Palin's ABC Interview: Stumped On Bush Doctrine, Seems To Contradict McCain On Pakistan (VIDEO)

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The Huffington Post   |  Seth Colter Walls and Sam Stein
First Posted: 09-11-08 07:13 PM   |   Updated: 10-12-08 05:12 AM

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In her first major interview as the Republican vice presidential nominee, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin was stumped when asked about the so-called "Bush Doctrine," unable to answer whether she agreed with the six-year-old U.S. policy of military preemption.

Asked by ABC News' Charlie Gibson whether she supported the Bush Doctrine, Palin stared blankly for a moment before turning the question back on Gibson. "In what respect?"

The ABC anchor responded, "Well, what do you interpret it to be?" clearly testing her knowledge of the policy that has been in place since September 2002, before the Iraq war.

Palin couldn't say, offering an answer that didn't even mention preemption. "I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell-bent in destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made, and with new leadership, and that's the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better."

Gibson, who clearly felt he had not received a sufficient answer to the question he had asked, proceeded to define the Bush Doctrine for the governor. According to Bush's National Security Strategy from September 2002: "While the United States will constantly strive to enlist the support of the international community, we will not hesitate to act alone, if necessary, to exercise our right of self defense by acting preemptively against such terrorists, to prevent them from doing harm against our people and our country."

Thus, Gibson pressed Palin. "The Bush Doctrine is we have the right to self-defense, pre-emptive strike against any country we think is going to attack us," he noted. "Do you agree with it?"

Finally, Palin came close to offering an opinion on preemption. "Charlie, if there is enough intelligent and legitimate evidence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country," she said.

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Later in the interview, Palin was asked why exactly being the governor of Alaska made her an expert on Russia -- a claim that the McCain campaign has used to justify her national security bonafides. Her response was to cite geographic proximity, claiming that from some points in her home state, one could actually see the increasingly confrontational nation.

PALIN: We have to keep our eyes on Russia. Under the leadership there.


GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.

There were times during her appearance on ABC that Palin seemingly did not have a full grasp of McCain's own foreign policy positions. For example, when pressed by Gibson whether, in efforts to combat terrorism, the United States should target al Qaeda figures in Pakistan without that country's permission, Palin tried to circumvent the question. The ABC host attempted to pin her down with a yes or no answer, to which Palin seemed to suggest that it would be an American imperative to make such an un-sanctioned attack.

"In order to stop Islamic extremists, those terrorists who would seek to destroy America, and our allies, we must do whatever it takes, and we must not blink, Charlie. In making the tough decisions of where we go, and even who we target. she said.

The response, though hardly definitive, seemed to put her at odds with McCain, who has harshly criticized Obama for saying he would target terrorist leaders that are replenishing their ranks in northwest Pakistan.

In her first major interview as the Republican vice presidential nominee, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin was stumped when asked about the so-called "Bush Doctrine," unable to answer whether she agreed wi...
In her first major interview as the Republican vice presidential nominee, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin was stumped when asked about the so-called "Bush Doctrine," unable to answer whether she agreed wi...
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- joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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Guess you can't say she's a continuation of the Bush policies, if she doesn't know them by heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 09/12/2008

She's Bush with lipstick. Same blank stare, same lack of knowledge about world affairs (although she CAN see Russia from some parts of her state), same ability to shuck-and-jive when pressed on something she has no clue about.

Christ, I hope McCain defies the odds and doesn't keel over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 09/12/2008
- Pronto I'm a Fan of Pronto 32 fans permalink

Rasmussen Tracking on 9/12: McCain +3. "Hope and Change" continues to free fall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 09/12/2008
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I guess most Americans prefer incompetence and lies.

