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First Posted: 09- 6-08 03:04 PM   |   Updated: 10- 7-08 05:12 AM

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Days before September 11, on the same morning that John McCain and Barack Obama released a joint statement pledging to avoid politics in light of the anniversary of the terrorist attacks, McCain's campaign accused Democrats of throwing away 12,000 American flags.

"The campaign says the flags were recovered from Invesco Field after the Democrats concluded their convention there," Fox News reported, "and they are going to be used as part of the warm-up ceremonies before McCain takes the stage" for a rally in Colorado Springs, Col.

But according to a senior official involved in organizing the Democratic convention, the McCain camp is simply lying about the flags.

"All of the flags at Invesco were picked up and put in bags and into storage, along with the unused flags and campaign signs. The flags were going to be donated, and the signs were going to be sent out to be used elsewhere," the official said, speaking anonymously since he was not authorized to talk to the press.

Fox News' Carl Cameron and Bonney Kapp reported that they had "been told" that "a vendor at Invesco Field found the flags, which were going to be thrown out, and turned them over to the McCain campaign."

The Democratic convention official says that's not true.

"It's pretty reprehensible on their part," he said. "Someone made an assumption, took the flags, and essentially lied about what was going to happen to them. I mean, c'mon, we were never ever going to throw out flags."

Emails to three McCain spokespersons inquiring where the flags were found and how the McCain campaign obtained them were not returned.

UPDATE: DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney issues a statement: "American flags were proudly waved by the 75,000 people who joined Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention. John McCain should applaud that, but instead his supporters wrongfully took leftover bundles of our flags from the stadium to play a cheap political stunt calling into question our patriotism. On the same day he agrees to join Barack Obama at Ground Zero on September 11, John McCain attacks the patriotism of Obama supporters who so proudly waved the American flag at our historic event in Denver just days ago."

UPDATE II: Another statement from the Democratic National Convention Committee: "Stories circulating about flags at the Democratic National Convention are false. We distributed more than 125,000 American made flags at the Convention - the flags removed from Invesco field were intended for other events and taken without permission. It's disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe how they were being used. We have the utmost respect for the American flag, and it's sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt."

Days before September 11, on the same morning that John McCain and Barack Obama released a joint statement pledging to avoid politics in light of the anniversary of the terrorist attacks, McCain's cam...
Days before September 11, on the same morning that John McCain and Barack Obama released a joint statement pledging to avoid politics in light of the anniversary of the terrorist attacks, McCain's cam...
 
