the House, the next in line would be the Vice President's spouse.
Do we really want a former member of an Alaskan Indpendence Party running this country?
Enough said.
Obama 2008!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 09/07/2008
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what? the vice presidents spouse? I don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 09/08/2008
- RobHughey I'm a Fan of RobHughey 15 fans permalink
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You comment confused me. What does any Spouse have to do with the line of succession? After the Speaker of the House is the President pro tempore of the Senate. Right now that's Robert Byrd. He's the person who stands in for the actual President of the Senate - the Vice President. After him the Executive Cabinet are all in line beginning with the Secretary of State, then Treasury and then Defense... on down the line. No spouse of any Official has any part in the Line of Succession.

I think you're thinking of the Order of Presedence, where the Spouses of the President and VP are directly related to the offices. The Order is unofficial and is really only about differing to others during State affairs and such. If Palin was VP (shudders) and something happened to her, then her husband would also lose his place in the Order, and it would go to the new Vice President and his or her spouse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 09/08/2008

Everybody needs to watch this you tube link.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 09/07/2008

This play is all about oil, oil, oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 09/07/2008

Did McCain really push a woman? You can see this more than once. He pushes Cindy to stand as a prop where he decides. Palin better watch out. She has a habit of ducking right before him and waving at the public. McCain does not look too happy about this. One of these days he is going to get her lined up, like Cindy. It is not only the being *out of line*; it is the ducking! All this we should not hold against McCain. He had a high ranking military father and grandfather, and all he knows about is military life. The military ALWAYS lines up correctly and listens to blurted out commands. then everyone marches as directed. No one ducks, certainly not before the enemy! WHAT is everyone so hot about? If Mac wins we will ALL BE MARCHING, to the mailbox, to the dumpster, to the store, one, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. Kids on the playground and in school. Order, finally! And if you get pregnant through assault, you will HAVE that child, by golly! Zum Befehl, Herr Oberlieutenant! Oh, yeah, we will know who is in command, once and for all, the Federal Government!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 09/07/2008

Reminder, Todd Palin belongs to the AIP. They are not fond of the Federal Government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 09/07/2008

Neither am I.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 09/07/2008
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neither am I, and you better bet if I ever tried to run for anything my past statements and affiliations would pretty much nip that in the bud.....if they couldn't dig up anything anti american I'd said they could sure find something my parents had said back in the 60's or 70's to keep me out of office.
So why don't Todd and Sarah have to answer for theirs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 09/08/2008

McCain will win this 2008 election. I used to vote dem but no longer. I used to watch Oprah, but no longer.I used to like Obama too, but no longer. One-sided political ideologies do not help a diverse population such as the one here in the USA. REAL CHANGE is coming with McCain/Palin's victory in 2008. McCain/Palin are a more moderate pair than Obama/Biden in terms of immigration law, health care for all, choice in education, ability to pay for higher education, economic issues, diplomatic ties, current international wars, veterans affairs, domestic partnerships vs. marriage, pro-life vs. pro-choice stances, and minority affairs to name a few.McCain/Palin2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 09/07/2008

Really? What have you been reading/watching??? MODERATE??? What have you heard regarding their economic issues that the rest of the United States hasn't?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 09/07/2008
- macracan I'm a Fan of macracan 2 fans permalink

Don't be stupid. It takes a lot of democrats, especially a president, to undo the damage that a republican senate, congress and presidency did to this country. This country needs your dem vote to redress itself. Don't abandon it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 09/07/2008
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MCPal2008, how do you know where they stand on these issues, do they ever talk about them. All I have heard in the last week is Obama bashing from them. Please point me to somewhere where I can see there position on these issues. If you think they are moderate, then I don't think you must have listened to Palins speech or read anything about her since she has been nominated. She is so far right that she is practically left. Mcsame is pretty much Bush but a little older and a bit more infirm. All he did with his pick of the pitbull is pander to the right. But you sound like you have made up your mind, so may you reap what you sew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 09/07/2008

