McCain-Palin Crowd-Size Estimates Not Backed by Officials

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First Posted: 09-13-08 12:48 PM   |   Updated: 10-14-08 05:12 AM

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Bloomberg:

Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming.

McCain aide Kimmie Lipscomb told reporters on Sept. 10 that an outdoor rally in Fairfax City, Virginia, drew 23,000 people, attributing the crowd estimate to a fire marshal.

Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson said his office did not supply that number to the campaign and could not confirm it. Wilson, in an interview, said the fire department does not monitor attendance at outdoor events.

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Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the f...
Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the f...
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- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 95 fans permalink
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They are such a motley looking pair. One looks like he is ready to die any minute, and the other looks like she is ready to kill everything in her path. Yeeeeech!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 09/13/2008
- Housewife I'm a Fan of Housewife 25 fans permalink

I think the Republicans are so desperate to stop being losers they will support anything. Eventually the lying is going to take its toll. Every up has its down and now that so many conservatives have hitched their wagon to the Palin star, when it goes down she'll be taking all of them with her. It is going to happen. She isn't really that good. The emperor has no clothes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 09/13/2008
- Totto I'm a Fan of Totto 43 fans permalink

Emperor one (Bush), Empress (Palin)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 09/13/2008
- imright606 I'm a Fan of imright606 4 fans permalink

No, correction: that would be PRESIDENT Bush and Future VICE-PRESIDENT Palin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 09/13/2008
- pjean I'm a Fan of pjean 12 fans permalink

America’s Economic Decline thanks to 7 years of George Bush and his party:

Home Foreclosures: 1.25Mil
Unemployment: 6.1% highest in 5 year
Jobless Claims: 444,000
Inflation: 5.6% highest in 17 years
Consumer Price Index: 5.5% highest in 17 years
Banks Closed this year: 10
117 on watch list 200 vulnerable
Fannie & Freddie Seized by Government

Figures obtained from McLaughlin Group 9/13/08

No Way
No How
No McCain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 09/13/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

how much were the home foreclosures 10 years ago vs how many people owned homes? Is there a greater percent of people that now own homes then 10 years ago.....

many people have purchase bank owned property.......nothing is wrong with that.......there are some great purchases....i purchased some properties and let the local fire department use the 3 houses for training......now I have expanded on to one of the properties.....the other 2 properties are for the shop EMPs to park.......2 years ago i would not have been able to expand.......I have hired many more people because 3 families made a dumb mortgage deal..........i say thanks to their stupidity....... one more house that borders my property is in danger of becoming bank owned.......I have made an offer to buy it for future expansion

the beautiful thing was i paid nothing for the house removal.....the fire department burned them down for training........all i had to do was haul away 3 dump truck loads of material that would not burn then grade the property........it was great i could not have planned it better

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 09/13/2008
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Whopdee doo, good for you! Vote for more of the same then, since all is well for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 09/13/2008

You know I bet you would enjoy going to storage facilities and biding on the last items that families own because they not only lost their home but now can't afford to keep up with their storage cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 09/13/2008
- RatgurlSD I'm a Fan of RatgurlSD 11 fans permalink

So by your very actions, you support socialism. OR you expect something in return....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 09/13/2008
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wow. do you have any idea just how mean and nasty you come across as? you actually feel good about 3 families losing their homes? yikes. glad i'm not your neighbor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 09/13/2008

YOU FORGOT ONE MORE NAME... NO SARAH PALIN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 09/13/2008
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They're attached at the hip. One goes they both go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 09/13/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

full employment was always 5%.......6.1% sounds great

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 09/13/2008

6.1% only represents those still receiving unemployment benefits. It does not take into account those that have exhausted their benefits and are still unemployed. This number is a complete sham. We could be at 10 - 15 -20% but that would never come out because no one knows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 09/13/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

6.1% is the Bush figure, so we know for a fact it is much higher.