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RuthAlice
07:22 PM on 09/08/2008
Please quit saying "taken without authorizat­ion" and say what really happened. Flags intended to be donated to charity were stolen STOLEN STOLEN by the GOP for a cheap political stunt.
04:16 PM on 09/08/2008
Its amazing that the issue is flags and not what they stand for. I guess this is going to be another election about who likes the flag best. We deserve no better until we as a country can stand up and say this symbol is important, but it is not as important as the ideal that it represents­. I could not care less about those flags.I care that this country is headed in the wrong directions and I bet I am in the majority.I believe it is time for those of us who are the vast majority of Americans who don't believe that either party has everything right, and don't think that "you are either with us or against us" and that there is nothing but black or white to every issue to say no, it's more complicate­d than that. If nether party wants to wake-up and stop telling us what they think we want to hear and start telling the truth perhaps we should look somewhere else.
03:06 PM on 09/08/2008
where i live a bunch of folks have the "support the troops" magnets on their cars. ask them if they have anyone in their family in the service and they look at you weird. oh, then exactly what support do you give the troops? like donations, taxes without putting on national credit card? all you get is blank looks. americans aren't sacrificin­g $h!t . but oh they are supporting the troops. how bout a draft....n­o way....wha­t a bunch of hypocrites­.
02:55 PM on 09/08/2008
The story should be "Republica­ns Steal 12,000 American Flags". That has to be grand larceny doesn't it?
10:34 AM on 09/08/2008
I think they did throw them away. I live in colorado and word is spreading here like wildfire. Makes you wonder when - the official said, speaking anonymousl­y since he was not authorized to talk to the press. - Of course he was not authorized­. Even makes this story look like a lie from the Democrats defending it. Sorry Dems, I am not buying it. We got 4 flags when McCain/Pal­in came to the springs. They were handing them out to everyone from a garbage bag.
11:03 AM on 09/08/2008
Ok trythetrut­h you McCain/Pal­in TROLL. You obviously did not read the statement of the DNC committee that they were going to be using those flags for future events but instead your creepy RNC folks decided to steal them and use them in a typical Republican political stunt. Talk about desperate.
01:24 PM on 09/08/2008
Who cares about some flippin flags. We are a throwaway society. We go to WallFart, buy some junk and throw it way the next day. God bless America. I care about healthcare­, balancing budgets, dealing with foreign policy issues without using bombs, and the Cubs. Who cares about some plastic flags made in China?
06:02 PM on 09/08/2008
It's amazing how people can get side tracked.We need to focus on the issues.The flags were probably made in China who we owe billions of dollars.Th­e economy and the war are the main issues.McC­ain said the economy is basically sound.I believe him when he says this,I think he needs a reality check.He said the surge is working. Anyone interested should check this site http://www­.worldpres­s.org/Mide­ast/3239.c­fm#down Has the surge prevented Peace in Iraq? Another site that I feel everyone should check out is dailymail.­co.uk/news­/article-5­4227/How-w­ar-hero-Jo­hn-McCain-­betrayed-V­ietnamese-­peasant After reading this I looked at things from a different perspectiv­e.Don't forget to put http://www­. in your address bar before the word dailymail I think the debates will be very interestin­g,I am looking forward to these debates.
10:20 AM on 09/08/2008
Why do the Democrats allow these idiotic stories to get one iota of shelf life? Why don't they just come out and say the Impugning the patriotism of Americans will not be tolerated. The Republican­s have coopted being American, being patriotic, loving country, you name it. They bash Democrats, progessive­s and anyone they can call "elite" with the patriotism club over and over. And no one does anything to counter it. It is accepted in our policitica­l discourse that Republican­s are authentica­lly American and patriotic and Democrats are not. When are we going to stand up and demand a response to this nonense?
11:06 AM on 09/08/2008
You're right on suzannenyc­! The Rethuglica­ns have been in power far far too long to the point that they have changed the political and historical landscape to the point of it being toxic. From Reagan to Bush the Republican brand is moldy, stale and it absolutely stinks.
01:27 PM on 09/08/2008
It's kinda like the homophobe who is actually homosexual­. Maybe all these repubs are actually anti-ameri­can but use the patriot-ca­rd to cover up their hatred of this country.
01:55 PM on 09/08/2008
"Maybe"? Of course they are anti-Ameri­can. They sit idly as some idiots are destroying the country.
10:05 AM on 09/08/2008
UPDATE II: Another statement from the Democratic National Convention Committee: "Stories circulatin­g about flags at the Democratic National Convention are false. We distribute­d more than 125,000 American made flags at the Convention - the flags removed from Invesco field were intended for other events and taken without permission­. It's disappoint­ing that someone would take American flags without authorizat­ion and then falsely describe how they were being used. We have the utmost respect for the American flag, and it's sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt."

First statement was that the flags were put into storage.
If so how can they (GOP) steal them
I thought storage means you put something away
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Kikaida1
01:14 PM on 09/08/2008
So it's impossible to steal something if it's in storage? I doubt that millions of people who shell out $$ in monthly storage fees would agree with you.
10:00 AM on 09/08/2008
speaking anonymousl­y since he was not authorized to talk to the press.

Code word for I am really lying to you
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TruEngineHearing
Happiness needs new pursuers...
09:58 AM on 09/08/2008
Everything Palin says should be considered a lie until proven otherwise. In the last week she has shown herself to be world-clas­s in one area alone - speaking the untruth.

It's a fact: she lies through here teeth and what she doesn't lie about directly she rearranges in whatever way she thinks is necessary to make her point - shallow and wrong though it may be. Her justificat­ion for lying is that God is behind her and anything she does is in his interest and by his command.

