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TIM PARADIS | September 15, 2008 06:22 PM EST | AP

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Elizabeth Rose of Lehman Brothers MarketMakers works at her post on the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange, Monday, Sept. 15, 2008. Stocks retreated sharply and Treasury bond prices jumped Monday as investors reacted to a stunning reshaping of the landscape of Wall Street that took out two storied names: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Merrill Lynch & Co. The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 300 points. (AP Photo/David Karp)

NEW YORK — A stunning makeover of the Wall Street landscape sent stocks falling precipitously Monday, with the Dow Jones industrials losing 500 points in their worst slide since the September 2001 terrorist attacks. Investors recoiled after a shakeup of the financial industry that took out two storied names: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Merrill Lynch & Co.

The pullback, which erased about $700 billion in shareholder wealth, occurred across much of the globe as investors absorbed Lehman's bankruptcy filing and what was essentially a forced sale of Merrill Lynch to Bank of America for $50 billion in stock. While those companies' situations had reached some resolution, the market remained anxious about American International Group Inc., which is seeking funding to shore up its balance sheet. A faltering of the world's largest insurance company likely would have implications far beyond that of Lehman, already the largest U.S. bankruptcy in terms of assets.

The swift developments that took place Sunday are the biggest yet in the 14-month-old credit crisis that stems from now toxic subprime mortgage debt.

For the first part of Monday's trading, the market was falling, but in a largely orderly fashion as investors seemed to draw some relief from the resolution of Lehman's problems. As the session wore on, and there was no word about AIG, the market suffered another bout of fear that the credit crisis will continue to devastate the financial sector. Selling accelerated in the final hour and then took on more momentum as stock indexes broke through lows set in July _ an ominous sign for some traders.

Monday's trading followed the pattern of the past year; there were some signs of optimism, but they were dashed when investors weary of bad news perceived there was more ahead.

Investors are worried that trouble at AIG and the bankruptcy filing by Lehman, felled by $60 billion in bad debt and a dearth of investor confidence, will touch off another series of troubles for banks and financial institutions that may be forced to further write down the value of their own debt assets. Wall Street had been hopeful six months ago that the collapse of Bear Stearns Cos. would mark the darkest day of the credit crisis.

AIG's troubles are worrisome for some investors because of the company's enormous balance sheet and the risks that its troubles could spill over to the companies with which it does business. AIG, one of the 30 stocks that make up the Dow industrials, fell $7.38, or 61 percent, to $4.76 as investors worried that it would be the subject of downgrades from credit ratings agencies.

"We have a very, very nervous market and folks hate uncertainty," said Alfred E. Goldman, chief market strategist at Wachovia Securities in St. Louis. "They've been waiting for another shoe to drop and two of them dropped on Sunday."

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The market was expected to remain fractious when trading resumes Tuesday. Besides its continuing concerns about AIG, Wall Street will be waiting anxiously for the Federal Reserve's regular policy-making meeting. The central bank is expected to keep rates steady, though some traders have speculated about a surprise rate cut. The market will be looking for signs from the Fed that it is willing to lower rates amid the nation's continuing economic problems and because the price of oil has retreated sharply from its highs in July. The drop in oil gives the inflation-wary Fed more room to maneuver.

The Dow fell 504.48, or 4.42 percent, to 10,917.51, moving below the 11,000 mark for the first time since mid-July. It was the worst point drop for the Dow since it lost 684.81 on Sept. 17, 2001, the first day of trading after the terror attacks.

In percentage terms, the drop was the steepest since July 19, 2002. It was also the sixth-largest point drop in the Dow, just behind the 508.00 it suffered in the October 1987 crash.

The Dow is now down about 23 percent from its record high of 14,198.09 last October.

Broader stock indicators also fell. The Standard & Poor's 500 index declined 59.00, or 4.71 percent, to 1,192.70 _ also its biggest drop since 9/11 and the first time it closed below 1,200 in three years.

The Nasdaq composite index fell 81.36, or 3.60 percent, to 2,179.91; that was its worst point loss since Jan. 4.

The Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index, an index that measures the value of 5,000 U.S.-based companies, fell 4.53 percent Monday, giving investors an overall paper loss of about $700 billion.

Declining issues overwhelmed advancers on the New York Stock Exchange, where 164 stocks rose compared with 3,064 that fell. Consolidated volume came to an extremely heavy 8.05 billion shares, compared with 6.11 billion traded Friday.

Oil closed below $100 for the first time in six months as investors worried that a slowing economy would hurt demand. Light, sweet crude fell $5.47 to settle at $95.71 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Oil is down sharply from its mid-July highs when it hit a record over $147 a barrel.

Bond prices surged as investors fled to the security of government debt. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, plunged to 3.41 percent from 3.72 percent late Friday. The dollar was lower against other major currencies, while gold prices rose.