You must be on something.. whatever it is.. can I have some?? You give no reason or proof of any kind for your statements.. Your reasoning makes no sense either.. How's a man who is 90 % Bush and a woman who is against giving women a choice over their own bodies and lives.. a recipe for change for the better? Go back to your Republican masters you unwanted troll. God some people are ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 09/07/2008

Let's talk one-sided political ideology. You think McCain/Palin are a moderate pair? The new platform of the Republican party now states they are agianst aboration even in cases of rape and incest and even when pregnancy threatens the life of the mother. Maybe I am missing something, please tell me the moderate portion of that position.I watched the whole convention just a punch of hateful drival, no substance at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 09/07/2008

Even though I think anyone who believes McCain/Palin are moderates, have a definition of moderate that does not exist in any dictionary that I use - if they are moderates, Attila the Hun was a peace keeper. But we need to be exact in facts, and on the internet, I have seen that she is OK for abortion when life of mother is at stake. Hate to think what Palin considers to be life at risk - on life support or brain dead?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 09/08/2008
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NEW RULES:

1. Republicans don"t get to whine and snivel about S.arah P.alin"s private life being invaded after they IMPEACHED A PRESIDENT over his private life.
2. Republicans don't get to attack B.arack O.bama for lacking experience when they nominated a beauty pageant contestant with ZERO foreign policy or national security experience.
3. Republicans don"t get to claim they are fiscally responsible after spending 1 TRILLION dollars on an unnecessary preemptive war to chase imaginary w.eapons of mass d.estruction.
4. Republicans don't get to blame the D.ISASTER wrought by the past 8 years of willful neglect, incompetence and malfeasance by blaming a congress barely controlled by the democrats for a mere two years in which any attempt at progress was blocked by fillabuster or veto.
5. And finally, republicans have to take responsibility for being REPUBLICANS, they don"t get to pretend they have suddenly transformed into some new and exciting "reform" party who will fix what they themselves have created in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 09/07/2008
- Kishadawn I'm a Fan of Kishadawn 2 fans permalink

That was very well put! I wish I could twitter it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 09/07/2008
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Hey! A Twitterer! :) I'm RobertHughey on Twitter if you or anyone reading this would like to follow me and let me follow you. I plan on living on Twitter during the debates. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 09/08/2008

That was the best blog I've seen. Very well written.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 09/07/2008

The New Rules were fantastic.
Thank you for the refreshing and honest response to the rhetoric that a hockey-mom, wolf killing, 2nd yr. gov. of Alaska, mother of 5, even if she fights like a pittbull, is experienced nor worthy of being a heart beat away from running our country.
Thank You

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 09/08/2008

We need to reframe the taxation issue away from the neo con warcry of "redistribution of weatlh" to the sane and responsible "paying our bills". How and when is this nation going to pay it's bills?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 09/07/2008

Amen. We have the biggest deficit ever, we need to support the baby boomers through social security (think pig passing through the body of a python), and courtesy of the republicans, we have an unbelievable debt to China funding the war. It's hard to watch the "tax cut" line because I cannot conceive of how things will get paid. I expect my son had better expect nothing. He will be too busy paying for my generation. I expect a tax increase...I see no other way to assume our mantle of debt. My blinders fell off long ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 09/07/2008

Again, I'm thinkin, we need to address the Tax Gap issue. Bloggers, please look up Tax Gap on the net. almost 1 Trillion dollras is delinquent from monies owed to US, (the taxpayers), by individuals, corporations and off shore companies, they aren't paying what they owe. This is how much it's grown since Bush has been in office. The Treasury has said so. They can't collect it-not enough people to get the money by the IRS. I pay my taxes, so should these people/companies that don't! I want them to collect delinquent taxes. Why is that so much to ask????????No campaign is talking about it. Send the bill collectors to hassle them! Come on, it's their responsibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 09/07/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 140 fans permalink