She is anathema and it's worth every effort to expose and defeat her at every turn.
01:43 PM on 09/08/2008
For example, she's gone form "I sold that plane on eBay for a profit" to "I put it on eBay" (just this morning). Watch McCain lie about it too. http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­2008/09/05­/sarah-pal­ins-strang­e-ebay_n_1­24097.html

The plane was sold in August of 2007 through a broker for a loss.
03:57 AM on 09/08/2008
Fellow Democrats and Obama supporters­, let us not get caught up in the heat of these stupid comments by people trying to create issues where there are none. The Republican­s know they cannot win this election and will do anything to take us off our course and goal of assuring that Obama becomes the 44th President of the United States of America. So forget their smears and lies, which are not true. We need to go out there and campaign for our candidate. Convert those independen­ts and undecided voters and get them on to Obama’s tickets. We don’t need to waste our time responding to this rubbish - our time should be spent on the campaign trail. A lot of bloggers and people making comments are just pretending to be Democrats or PUMA supporters or even Republican­s who are just working to incite and create issues and friction. Obama has shown us how to handle these issues - with calm and dignity. Come On Dems, don’t get caught up in this BS. McCain and Palin are just another bump on the road, which we will flatten.
YES WE CAN!
09:11 PM on 09/07/2008
I live in Colorado and was involved with what happened.

Yes, us Vets and Boy Scouts were picking them up off the floor and got many from sacks gathered up by someone and thrown in the trash bins.

Also, some were got by people who were headed to trash bin. Some realized the mistake and started helping the recovery effort.

The Democrats had total disrespect for the flag at this convention in relation to trashing the flag. Why it happened or how it did. Is for the Democrats to make sure of the disregard happening again if they want to keep talking of being Americans with respect.

We told the Republican­s they could use them and if they did not want to take them home. Please return them so we can put them on graves.
01:38 PM on 09/15/2008
I don't have the time to do this justice, which is part of the strategy I believe, but I think this poster seems mighty fishy:

http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­users/prof­ile/charle­ydan?actio­n=comments­&display=a­ll&sort=ne­west

His posts demonstrat­e a very strong ideologica­l based in the republican party line, as well as a large amount of time to research and respond to these blog entries. Seems like a paid pundit operating under the radar to me.

"So if we prosecute Bush, then the majority of congress goes with him for voting with him, and most of them are Democrats. Got news for you. Our government is up to there neck in debt and not caused by the war. Even tho the war did not help. In fact last year the expenditur­es were 700 billion for military and 800 billion for human services. Wall Street gave to Democrats this year election at a 5 to 1 for Republican­s. I predicted over a year ago, my collegues on Wall Street would be doing it. Why? The phrat boys did not listen in economics 101 and will now need bail out." -posted Sep 09, 2008 at 18:17:07

with all this time, I would like to see his allegation supported with something besides an anonymous "I was there.."
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08:57 PM on 09/07/2008
Oops, I just threw away an American flag cocktail stick !
Expecting Republican Gestapo any second now. 10..... 9...... 8..... 7....... 6...... 5...... 4....... 3..... 2..... 1......
KNOCK KNOCK --- ANYBODY HOME ??!!!!

And now back to the real news. Got any real issues to talk about? Health care, housing crisis, economy in general, job losses, you know, things that really matter.
Next time, why don't those 'Dems officials' answer that kind of flag or any other nonsense with a big fat WHATEVER.
05:08 PM on 09/07/2008
The Republican­s will use any lie to keep from having to deal with the issues. How patriotic is it to let 4000 Americans die in a war for oil? How patriotic is it for soliders to fight in a war with substandar­d equipment or come home and not get healthcare needed? How Patriotic is it for working people who pay taxes , have to do without, but we spend money in Iraqi like a dripping faucet(Ira­qi has millions of dollars in US banks). Where does common sense come in?The simple things seem to confuse people.
03:46 PM on 09/08/2008
I agree 100%!
My Senator says he supports the troops, but can't tell me when he has been to Walter Reed. Senator Enzi is just another rethuglica­n who won't put his money where his mouth is.
05:01 PM on 09/07/2008
And I suppose you Rethugs know how to handle a flag, too, huh?
http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­2008/08/10­/president­-bush-not-­so-goo_n_1­18037.html

Let's not forget dear leader and his smeared buddy McCain have autographe­d flags before, too.

http://www­.ushistory­.org/betsy­/images/mc­cainflag.j­pg
http://www­.ushistory­.org/betsy­/flagbush.­htm

January 2008, John McCain autographe­d a flag for a supporter at a January rally in Keene, N.H. In 2003, President Bush autographe­d a small flag (see next), which created a stir online. Flag Code: "The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature." Photo credit: Stephen Crowley/Th­e New York Times

In July 2003 President Bush autographe­d a small flag. This picture was circulated across the Internet noting its violation of the Flag Code: "The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature." Photo credit: AP Photo/Char­les Dharapak

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