Investors likely shrank from snapping up any bargains Monday after Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said from the White House he "never once" considered using taxpayer money to help prop up Lehman. That punctured some hopes that the federal government might come to the rescue of AIG.

But AIG pared some of its losses after New York Gov. David Paterson said the company will be allowed to access $20 billion of assets held by its subsidiaries to stay in business. Paterson asked the state's insurance regulators to in essence allow AIG to provide a bridge loan to itself. Investors are worried that the company could need up to $40 billion to aid its balance sheet.

Other financial stocks fell as investors worried about the strength of banks' balance sheets. Washington Mutual Inc. fell 73 cents, or 27 percent, to $2, while Wachovia Corp. fell $3.56, or 25 percent, to $10.71.

Merrill rose 1 cent to $17.06, while Bank of America fell $7.19, or 21 percent, to $26.55.

Goldman noted, however, that the market's sell-off wasn't the cathartic move the market needed to purge its worries over bad debt and the tight credit conditions that have hobbled the economy. At some point, he contends, stock valuations will prove too tempting for investors sitting on the sidelines with piles of cash.

"At some point the sellers have done their dastardly deed," he said.

Scott Fullman, director of derivatives investment strategy for WJB Capital Group in New York, said investors should remember that while the financial sector founders, others like consumer names aren't suffering as much.

"While they might get hit hard they won't get hit as hard," said Fullman.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. fell 78 cents to $61.63, while Coca-Cola Co. rose 25 cents to $54.75.

But even good news like a drop in oil and some resolution to fears about Merrill couldn't prevent a sell-off abroad. Markets in Tokyo and several other Asian money centers were closed for holidays. Britain's FTSE 100 fell 3.92 percent, Germany's DAX index lost 2.74 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 3.78 percent.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 30.50, or 4.23 percent, to 689.76.

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NEW YORK — A stunning makeover of the Wall Street landscape sent stocks falling precipitously Monday, with the Dow Jones industrials losing 500 points in their worst slide since the September 20...
NEW YORK — A stunning makeover of the Wall Street landscape sent stocks falling precipitously Monday, with the Dow Jones industrials losing 500 points in their worst slide since the September 20...
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- jparso3 I'm a Fan of jparso3 3 fans permalink

Just had this to say before I leave this evening According to CNBC If AIG does not get 75 billion in funding tomorrow they will have to file for bankrupcy on Wensday

Night all its been fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 09/15/2008
- rhubardpi I'm a Fan of rhubardpi 4 fans permalink

I'm sending "em a check for $2.00 tomorrow......yippee we're all gonna die....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 AM on 09/16/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 115 fans permalink
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– Seeking to explain his shift to the left on economic issues, McCain claimed: “I didn’t pay nearly the attention to those issues in the past. I was probably a ’supply-sider’ based on the fact that I really didn’t jump into the issue.” [Jan. 2000]

– “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.” [Nov. 2005]

– “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” but “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” [Dec. 2007]

Greenspan just said that McCains plan would be a failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 09/15/2008
- calichic I'm a Fan of calichic 17 fans permalink

That second quote is especially frightening since he doesn't seem to know much about foreign policy either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 09/15/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

lol figures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 09/15/2008
- calichic I'm a Fan of calichic 17 fans permalink

I wonder if Greenspan---a Republican---will vote for Obama. I bet he will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 09/15/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

He's been calling himself a Libertarian these last few years....

Libertarian = a con that is ashamed of voting for Bush

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 09/15/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 115 fans permalink
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When Isaacson said the proposal would have to be on the table to be negotiated off the table, McCain drew a smattering of laughter when he said “I have to be against tax increases, as you know.”

McCain’s Economist: We Need Tax Increases
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/13/mccains-economist-we-need-tax-rises/

TAXES: In 2001 and 2003, McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, saying that they would “mostly benefit the wealthy.” But in 2006 he voted to extend them and now he wants to double them.

So what was your price mr "Maverick"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 09/15/2008
- GaBu I'm a Fan of GaBu 23 fans permalink
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thegreatgiginthesky See Profile I'm a Fan of thegreatgiginthesky I'm a fan of this user permalink

I've been a Christian all my life and I've never understood people going to war and using the words of a pacifist to justify their actions.
Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 09/15/2008

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There was no war in the Bible was there?

Answer this question:

Why did G o d say in the ten commandments not to ki ll, and to love thy neighbor, when he was sending his people to take over a land that was already occupied, and so they would have to ki ll the people living there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 09/15/2008
- mijumom I'm a Fan of mijumom 14 fans permalink

Is this a trick question, Charlie?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 09/15/2008
- spunky5408 I'm a Fan of spunky5408 24 fans permalink

Night all......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 09/15/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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night, night ! - thanks for the contributions ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 09/15/2008
- spunky5408 I'm a Fan of spunky5408 24 fans permalink

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 09/15/2008
- GaBu I'm a Fan of GaBu 23 fans permalink
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You know, there are about 5 reasonably smart lib posters here.

