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Russia To Keep 7,600 Troops In 2 Georgia Regions

STEVE GUTTERMAN | September 9, 2008 02:43 PM EST | AP

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Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, center, looks on while attending a joint news conference with his counterparts from the two breakaway Georgian provinces, South Ossetia's Murat Dzhioyev, right, and Abkhazia's Sergei Shamba, left, in Moscow on Tuesday, Sept 9, 2008. Lavrov said Tuesday he and his counterparts in the two regions, which Russia has recognized as independent after last month's war with Georgia, worked out treaties that envisaged close military and other links. The war between Georgia and Russia erupted on Aug. 7 when Georgia launched an attack to regain control over the breakaway provinces of South Ossetia. (AP Photo/ Mikhail Metzel)

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia announced Tuesday it would keep 7,600 troops in Abkhazia and South Ossetia for the foreseeable future, asserting power in the breakaway regions even as it began a pullout from positions deeper in Georgia.

The Kremlin's plans for a heavy military footprint in the enclaves mock Georgia's hopes that a revised peace agreement will lead to a complete Russian withdrawal from the fractured country at the heart of a bitter fray between Moscow and the West.

The deal that emerged from a day of frantic French diplomacy Monday may defuse tension by removing Russian forces from positions they hold in Georgia weeks after last month's war. But it left serious questions unanswered.

After hours of talks with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev promised to withdraw all Russian forces from positions outside Abkhazia and South Ossetia within about a month.

Medvedev's pledge seemed like a startling concession from Moscow, which had adamantly claimed to have met its obligations under the cease-fire brokered by Sarkozy last month. As recently as Sunday, Georgia said Russia was reinforcing its positions around a key port.

But even as it promises to pull back from positions outside South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Russia is strengthening its grip on the separatist regions themselves. That runs counter to Western demands that they remain a part of Georgia and casts a shadow over President Mikhail Saakashvili's hopes of uniting the nation.

On Tuesday, Russian forces pulled out of a position near Abkhazia, officials and residents said. Georgia's Rustavi-2 television showed residents of the Black Sea coastal town of Ganmukhuri rejoicing at the Russian departure.

"We have regained our freedom," said one woman.

Georgian Security Council chief Alexander Lomaia said the Russians had maintained three or four armored personnel carriers and a few dozen troops at the post. He said it was one of 24 Russian checkpoints or positions outside Abkhazia or South Ossetia as of Tuesday morning.

Russia's RIA-Novosti news agency cited an unidentified Defense Ministry official as saying that a full withdrawal had begun Tuesday. However, Defense Ministry spokesmen could not be reached to comment on the report.

At the Russian checkpoint at Karaleti, on the main road leading from Georgian-controlled territory to South Ossetia, there was no sign of a pullout. And Interior Ministry official Shota Utiashvili said later Tuesday that there had been no other withdrawal activity.

In Moscow, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov told Medvedev in a televised meeting Tuesday that about 3,800 troops will be based each in South Ossetia and in Abkhazia _ a far larger presence than before the war.

Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov suggested they would stay indefinitely, saying they were needed to prevent Georgia from trying to regain control of the regions, which Russia has recognized as independent. Only Nicaragua has joined Russia in recognizing the enclaves as independent.

"They will remain there for a long time," Lavrov told reporters of the troops. "Their presence there will be needed at least for the foreseeable future to prevent any relapses of aggressive actions."

Russia repelled Georgia's Aug. 7 offensive against South Ossetia and sent troops and tanks deep into Georgia. Most Russian troops withdrew late last month but ringed the regions with checkpoints and deployed hundreds of soldiers near the Black Sea port of Poti.

Russia has painted Saakashvili as a dangerously bellicose leader encouraged to use force by the United States, which is vying with Russia for influence in the key transit corridor for Caspian and Central Asian oil and gas.

On Tuesday, Russia's U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin circulated a draft resolution to the Security Council that would order all countries to take measures to prevent the direct or indirect supply, sale or transfer of arms to Georgia. Churkin said Russia knows it can expect strong opposition from some council members, particularly the United States.

A senior U.S. official, Undersecretary of Defense Eric Edelman, told lawmakers at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing Tuesday that the United States is reviewing how to help Georgia rebuild its military.

Georgia blames Russia for the war and is calling for a complete withdrawal of Russian forces, including from Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

"There is no way Georgia will ever give up a piece of its sovereignty, a piece of its territory," Saakashvili said Tuesday.

Apparent differences in interpretation threatened further disputes.

