'Thrown Away Flags' Story False, Dem Convention Official Says

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First Posted: 09- 6-08 03:04 PM   |   Updated: 10- 7-08 05:12 AM

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Days before September 11, on the same morning that John McCain and Barack Obama released a joint statement pledging to avoid politics in light of the anniversary of the terrorist attacks, McCain's campaign accused Democrats of throwing away 12,000 American flags.

"The campaign says the flags were recovered from Invesco Field after the Democrats concluded their convention there," Fox News reported, "and they are going to be used as part of the warm-up ceremonies before McCain takes the stage" for a rally in Colorado Springs, Col.

But according to a senior official involved in organizing the Democratic convention, the McCain camp is simply lying about the flags.

"All of the flags at Invesco were picked up and put in bags and into storage, along with the unused flags and campaign signs. The flags were going to be donated, and the signs were going to be sent out to be used elsewhere," the official said, speaking anonymously since he was not authorized to talk to the press.

Fox News' Carl Cameron and Bonney Kapp reported that they had "been told" that "a vendor at Invesco Field found the flags, which were going to be thrown out, and turned them over to the McCain campaign."

The Democratic convention official says that's not true.

"It's pretty reprehensible on their part," he said. "Someone made an assumption, took the flags, and essentially lied about what was going to happen to them. I mean, c'mon, we were never ever going to throw out flags."

Emails to three McCain spokespersons inquiring where the flags were found and how the McCain campaign obtained them were not returned.

UPDATE: DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney issues a statement: "American flags were proudly waved by the 75,000 people who joined Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention. John McCain should applaud that, but instead his supporters wrongfully took leftover bundles of our flags from the stadium to play a cheap political stunt calling into question our patriotism. On the same day he agrees to join Barack Obama at Ground Zero on September 11, John McCain attacks the patriotism of Obama supporters who so proudly waved the American flag at our historic event in Denver just days ago."

UPDATE II: Another statement from the Democratic National Convention Committee: "Stories circulating about flags at the Democratic National Convention are false. We distributed more than 125,000 American made flags at the Convention - the flags removed from Invesco field were intended for other events and taken without permission. It's disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe how they were being used. We have the utmost respect for the American flag, and it's sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt."

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I guess this answers Obama's question about whether or not Mccain / Palin thinks we're stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 09/07/2008
- judesuper I'm a Fan of judesuper 29 fans permalink
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This is what you've become John? A liar? Come on, lets debate facts and issues. NOT this made up crap. I can't wait until you loose this election. Then when you attempt to run for another term as senator from Arizona, we'll all be voting for Janet Napalitano. Good bye, old man. Enjoy your many, many houses and your retirement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 09/07/2008
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LIE

DISTORT

DON'T TALK ABOUT ISSUES

PRETEND THAT MORE OF THE SAME IS CHANGE

REPEAT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 09/07/2008
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TimmySlagle

Nowhere in the page you linked is Invesco mentioned.

The reason why the photos appeared before Obama's speech, is because they were taken before the speech.

After Biden's speech at the Pepsi center.

Posted 02:10 PM on 09/07/2008

uhhh, timmy, here is the first sentence of the article i linked to:

This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage.

so.......t­immy, how many more lies are you going to tell today?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 09/07/2008
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Hmmm,
a bunch of flags in garbage bags...not how I was told to dispose of our flag. Dems wouldn't know how to treat a flag if it hung from their lapel...an­d they rarely do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 09/07/2008
- zelduh I'm a Fan of zelduh 4 fans permalink
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Mr. bb922335:

What you do not know was that they were supplied to our sections at the convention in black garbage type bags - because that was the best way to hand them out. The 125,000 flags arrived in HUGE crates - and they were separated into garbage bags of fifty-75 flags per bag, so that they could be delivered to the conventioneers by section. (Boxes would have been a logistical nightmare in those crowds.) Remember that there were 84,000 people at INVESCO. We all got flags.

I was there as a delegate. I waived my flags - and I took mine home as mementos. In fact, I had an argument with the airline about not carrying my flags in a suitcase. (The stick was too long and did not fit in my bag.) Most conventioneers realized that they would have problems taking their flags home on the airlines. They had to leave them.

Can I ask you how YOU would have handled the flags?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 09/07/2008

Can I buy some of the "'patriotism" you all seem to think you own?

The rethugs using the American flag as a stump prop for some cheap votes and an even cheaper dig at the "evil lubruls"? Classy.

When you question someone's patriotism, it is the questioner not the question, that is held in disregard. Contrary to your fascist beliefs, we are all Americans. The difference is, those of of not of the Mavrick(tm) camp, actually knows what that means.

Why do Republicans Hate America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 09/07/2008
- bujeeboo I'm a Fan of bujeeboo 6 fans permalink

Can't you READ??? Or do you have that homeschooled education to thank for your ignorance?

Your candidate didn't wear a flag lapel pin during his speech. Oh you didn't notice that, did you.

Putz.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 09/07/2008
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i think someone is putting their foot in their mouth right about now. well done, buj!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 09/07/2008

Are you aware that the OFFICIAL way to dispose of an old flag is to BURN IT?
For real. Look it up.

How should you dispose of thousands of cheap tiny little flags? WHO CARES?

THIS is the kind of stupid irrelevant stuff Republicans obsess about... when they're not obsessing about gay sex and other people's abortions.

