HuffPollstrology: Candidates' Horoscopes, Polls And More For September 7

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The Huffington Post   |   September 7, 2008 12:01 AM



Polls have come to dominate the media's horse race coverage of political campaigns. Pundits and reporters constantly use them to tell us who's hot and who's not -- but skip over the fact that plummeting response rates and variables like undecided voters and margins of error often render these polls useless as anything other than lightweight diversions on par with horoscopes and political betting lines. Below you'll find a slew of polling, astrological, and betting information that will hopefully help the polling junkies in the media keep polls in the proper perspective.

We've also updated HuffPollstrology to bring you regular takes from astrologers on the state of the presidential race. And we've included a section that digs deeper into how polls are conducted. And to make sure we're really investigating, we're going to add various blogs and articles that cast a skeptical eye on polling. Read on for lots of HuffPollstrology:




ASTROLOGER PHILIP SEDGWICK LOOKS AT THE CANDIDATES - **NEW POST 9/4**:

Hurricane Preparation

John, stop being so predictable. That's so un-maverick-like. Last week as planets contacted "soul mate" (and also inexplicable charisma) connections in space and engaged your communication planet you declared frenzy-stimulating Sarah a/your soul mate. I suspect the outbound bare-chested Putin might also see Palin as a soul mate. Maybe she can deal with the Russians. With your patterns, Senator, there's Neptunian delusion rising like the tide. Remember, we all have to keep our Berings Strait.

Here's more disappointing predictability. As the convention launched, the warrior Mars, rising in impact, taunted viewers with disturbing militaristic themes veiled in patriotism, sporting the theme "Country First, People Last." Given the planetary stimulus package to your chart's communication marker, you declare questions regarding Sarah Palin's background and character off limits.* Sure. Your communication planet lands in the portion of the chart that astrologers see as a hidden zone. Your request succeeded in making vetting a verb and a noun and the number one priority of every investigative reporter.

Astrologers usually know when things are going to happen. We don't always know precisely what, especially when the issues are as numerous and all over the map as this year's Atlantic storms. The planets predicted the recent rise of Obama and now suggest you deserve some convention bump and within the Palin rage especially after her speech, respectable gain.

I agree with Obama. We should stay out of the Palin family's life - unless of course it provides a revelation as to Palin's judgment skills. In return, we ask that all Republicans and conservatives stay away from our families and our family's rights. Both McCain and Palin have strong Jupiter placements. Jupiter is belief, religious conviction and when improperly applied, a sense of moral and spiritual superiority. Similarly, Jupiter exposes potential hypocrisy. What if y'all reconcile once and for the contradiction between pro-life and capital punishment and war and God's doctrine of thou shall not kill. Here's a "read and initial" document for all who favor war and capital punishment just in time for 9/11.

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This Jupiter thing in McCain's chart is disturbing. It could be reckless. It could be lucky. It could be well-thought. It could be blinded by arrogance. While in the Navy, three planes he flew crashed. True, the planes made back in the olden days were crap; probably mechanical stuff. At Annapolis, he did not perform as the brightest academic bulb in the string. He competed for the all time demerit record. His rival in the Army would have George Armstrong Custer, one of the top West Point demerit record holders. Custer led many successful, but reckless charges in the Civil War and well...

What disappoints me most this week and no doubt part of the McCain poll flattening of the past days, I was expecting a speech from the hurricane zone, with McCain declaring he would not err as did his predecessor, confirming his Jupiter-Saturn-Neptune combo that states, "The hell with Article II in the Constitution, I'm your President now. Look how I scared those Russians! I can scare off hurricanes too."

Here's a debate question for your judgment/belief system planet: "Senator McCain, being from Arizona, do you believe that God created the Grand Canyon in one lazy afternoon?" If he answers no, he is not a creationist. If he answers yes, he confirms that like Bush he is willing to overlook history and rock solid scientific fact. His dance through that answer would be stiffer than a candidate without a leg to stand on during an American Idol audition.