Lavrov suggested that Russia and the European Union may be at odds over the mandate of EU observers to be deployed in areas surrounding Abkhazia and South Ossetia by Oct. 1. The deal obliges Russia to pull out of those regions within 10 days of the deployment.

Sarkozy and Georgian officials said EU monitors would have access to the separatist regions themselves. Lavrov, however, said only observers from the United Nations and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe could be deployed there.

Georgia also vociferously objected to Russia's insistence that Abkhazia and South Ossetia be represented at an international conference beginning Oct. 15 in Geneva.

"This is absolutely unacceptable for Georgia. We are not going to talk to war criminals," Georgia's Reintegration Minister Temur Yakobashvili said. "They are not a side in this conflict. They are puppets of the Russian side."

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Associated Press writers David Nowak, Vladimir Isachenkov and Mike Eckel in Moscow and Misha Dzhindzhikhashvili in Karaleti, Georgia, contributed to this report.

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia announced Tuesday it would keep 7,600 troops in Abkhazia and South Ossetia for the foreseeable future, asserting power in the breakaway regions even as it began a pullo...
TBILISI, Georgia — Russia announced Tuesday it would keep 7,600 troops in Abkhazia and South Ossetia for the foreseeable future, asserting power in the breakaway regions even as it began a pullo...
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
02:49 PM on 09/15/2008
So if we recognized the independence of North Ossetia and Chechnya and Ingushetia and Dagestan and Kalmykia we could place "peacekeepers" on the ground there? Sounds fair to me.
07:13 AM on 09/10/2008
Russia was in ruin after the PEACEFUL dissolution of the USSR. At this time the then US prez promised to then Russian prez that the former USSR states will never be incorporated into NATO. The Warsaw Pact ceased to exist.
Today Russia has on its borders several NATO members that are the former USSR states. Moreover, the US and Israel have been involved for years in arming and training the Georgian army to prepare for local conflicts targeting Russian sphere of influence.
On the eve of Olympics, the US client Saakashvilli (a former NYC lawyer) ordered a night-time bombardment of the civilian population of Tskhinvalli, the capital city of S. Ossetia. Almost 12 hours later, the Russian military entered the badly damaged city and proceeded deep into the Georgian territory. This counterattack was measured; the Russians even did not occupy Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia - though they easily could.
Enters the main inciter of the conflict - the US - and made a series of tragic-comical announcements (Rice and Bush served as mouthpieces) on the sanctity of the international law and that it is impermissible to violate the suzerainty of an independent state. The natural reaction was “what about Iraq?” Then Rice goes to Poland to seal hastily an agreement to install a "defensive" U.S. missile interceptor base in the Russian neighborhood.
The neocon’s dreams to conduct “localized” nuclear conflicts, preferably against Russia, certainly the weapon producers rejoice! … Sigh.
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loki
Better to die fighting, than live on knees
02:30 AM on 09/10/2008
looks like putin is doing a bush and just taking what he wants by force. well, i guess we really cant say much about it without looking like the hypocrites we are , especially after our preemptive excuses for invasion of a country that had nothing to do with attacking us , or would have been able to do more than stick its tongue out at us over the next 20 years or so. and we are one of the biggest hypocritical countries on the face of the earth, at least as long as repugs are in the seats of power.
guajiro
posted 5 minutes ago
12:47 AM on 09/10/2008
Much as the American "surge" has supposedly worked in Iraq, the Russian "surge" appears to be working in Georgia.
11:47 PM on 09/09/2008
Two provinces that fought for their autonomy from Georgia since the dissolution of the USSR, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, have proclaimed their independence. The Western “pro-democracy” political establishment is stunned and offended. The factual aggressor, Saakashvilli, has been whitewashed and paraded on the Western mass-media.
“This is absolutely unacceptable for Georgia. We are not going to talk to war criminals," Georgia's Reintegration Minister Temur Yakobashvili said." Swell! Yakobashvili, an Israeli national fluent in Hebrew, is a "Reintegration Minister" (why Orwell comes to mind?) of the newly independent states of S. Ossetia and Abkhazia. In other words, he has nothing to manage. And he has problems with his vision, because the war criminal, who initiated the aerial bombardment and tank attack of Tskhinvalli, is his boss Saakashvilli.
Another point of US interest is Ukraine, a destination of Cheney’s recent trip. The US is pushing the EU to accept Ukraine (and Georgia) into NATO.
Russians are not interested in the war. They have barely recovered and still have a lot of problems. The real danger comes from the neocon’s plan to conduct a small and victorious nuclear conflict, preferably against Russia. The beautiful Georgia is a pawn in this game
11:44 PM on 09/09/2008
Russia was in ruin after the PEACEFUL dissolution of the USSR. At this time the then US prez promised to then Russian prez that the former USSR states will never be incorporated into NATO. The Warsaw Pact ceased to exist.
Today Russia has on its borders several NATO members that are the former USSR states. Moreover, the US and Israel have been involved for years in arming and training the Georgian army to prepare for local conflicts.
On the eve of Olympics, the US client Saakashvilli, the former NYS lawyer, ordered a night-time bombardment of the civilian population of Tskhinvalli, the capital city of S. Ossetia. Almost 12 hours later, the Russian military entered the badly damaged city and proceeded deep into the Georgian territory. This counterattack was measured; the Russians even did not occupy Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia.
Enters the main inciter of the conflict, the US and, announced tragic-comically (Rice and Bush served as mouthpieces), that it is impermissible to violate the suzerainty of an independent state. Sigh.
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IntelligentDesign
In this respect Sarah
10:15 PM on 09/09/2008
The game of Risk is on!
08:17 PM on 09/09/2008
Where are the Comments here??