Economy? jobs? Why think about that when someone somewhere isn't wearing a flag pin (that was made in China)?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 09/07/2008
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So how do you dispose of a flag/ Once it touches the earth it is to be BURNED and the ashes buried. And the flag is not supposed to worn as a piece of jewery. Lapel pins are just babbles made in China. You can not honor the flag while dishonoring what it stands for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 09/07/2008
- Tobiasism I'm a Fan of Tobiasism 7 fans permalink

So the Grand Oil Party got a deal on stolen flags?
Isn't that the headline?

GOP STEALS FLAGS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 09/07/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 228 fans permalink
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GOP HAS NO MESSAGE. RESORTS TO FAKING STORIES TO "ENERGIZE" BASE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 09/07/2008

Report the theft! (Dollar value? Felony level perhaps!) Stop being so "polite". Theft is theft, lies are lies, and Republicans have become major practitioners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 09/07/2008
- surferbuoy I'm a Fan of surferbuoy 10 fans permalink

Yes, Lets get those Cub Scouts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 09/07/2008
- demfriend I'm a Fan of demfriend 23 fans permalink
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It is amazing to think that someone cn lie and lie and print pictures to go with the lies when the pictures were taken at another time. It also is strange to think that despperate people would steal from the other campaign and lie about how they got the stuff including flags. I always thought that when you take stuff that belongs to someone else it's stealing. So guess what folks lie cheating and stealing is approved by the GOP are we shocked? Your really shocked by this? I watched Sunday shows which has taken on new life with the lies the GOP told and continue to about wonderful Palin. Too many things not too wonderful and when people are happy because someone can read a speech they didn't write and call it black when it's white scares me. Are the republicans so desperate that they can put someone out to keep the news cycle away from Obama and call it Palin? The polls lie too so do not believe them either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 09/07/2008
- surferbuoy I'm a Fan of surferbuoy 10 fans permalink

Warning, danger Will Robinson, Danger...e­verthing is a lie unless it is said by a liberal Obomabot. Don't believe what uyou read, see, or hear unless it is on this site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 09/07/2008

Give McCain a break. He's not doing too well in campaign cash, so he needs to cut costs wherever he can, and with these free flags, he can kill two birds with one stone!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 09/07/2008
- KIMBER I'm a Fan of KIMBER 17 fans permalink
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It is painfully obvious that the Republicans have absolutely nothing to offer. They will employ any idiotic tactic that comes their way to divert attention from real issues and the fact that McCain has chosen a trained talking head who doesn't even know what the job of VP entails to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency of a 72 year old man in questionable health.
It's inconceivable to me that there are people in this country who get derailed by this adolescent stuff and cannot see that anyone who wants to talk about these trumped up non-issues is someone with no real plan whatsoever for our country.
Which candidate is trying desperately on a daily basis to talk to the American people about their economy, their jobs, their health care, their taxes and the war, and which candidate is out there trying to throw dirt to avoid those same issues? It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. It's truly embarrassing and pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 09/07/2008
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it doesn't. unfortunately joe america who listens to fixednews is far from genius, and will believe this crap. that is why it is cnn and huffpo, and every other media outlet to start calling them on their bs!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 09/07/2008
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These Rethugs are fixated with making "libruls" out to be America hating, flag burning, foreigners. They will NEVER stop, no matter how much they see us wrapped and draped in patriotism. THIS is how they keep their base "fired up", they've got NOTHING else. Anytime these nuts throw out a story involving flags or patriotism against Democrats, DO NOT BELIEVE IT! PERIOD!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 09/07/2008
- mesut I'm a Fan of mesut 4 fans permalink

I was thinking last night CNN wanted to report and report on a non-flag issue but they get McCain to allow Gov Palin to even speak to the press or an interview. He chose her and she's making all this flap then let her be interviewed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 09/07/2008
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the proof the denver post updated their original article with was pics from redstate -- pics that were taken the morning before obama's speech!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 09/07/2008
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from the denver post:

This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage.

also from same article:

I just spoke with the person at Invesco who found the flags.....­.."The flags were there for a week and a day and no one came looking for them."

an update to said article:

RedState has some photos of discarded flags

redstate link:

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/28/mystery-solved/
(pics posted 8/28/2008 - the morning before obama spoke at invesco field)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 09/07/2008

they were actually headed out to walter reade middle school

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 09/07/2008
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Thank for the link. Very illuminating.

Please note the fabric seats, and carpeted floor. This was an indoor stadium; The Pepsi Center.

Very helpful to point out that Invesco wasn't the only place where flags were being "stored."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 09/07/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

LSOS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 09/07/2008
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very hopeful to point out that you are lying, and everyone can see through it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 09/07/2008

The funny thing is that RedState had a picture of this up BEFORE the alledged incident ... liars.

You will not make this election about "small things" through lies ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 09/07/2008
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me? what are you talking about? these links debunk this story. you may want to check someone's profile, and/or understand what they are posting b4 you make such remarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 09/07/2008
- JHancock I'm a Fan of JHancock 15 fans permalink
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So the Republicans stole the flags. Just like they have stolen people's music, other people's photos and of course the last two elections. Can someone have these thieves arrested please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 09/07/2008

To therblig: Palin doesn't need that little jet. She's been supplied a bigger and better one by the RNC and it's lobbyists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 09/07/2008

Beating the patriotism drum to death...it­'s all they have. Flags, flagpins..­..it's very desperate. Maybe they are selling them on e-bay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 09/07/2008
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