If you want to embellish your convention bump, why not give your acceptance speech remotely from a hurricane zone? Don't do Ike. He's too far away and too much of the Ike Turner not so kind to your wife vibe. Then there's that warning from the other Ike that we should be wary of the military-industrial complex. How about Hanna from say... Fort Sumter? Charleston should be affected by Hanna and that's where the Civil War started. Y'all love Lincoln.

From Charleston if you look out to sea and peer into the mists of Neptune, you'll see the formation of Hurricane Sarah.

* Unrelated I'm sure, but I remember a video clip one of the hostages freed on the leading cusp of the Iran-Contra scandal appealing to the press to dig no deeper.


POLLING METHODOLOGY: New Polls Added 9/2

HuffPost is delving into the gray area of how polls are conducted. Below is an analysis of how pollsters come up with the numbers through response rates. The definition of a response rate is taken from Arianna's 1998 column "Investigating The Pollsters."

The key to polling's accuracy is the principle of "equal probability of selection." But if larger and larger numbers among those randomly selected refuse to participate, this principle no longer applies.

We asked polling companies to please give us the response and refusal rates for their polls listed below.

Zogby Internet Poll, Conducted August 29-August 30

Results: Obama 43%, McCain 40% Method: 2,020 likely voters polled over two days. "Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A Zogby representative said, "11% of the people who were sent an invitation completed the survey."

Gallup Daily Poll Conducted August 30-September 1

Results: Obama 50%, McCain 42% Method: 2,772 registered voters polled over three days. "Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": 14% response rate, 26% refusal rate. This is an average rate for this particular series of polls, technically defined as the CASRO rate which is similar to the AAPOR-III response rate (these definitions can be found here).

Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll Conducted August 30-September 1

Results: Obama 48%, McCain 43% Method: Sample of 3,000 likely voters over three days. "Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A representative for Rasmussen told us, "We don't give out that information".



  Polls Stars Betting
Mccain vs obama in the General election
McCain
mccain
45%
Rasmussen Daily
scorpioVIRGO
August 29, 1936

A whirlwind of activity - mental as much as physical, could be both exciting (because you're ready for change) and exhausting (because you're working faster than others). News concerning an educational matter - or even a project that would take you away from home-base, could leave you feeling as though you're racing against time.

42.3%
chance of
winning
Obama
obama
46%
Rasmussen Daily
scorpioLEO
August 4, 1961

You could throw a spanner into someone's works: or have a side-winder thrown at you. Either way, you could find yourself at the centre of chaos and at some point find it necessary to use crisis management. Libra and Sagittarius friends could help you rebalance your boat - especially if part of the problem has been someone's over-active imagination.

57.4%
chance of
winning
weather report
East Chance of Rain Brooklyn, NY
Morning clouds will give way to sunshine for the afternoon. High 83F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph.
south Chance of Rain

Miami, FL
Sunshine and clouds mixed. High near 90F. Winds NE at 10 to 20 mph.

midwest Chance of Rain Lincoln, NE
Areas of patchy fog early. Partly cloudy. High 72F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph.
west Chance of Rain

Seattle, WA
Mainly sunny. High around 75F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph.


Sources:

General Election Poll: Rasmussen Daily Tracking

Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large. Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. Our baseline targets are established based upon survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews). For the month of August, the targets are 40.6% Democrat, 31.6% Republican, and 27.8% unaffiliated. For July, the targets were 41.4% Democrat, 31.5% Republican, and 27.1% unaffiliated (see party trends and analysis).

Horoscopes: horoscopes.co.uk

Weather: Weather.com

Betting Lines: Intrade Prediction Markets

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In 1976, a group of scientists and Nobel Prize winners, signed an "objection to astrology."
Shortly there after followed an ugly cover-up on the part of skeptical scientists of studies that revealed astrology's statistical merit. Read all about it here: http://cura.free.fr/xv/14starbb.html
Since that time no astrologer sees any point in communicating with a scientific community that persists in applying a flat world view to the scientific method.
Of course, any attempt on my part to convert skeptics would be as effective as Galileo prompting church clergy to look through his telescope. John McCain continues to assert the surge is working as Mike Huckabee can throw bogus voting numbers into a speech and make it fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 09/07/2008

Astrology is a pseudoscience. There's no bull or ram or scales in the sky. There's no lion or virgin or fish. These are things of imagination only.