Huffpo afraid of Vlad too?
08:11 PM on 09/09/2008
CNN fabricates reports about Georgia and South Ossetia

Russia Today TV channel journalists, who worked in the city of Tskhinvali, accuse CNN of forgery in the coverage of the conflict between Georgia and South Ossetia, RIA Novosti reports.

Everything about the USA and their people and govt is a god damn lie...........that is why America is no longer respected anymore in this world.
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atila
07:03 PM on 09/09/2008
Can you see how dangerous is this?...can you imagine another cowboy pow in the white house trying to handle this?..do you know where they gonna get the soldiers to confront a war against Russia?...yes you are right,A NEW DRAFT....this times require an intelligent President with a different vision about the world,we cannot try to engage any more in this kind of street fight,we need to talk to the world and sit everybody to try to save this planet in peril.
If for some crazy reason mccain get elect this is going to be a huge mess...
04:56 PM on 09/10/2008
THE DRAFT IS COMING PERIOD!

The (DIPN) Democratic Imperial Presidential Nominee, and the (RIPN) Republican Imperial Presidential Nominee, both support the Grand Chessboard Theory of (FSWD) Full Spectrum World Domination, and Preparing the Battlefield, the only change will be shifting the military of the (US/MIC) United States Military Industrial Complex from Iraq to Afghanistan. And, that preparing the battlefield does include a pre-emptive nuclear strike against both Iran and the New Soviet Russia. It is believed both can be removed from the problem column quickly and with no response. But, occupation troops will be necessary to some extent in undamaged oil and mineral rich areas.
07:03 PM on 09/09/2008
Russian soldier's blog explained alot about who was in Georgia.The Russian 58th Army used Chechnyan Irregular's in the Volstok brigade once again as in the 1993 war where the Russian's used there military to overpower Georgia. The armored vehicle's with the crylic writing spray painted on the side is to ID there equipment. The Russian unit's came from Chechnya veterans of the war.Putin was not going to make the mistake he did in Chechnya by sending in poorly trained unit's .The Chechnyan's can easily be identified by there tennis shoe's and other non-military equipment.Alot of your random act's of looting and violence can be associated to these Irregular's.The site also has destroyed Georgian police and Military vehicle's with the dead occupant's identified as Georgian by there red and White cross on the uniform.Also captured equipment US supplied 5ton trucks if you were in the military you would easily ID them as US 1980's era wheeled vehicle's.Also web gear personel and other item's.Most of the Georgian Army that were KIA had kevlar headgear and US BDU woodland scheme Nato 1980 era uniform's.The individual weapon's were AK47 rifles .Must of the pictures of Georgian vehicles looked like they had been hit by an RPG-7 or some other type of AT because the cab was destroyed by the projectile.Many of the picture's looked like ambush site's do to the way the vehicles were destroyed and the close proximity of the vehicle's destruction.
06:51 PM on 09/09/2008
Can the United States cope with a Sitting President with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? WOW! This is really a national security issue that must be addressed by our Law Makers. PTSD is a major concern for our Nation's war-time Vets both young and old. Just look at the definition of PTSD on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTSD.Post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is an anxiety disorder that can develop after exposure to one or more terrifying events that threatened or caused grave physical harm. It is a severe and ongoing emotional reaction to an extreme psychological trauma.
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JoeBlough
The Horror. . .The Horror. . .
06:50 PM on 09/09/2008
Until conditions on the ground improve. Then they can come home.