If only the mob that forms the voting majority in this country were smart enough to be moved by "paying our bills." They don't even pay their own. The tragic thing about what Obama said ("they must think you are stupid") is that, of course, they KNOIW "you are stupid." They not only know the mass of white Americans are dumb as rocks, they know exactly how to manipulate the stupidity to get these fools to vote for any candidate they give them. Hillary would have been crushed by Palin, too, maybe worse. And if Palin wins this year, look for her to crush Hillary in '12, mocking Hillary as a total Wellesley liberal phony, a limousine liberal who only pretends she's Annie Oakley, when Palin is the real thing. The mob will love that line, and boo Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 09/07/2008

Palin is'nt even a blip on Hill's radar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 09/07/2008
- RobHughey I'm a Fan of RobHughey 15 fans permalink
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I don't disagree with the underlying spirit of what you're saying - just your method. One of the ways the Republicans convince the people you're talking about to vote for the "Right" is by saying that we on the Left are so elitest and hatefully superior to anyone of average means or intelligence. People in general are gullible but not necessarily stupid, and carrying that attitude against so many people just offends them right into pushing "McCain/Palin" on November 2nd. I truly believe the Left is the ideal and moral choice in politics, and my belief is based on education and rational thought, but we will not get anyone to feel that way about our beliefs if we continue to alienate and offend them with superior and condescending actions and attitudes. We may be more educated (and yes, we may be smarter), but we have to remember that we aren't any BETTER.

...just an observation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 09/08/2008

McCain says that this election is not about positions or issues. McCain has now made it so and made himself now meaningless in this campaign.
Presidency equals Obama or Palin: I will now vote for contrition and not for the issues as McCain wishes.
Vote for Obama equals the deliverence of our Nation from its original sin of normalizing slavery for the sake of economics value.
Vote for Palin equals a vote for the second sin of men who think that it is still acceptable to have women subservient to their wishes and will at all costs, and for women who approve.
McCain divorced himself from all mature, qualified Republican or Democratic women who could have been our Commander in Chief from day one without question. Now that would break the glass ceiling.
I am not about Hillary. I am about a man who put a trophy VP for his ticket and the accomplished Palin who allowed him to use her so that Republican's can retained control of the White House.
I don't care about Palin's pregnant daughter or her handicapped son. I want to know if Palin thinks that War is or is not God's will. I want to know about what she will do about our economic woes.
I want answers to meaty questions and not hear that Palin likes to eat Moose burgers.
Palin is now the Republican's new trophy VP and McCain's base is all excited....pune intended.
Republican Woman for Obama/Biden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 09/07/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 140 fans permalink

The unanswerable problem is that Palin, like Reagan and Bush, worked like a charm with uneducated Americans. As far as they are concerned, she castrated Obama on TV. That's all that counts with the mob now. No "facts" or critiques of Palin or McCain can change this. After trailing Obama by 8 after Obama's speech, McCain, in today's Gallup poll, now leads him by 3, McCain's first lead in months. Palin hit a home run with the masses. It's hard to see how Obama sews his balls back on now. And I'm FOR Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 09/07/2008
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The fact that Palin "hit a home run with the masses" is enough to make me want to flee this country of neanderthals and neocons. I knew there was plenty of ignorance in America, but this shocks even my cynical mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 09/07/2008
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McCain's bounce was to be expected and I am sure she added to the increase of it. It was hyped euphoria to say the least. Once people get to know her and her stands on the issues, that is if Rove allows that to happen, the Independents and moderate Republicans are going to run from her. She has very extreme views, she is a known and verified liar, and flip flopper for political expediency.

The problem is that I don't see Rove allowing her views to be shared to the American public. She will probably say that she has "modified" her views to more mainstream just to give them a chance to get back into the White House. If the MSM does it's job here, instead of like they did to the run up of the Iraq War, she will be toast in mainstream America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 09/07/2008