Unless you really think that golf course water holes are wetlands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 09/13/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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Obama Camp Memo on The Straight Talk Express
http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-on-the-straight-talk-express/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 09/13/2008
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Excellent! Let's see what the MSM does with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 09/13/2008
- grata2ude I'm a Fan of grata2ude 61 fans permalink

Its almost funny that its probably better to report if and when the Republicans tell the truth. Right now all the headlines are the same old same. Lies Lies and more lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 09/13/2008

You have got to be kidding me. Everyone now knows that O has exaggerated his crowd size several times, including in Germany. This is asking the GOP to remind the public of that. Oi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 09/13/2008
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PLEASE crawl back in your hole! I'd have confirmation of the Berlin crowd sent to you officially by the mayor's office if you wish, but I know it'd be a waste. You people don't believe in truth!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 09/13/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 52 fans permalink
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ACTUALLY THEY WERE UNDER ESTIMATED

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 09/13/2008
- mick7191 I'm a Fan of mick7191 36 fans permalink
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Send money. O/B08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 09/13/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

Why is it that there is not a single left-wing fanatic who owns a dictionary? They label every difference of opinion as a "lie," and as J. Bush's dog says in the baked bean commercials, "That's just crazy!"

More seriously, I don't suppose that, on all of history, anybody ever over- or under-estimated a crowd size before.

The problems with sites like these is that the crazies get together and massively amplify their own lunacy by intellectual incest. This is probably why they get so nasty about anyone with a different viewpoint. Injecting substantive discussion causes the fanatics here to recoil as does a vampire from a garlic necklace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 09/13/2008

John McCan't-tell-the-truth and Sarah P. Lying

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 09/13/2008

Here's the bumper sticker I want:

McCain-Palin
STOP LYING

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 09/13/2008

Or, NO MORE LIES!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 09/13/2008
- CTmom13 I'm a Fan of CTmom13 9 fans permalink

Tell me it isn't so? McCain lied? No

Does McCain/Palin ever tell the truth?

McCain has no honor or integrity left

McCain/Palin = LIARS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 09/13/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

ok come on.........the people went through a metal detector......... they know exactly how many people attended.........then to ask the Fire Marshall is beyond stupid he has no control over outside events he stated that himself ........nice try though

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 09/13/2008
- zendem1 I'm a Fan of zendem1 116 fans permalink

A little punctuation goes a long, long way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 09/13/2008

You dolt, even if they went through metal detectors they don't have a click counter with them. God you trolls need to wake up and smell what your campaign is shoveling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 09/13/2008
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BS! The secret service could not confirm the metal detector number, they said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 09/13/2008
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I've never seen as many blatant and outright lies from two public officials. Liars both. America will get what they deserve if they elect clarabell and twinkle toes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 09/13/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

Except that when McCain lies, that growth on his cheek gets bigger, not his nose.

Ok, that's terrible of me...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 09/13/2008
- YunekFlava I'm a Fan of YunekFlava 68 fans permalink
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Tucker Bounds, of the mccain campaign said "Since day one, this campaign has been consistent that we're not going to win or lose based on crowd size but the substance of John McCain's record,'' . So why is the campaign lying? And why we're at it, 'are you talking about the STRAIGHT TALK record, or the FAKE TALK record'?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 09/13/2008

The Palin-mccain Rove smear machine think they can make up any lie and voters will believe as in past elections. Wrong. Some of us refuse to be spoonfeed. They're as inadequate as politicians as I would be doing brain surgery. Yet they still have voters who hear the lies and blindly follow. Keep yourself informed. inform everyone.Finally some in the media are speaking out. OBAMA/BIDEN 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 09/13/2008

I think a lie dectector test is in order for both of them!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 09/13/2008

Labor Day
Mccain had a ralley in a sports field in St Charles Mo...they annonced there that 24,000 people were in attendance....BUT the spokesman for the baseball team whos field it is said that their was no way it was crowd that size and thought it was about half that amount...the surprising thing is that at least one of our stations the CBS affilliate reported that....

So much for the STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS..
lies lies and more lies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 09/13/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 182 fans permalink

The actual number was 8,000, so it was a slight exaggeration, like her trip to Ireland and Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 09/13/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

how did you pull that number

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 09/13/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

As I recall, the Farrakhan Million-man March had less than half that number. The sponsors of an event tend to optimism. Official reports of most left-wing rallies and crowds tend to be considerably less than the sponsor's estimates. It's the nature of life and human nature. It's NOT lying. They BELIEVED their estimates, and thus they weren't lies. You folks have to chip in and buy a dictionary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 09/13/2008

Are you saying the million man march had less than 24,000 people or less than 1,000,000 million people?

Please clarify.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 09/13/2008
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