As to the 'statistical' accuracy of astrology, I'm sorry, but most predictions are so vague they really cant be measured except by wishful thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 09/07/2008
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I challenge anyone who poo poos astrology to study it. I've studied it. That said, nothing is an exact science.. astrology is like a blue print so of akin to being born with a certain DNA, the switching on of a particular gene depends on other factors, environmental etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 09/07/2008
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Astrology is a psuedoscience. It has no basis regarding the natural laws of planetary science or cosmology, which by the way, is WAY more interesting than made up stuff.
HuffPo: Please replace your Astology gig for a Skeptics Feature. Please encourage critical thinking.
Support science... sciencedebate08.com.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 09/07/2008

Having this astrology link on the site undermines Huffpo's credibility. You shouldn't feature articles on such patent pseudoscience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 09/07/2008

Read Richard Tarnas's Cosmos and Psyche and then come back here and tell us that astrology is a "pseudo-science." The configuration of the heavens planets and stars is the work of God: Logos, Architect, First Cause and Prime Mover; a being of incalculable power greater than the cosmos communicating with his creatures through cosmic archtetypes and signs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/07/2008

There is a very insightful astrological analysis of John McCain on Newsvine. If you can stomach learning about what makes the Mav tick, get yerself here ----> http://tiny.cc/MacStars

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 AM on 09/07/2008


Not very insightful. The astrologer has McCain's birthtime at 9AM when it's two hours later. This puts his Mars at his midheaven. These perilous times with neo-imperial Russia on the move helping Iran to build the bomb and plotting to gain control of the world's oil supply calls for the warrior McCain (Mars) and his Amazon running mate and not the Orator Obama who has nothing more to offer than eloquence, charisma and words as Hillary said. The great orator Cicero wasn't a warrior and couldn't lead armies and declined to do so in the last days of the Roman Republic. He knew his limitations and never presumed to be a Pompey. This is Obama's fatal fault and flaw. Unlike Cicero he doesn't live by the ancient maxim "Know Thyself." Obama doesn't have a true measure of his capabilities, he is self-delusional, an impatient man in a hurry to assume a position way beyond his knowledge, experience and moral reach, however well intentioned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 09/07/2008

The astrologer has McCain's birth time two hours too early at 9AM not 11. This marries McCain's Mars to his Leo midheaven trined by Jupiter (good fortune) and squared by Uranus (the revolutionary reds who brutalized him in prison and crushed his enormous self-serving ego a challenge he survived to achieve fame and fortune in politics as a selfless server and patriot of his country). McCain's political success (Jupiter trine Mars/MH) is rooted in war (Mars) and continues today with the perceived success of the surge which amazingly saved his candidacy.

This is Providence at work in raising up McCain to the presidency on a day numerologically and astrologically auspicious for the candidate and his party in manifold ways. "Cometh the hour cometh the man." With neo-imperial Russia allied to Iran plotting to control Central Asia, the Persian Gulf and the world's oil supplies the hour calls for a warrior with a sword-and his Amazon veep-not an orator with words and a lawyer who wants to talk.

Google "ApolloSpeaks townhall" (August 10th) for more insights

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 09/07/2008

The astrologer has McCain's birth time right at 9 am. Mr. Apollo you have it wrong.

Any by the way, are you putting us on with this "warrior with a sword" crap? This guy's just old and lame with his incessent rehashing of his POW stories. Can't imagine you're into such phoney macho b.s.. Do you think the old fellow is going to take us into nucleur war or something? He's not going to be any different than W ---> A blustering incompetent.

With a sword.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 09/08/2008
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