Sex sells to educated and uneducated men.
I have a very smart Republican male friend who is drooling all over himself because of Palin.
Is that Palin you have in your pocket?
Not enough time to sew Obama's balls back on. It is all over for Obama! Sex wins again!
Now don't get me wrong, I like country music. However, if you sing good and are not good looking, forget it. If you sing bad and look pretty, we love you. Show us more T&A please while you sing to US because you are an American Woman.
I have voted for over 38 years, I told my daughter and husband that when this election is over I will burn my voter registration card if Palin wins and NEVER, EVER vote again. I am tired of the sillyness of these so called Presidential elections. May last ten years will be election free.
Positions and Issues are meaningless anymore. It is all about voting for the next American Idol. 85% of Americans are just plain easy to brainwash.
Razzle Dazzle, Weapons-Of-Mass-Distruction. Remember them folks.
Republican For Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 09/07/2008
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Yes and amazingly enough, these are the same people (some are my coworkers and friends) who have not benefited directly from Republican policies, but have voted for Bush twice. Now they complain about the day to day strife they experience. You would think these people intend to vote for a major change in policies in this election right? No, they're talking about voting for Mc Cain and Pa lin! It makes no sense to me! How do you vote against your own interests or the interests of the many? The reasons they have offered for thier positions? Mc Cain was in the military and Pa lin is a woman and can therefore multi-task!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 09/07/2008

I used to support Obama. Not anymore. I am an ex-Dem for McCain/Palin 2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 09/07/2008

The sad thing is that they don't THINK people are stupid
The KNOW it.

They've done the research; and yes with the correct propaganda you can trick people into praising someone running for VP because they aren't willing to do national press interviews.
I swear to God I heard a woman on talk radio say that Palin was brave for NOT submitting herself to "the media"

The question is how many?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 09/07/2008
- edpell I'm a Fan of edpell 3 fans permalink

How will either one of them balance the budget and end the trade deficit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 09/07/2008

Great question.

I honestly do not know how either McCain or Obama can do that.

I just think it's a really bad idea to raise taxes during a recesion. I took an economics class in college and we learned that in like the first week. Read Milton Freidman's Freedom To Choose.

Also government spending is out of control and Obama wants to increase the size and scope of government. Can we please stop this beast from getting any larger? Can anyone name a big governmet program that is efficient and works well? And Obama was to place government in charge of our healthcare system. NO THANKS!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 09/07/2008
- iLogos I'm a Fan of iLogos 6 fans permalink

Actually your bias is preventing from seeing the problem. In a recession you want to cut the biggest area you are hemorrhaging money from... that would be the Iraq war. Once we stop sending Billions of dollars to Iraq we can stop borrowing billions of dollars from China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, and the Arab Emirates. This will cause a correction in our economy. Then you give a tax cut to the bottom 95% of the citizenry a significant portion of which will float right up to the large corporations as it is spent on gas, utilities, paying off debt. The rest will be spent locally on groceries, entertainment, and goods or invested in education IRA/401K etc.

You then have to shore up the economy in other ways, like raising taxes on the top 5% and end tax cuts to corporations who ship jobs or relocate over seas.

All of this is how you get out of a recession. Any honest economist will tell you as much, and even if you aren't an economist yourself all it takes is looking at the presidents we have had whose policies pulled us out of our recessions in the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 09/07/2008
- calichic I'm a Fan of calichic 17 fans permalink

The majority of government spending is on the military, which no doubt would increase exponentially under a MC administration. As for your reference to Obama raising taxes---that is repub lie. He plans to lower taxes for all those making under 250,000 a year or 95% of Americans (frankly I don't believe a tax cut in a time of recession and an out of control deficit is wise). Finally, Freidman is an ideologue who conforms everything to fit his worship of supply side economics. For balance, why don't you read the famous demand side economic theorist Maynard Keynes and then draw your own conclusions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 09/07/2008

No but Hill & Bill already did it once & it's be alot easier for them now. You need them back bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 09/07/2008

I'm thinkin maybe someone needs to do somehing about the "Tax Gap Problem". We are owed close to a trillion $ since Bush took office from individuals, corporations and off-shore companies not paying what they owe in federal taxes. Check it out on the net under Tax Gap. They HOPE to collect 1% maybe. This is real. Collect the taxes owed to US. They could use part of it to pay back the 162 Billion that Bush has borrowed from the Social Security Trust Fund since he took office. Not one candidate has mentioned this. It's owed to US!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 09/07/2008
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