Someone else posted this. It should be Obama's ad.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FPEHLifpi1s

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 09/12/2008
- Pronto I'm a Fan of Pronto 32 fans permalink

I watched your video. It would take too long too comment. But, when B-Man was up in the polls, that was a sign that the country was hungry for "hope and change". Now that he's down in the polls, most Americans prefer "incompetence and lies". It's these types of explanations/excuses that doom The Dems everytime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 09/12/2008

no, just the lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 09/12/2008
- Jonny38103 I'm a Fan of Jonny38103 10 fans permalink

Wow, Gov Palin is so far out of her league that if she received four promotions, she'd still be sitting the bench. What a sad display. Do you believe in the Bush doctrine? Well, if you tell me what it is, I'll answer the question. Is this really the time for on-the-job training?

When did it become a good thing to elect the dumb people? Haven't the last eight years shown us anything?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 09/12/2008

Exactly. Since when did being an "Average Joe" or "Hockey Mom" qualify someone to become president? Personally, I feel a lot better about my country when my president is smarter than I am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 09/12/2008
- utahbro I'm a Fan of utahbro 13 fans permalink
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Republican’s are going to see this interview through their own lenses and put their defensive spin on it however had Charlie Gibson put Joe Biden in that same chair and had Biden uttered the exact same answers we would never hear the end of it from the Republican attack, fear & smear machine. I believe that deep down Republican’s and John McCain must be petrified although they will never admit it. I do want to thank them though for finally allowing her to speak even though she was programmed with canned responses. Anybody with half a brain will now know that neither she nor McCain is even remotely ready to lead our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 09/12/2008
- BarackMan I'm a Fan of BarackMan 7 fans permalink
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She will have that great American Shammity covering for her today.

Obama - Biden '08/12!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 09/12/2008
- thos I'm a Fan of thos 2 fans permalink

And the great American Doh'lberman will be cover for the other ticket today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 09/12/2008
- skyreader7 I'm a Fan of skyreader7 7 fans permalink

Instead of a pit bull she is a toothless mutt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

Can someone please post a link on a US Government website where it says Bush Doctrine and the doctrine is clearly defined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 09/12/2008
- BarackMan I'm a Fan of BarackMan 7 fans permalink
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What rock have you been under for the past seven years? My teenage sons (17, 15) laughed when she did not know the Bush Doctrine......even they knew it.

Obama - Biden '08/12!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 09/12/2008
- tschlak I'm a Fan of tschlak 2 fans permalink

With all due respect to your sons, and based on the answers showing yet more mindless belligerence toward the rest of the world, they might want to stop laughing and start packing their bags for Canada once Pres McPalin starts war with Iran and Russia and has to reinstate the draft.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 09/12/2008

Thank you guys for the link - wow, joe blow not knowing this, but a future (Republican) VP , or possile President doesn't know this - unbelievable!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

That says National Security Strategy, not Bush Doctrine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 09/12/2008
- tschlak I'm a Fan of tschlak 2 fans permalink

http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nssall.html again. (Link is in the article if you had bothered to read it.) You got it now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

That says National Security Strategy, not Bush Doctrine

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 09/12/2008
- naeldwyck I'm a Fan of naeldwyck 20 fans permalink
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most recent version of the wretched document: http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss/2006/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

That says National Security Strategy, not Bush Doctrine

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 09/12/2008
- don I'm a Fan of don 26 fans permalink
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How about words from Bush's own mouth:

"a military that must be ready to strike at a moment's notice in any dark corner of the world. And our security will require all Americans to be forward-looking and resolute, to be ready for preemptive action when necessary to defend our liberty and to defend our lives."

uttered at West Point, June 1, 2002, around the time when the Bush Doctrine was formulated as a justification for invading Iraq the following year and a campaign gimick for the mid term elections that year.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020601-3.html



Interestingly, his remarks concerning the targeting of civilians in the same speech could serve as an indictment of his own policies for the human toll they have exacted in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pay attention, optech007, your understanding of Bush's agenda is not complete. If you truly wanted to know and weren't just attempting to be dismissive and confrontational, a simple search would have refreshed your memory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

That says National Security Strategy, not Bush Doctrine

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 09/12/2008
- CaseyBabes I'm a Fan of CaseyBabes 25 fans permalink
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The interview, and this article, clearly indicate the depths journalism has sunk to. Ms Palin challenged Gibson to clarify his question on the Bush Doctrine in what was clearly that moment of the "gotcha question." The governor was briefed beforehand about such a question coming so she was ready, recognized it, and returned with poise for clarification. Further, any occasional conflict with her statements and McCain's is a matter of semantics anyone can readily recognize. Face it, it is all a war against Islamic terrorists/terrorism so words stepping on each others' lines are gonna happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 09/12/2008
- BarackMan I'm a Fan of BarackMan 7 fans permalink
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What flavor is the kool-aid today? This is a person not ready to lead on any day...let alone day one!

Obama - Biden '08/12!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 09/12/2008

islamic terrorists have nothing to do with Bush Doctrine. Bush Doctrine is premptive strike on a sovereign nation. we are not fighting state-sponsored terrorists... is it really so much to ask that a VP nominee know what the bush doctrine is? its only the most biggest change in foreign policy in recent history. does it really need to be explained to her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

And Gibson said, "By my definition, the Bush Doctrine is ..." So he has his opinion of what the Bush Doctrine is and Sarah Palin has hers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 09/12/2008
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Hers was wrong. It's not as open for interpretation as you'd like to believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 09/12/2008
- naeldwyck I'm a Fan of naeldwyck 20 fans permalink
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whether soldiers will be sent into Pakistan or not is surely not "a matter of semantics"; if it was, why would McCain attack Obama over his earlier comments on the issue?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 09/12/2008

I didn't see Palin challenge Gibson's so called 'gotcha' question, I saw her respond with a deer in the headlights look, followed by regurgitating exactly what she was briefed ten minutes before the interview by her handlers.

While it is perfectly understandable that she might not know specifically what Gibson is referring to when he asks about specific doctrine, he went on to define and contextualize it for her. He asked a legitimate and important question: in essence, should we carry on as we have for the past six years in regards to national defense and international affairs?

She responded with anything but clarity and coherence. Poise she had, as any politician would, so I grant you that, and perhaps she recognized the question as she was briefed, but she was woefully unprepared for the interview, and further, is sadly unprepared for the job of Vice President. "You can actually see Russia from here" and "I was on the Oil Board for Alaska" are not national security credentials.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 09/12/2008
- Housewife I'm a Fan of Housewife 25 fans permalink

I just watched Roger Simon of Politico on MSNBC. He gave Sarah Palin a pass on knowing what the Bush Doctrine is, saying that only a thousand Americans know what it is. They really do think we are idiots. Please write to him and tell him you are smarter than that. Here is a link to his site:
http://www.politico.com/reporters/RogerSimon.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 09/12/2008
- Sam Sedaei - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Sam Sedaei 80 fans permalink

Bush is too dumb and anti-intellectual to be alleged to have a "doctrine." He only has inconsistent /scattered /a.d.d. /dumb ideas that don't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 09/12/2008

What is this so called "alleged doctrine" of Bush, that the Babe from Alaska allegedly knoweth not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 09/12/2008

Gibson defines it in the interview. You should watch it, it's good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 09/12/2008
- Flawless I'm a Fan of Flawless 8 fans permalink
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Exactly

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 09/12/2008
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It's called a Doctrine so his shoot-from-the-hip war-for-profits actions will appear to be part of some actual philosophy.

Other than how can oil companies make the most profit through Peak Oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 09/12/2008

It's just an honorary doctrine.

Shoot first just sounds so... declassee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 09/12/2008
- skyreader7 I'm a Fan of skyreader7 7 fans permalink

Where were McCain's advisers when he made this pick? They must have been in a drunken stupor. That's the only reason this colossal mistake should have taken place. Okay, maybe it wasn't whiskey; they were flying high on coke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 09/12/2008
- terrymill I'm a Fan of terrymill 2 fans permalink

They knew what they were doing. The base doesn't like McCain. He is not conservative enough. They needed someone who was a right wing gun totting ultra-neocon and having it be a young-ish, good looking hockey mom was perfect for them. There was gonna be a fight on the floor of the convention if they didn't make this move.

Even Newt Gingrich doesn't really believe that Sarah Palin knows jack about how to run this country. He said himself that if Obama picked Hillary as his running mate, there would have been no way that they would have picked Sarah Palin.

Palin is being used in this stupid game and she is too dumb to see that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 09/12/2008
- mcpalin I'm a Fan of mcpalin 4 fans permalink

He did it behind their backs, he had a lawyer do the "vetting" and even his closest aides didn't know whom he had chosen. He did an end run around the people who were supposed to keep him from doing something stupid....something, like, well, this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 09/12/2008
- JohnIII I'm a Fan of JohnIII 9 fans permalink

Is the Bush doctrine a made up name? Or is it an official government term?

Regardless, the question easily could have been asked, "Do you agree with President Bush on preemptive strikes of other nations?".

Whether she knows the term or night seems irrelevant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 09/12/2008
- mh01 I'm a Fan of mh01 26 fans permalink

careful, you're about to get piled on by the lefties!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 09/12/2008

yea you're so right... how can we expect our vp nominees to know anything about hte most important foreign policy change in the last 30 years? gibson should have asked better, dont blame palin for not knowing anythign about whats been going on with US foreign policy for the last 8 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 09/12/2008

The Bush Doctrine is a well-recognized term that has been used post-Sept. 11. It includes the notion of "preemptive war", not simply "preemptive strikes" (everybody believes in those, Clinton executed a few). Wikipedia has a good, comprehensive, definition.

Does it matter that she did not even recognize the term? Well, yes. She is, after all, asserting preparation & willingness to lead foreign policy.
James Fallows explains it better than me:
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_palin_interview.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 09/12/2008
- utahbro I'm a Fan of utahbro 13 fans permalink
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As I watched the interview I couldn’t help but thinking immediately of Miss Teen USA 2007 - Ms. South Carolina. Remember "Such as the Iraq"? I don't like her at all but I actually started feeling sorry for her because she was so nervous and uninformed. I can't even begin to imagine why she would have said yes to McCain as she is supremely unqualified for the job. Hockey mom yes, VP NO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 09/12/2008
- utahbro I'm a Fan of utahbro 13 fans permalink
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Another way of looking at it - She hasn't even mastered the technique of dodging questions by changing the subject or turning the question around and attacking her opponent. I have to say that she is a rookie by any standard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

Can someone here please tell me exactly how she should have defined the Bush Doctrine?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 09/12/2008
- Housewife I'm a Fan of Housewife 25 fans permalink

It is the argument the neo-cons use for pre-emptive war. You can attack and invade a soverign nation even if they have not attacked you first if you believe they are a threat to your security. It was a completely bogus argument for going to Iraq. Having said that, the least she should have known was, what it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/12/2008

well, considering she looked liek a deer caught in headlights when he asked about it, then went on to talk about terrorism.. The bush doctrine was about invading another nation who poses a threat, (see iraq). Since the terrorism she's discussing isn't state-sponsored, her answer was obviously uneducated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/12/2008
- tschlak I'm a Fan of tschlak 2 fans permalink

Erm...

How about: "initiating a pre-emptive military strike or an all-out war in order to protect America from perceived threats to our security?"

Will that work for ya?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 09/12/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

Gibson asked her if accepting the VP nomination took hubris. Is Charlie Gibson calling her uppity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 09/12/2008
- skyreader7 I'm a Fan of skyreader7 7 fans permalink

Instead of being on the ticket, she should be given a ticket for wasting all our time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 09/12/2008
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