The responses from the rest of you must surely be a source of embarrassment to them, and they are torn between pointing out certain obvious facts to you, and not wanting to expose your ignorance for all to see.

Now you can fight amongst yourselves to determine which of you are included in the 5
I mentioned.

So, now that's over with, who want ice cream?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 09/15/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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I don't feel comfortable with your idea of smart -

so, I'd like to volunteer to be one of the un-smart - thanks !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 09/15/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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i'll take the ice cream, tho' -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 09/15/2008
- jgalvan I'm a Fan of jgalvan 18 fans permalink
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shaaaadup

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 09/15/2008
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Thanks Ms Cleo, say hi to Dionne (aka BettyJo) for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 09/15/2008
- calichic I'm a Fan of calichic 17 fans permalink

As if anyone here gives a s h i t what you think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 09/15/2008
- mijumom I'm a Fan of mijumom 14 fans permalink

I'd rather not know. I'd be so insulted if I showed up on your smart list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 09/15/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

The GOP believes, the top of the pyramid supports the bottom. Just prop up the top.....until the consumer comes back from debtors prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 09/15/2008

They believe a lot of weird things. It's kinda bizarre.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 09/15/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

What would we do without them?

Progress?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 09/15/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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MCCAIN (today): "The fundamentals of our economy are sound."

The "sound" however is that of a toilet flushing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 09/15/2008
- AllenD I'm a Fan of AllenD 36 fans permalink
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On Bill Clinton's last day in office, the DOW closed at 10,587. It now stands at 10,917 and is currently in a death spiral with more banking failures on the way. Bush has been horrible for Main Street. Looks like he wasn't so good for investors either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/15/2008
- jgalvan I'm a Fan of jgalvan 18 fans permalink
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He and Cheney only worried about big oil and they are doing quite well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 09/15/2008

what party was in office when the depression happened? why did it happen?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/15/2008
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Republican: Hoover caused it.

Democrat: Roosevelt fixed it with the new deal.

As to what caused it, this is too complicated to explain.

Try visiting this site:

http://americanhistory.about.com/od/greatdepression/tp/greatdepression.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 09/15/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

A decade of Republican economics, feed Wall Street at all costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 09/15/2008
- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

They now blame tariffs , but the Smoot Halley tariff, wasn't the first time a country raised tariffs. The reason the country turned to a tariff increase was it had worked well in the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 09/15/2008
- Ozarks I'm a Fan of Ozarks 49 fans permalink
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Repugs _ Herbert Hoover also said " The fundamentals are strong" right before the 1929 crash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 09/16/2008
- spunky5408 I'm a Fan of spunky5408 24 fans permalink

blink! blink!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/15/2008

this stock crash is going to help the GOP because people think they are better with money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 09/15/2008
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Imagine their chagrin when they wake up and learn that screwed us all up AGAIN?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 09/16/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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Good night fun people...and tr0lls....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 09/15/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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G'night MOM ! (that felt weird, since my mom is in Victoria, Canada & not you) but :
G'night MOM !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/15/2008
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Night

BTW where in Michigan are you??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/15/2008
- spunky5408 I'm a Fan of spunky5408 24 fans permalink

nite!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 09/15/2008
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Give a million dollar tax cut to one rich man and he'll hoard the money in a new addition to his art collection or invest it in a company that's based overseas.

Give a million dollar tax cut to 1000 poor people and they'll buy groceries at the local PigglyWiggly, pay their bills and buy a tank of gas, thereby employing dozens of people here in the states and driving our economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 09/15/2008
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Well put.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 09/15/2008
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Yes but the one rich man can't control WHICH pigglywiggly the proles will go to, and that is simply an unacceptable loss of control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 09/15/2008
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whoops, should be a $1000 dollar tax cut to 1000 poor people (equals a million)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 09/15/2008
- calichic I'm a Fan of calichic 17 fans permalink

demand side economics---even Ford understood this back in the day, when he explained why he payed his workers so well, he pointed out that well payed workers became potential customers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 09/15/2008
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An Explanation of Trickle Down Economics:

1. Definition One: Take a table laden with food. Invite only the top 2% wealthiest people, the multi national corporations, some lobbyists and politicians. Now watch them feed. Watch them eat and eat and eat. Gorging themselves until they are ill. The more they stuff their faces, the more chance that a few saliva laden crumbs fall to the floor. Now you and me are welcome to eat all the crumbs off the floor we can find, provided the family dog doesn't get there first.

2. Definition Two: Think of a multinational corporation as one would a large dog "trickling down" onto you as if you were a fire hydrant.

Grateful Yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 09/15/2008
- RSU I'm a Fan of RSU 100 fans permalink
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Ha ha ha ha ha . . . They don't eat their money!

They buy things that lessers produce to enhance their livings. Those lessers, such as you for instance, get to keep your job that allows you to afford a home, go to the grocery store, and fill up your gas tank so you can do it all over again tomorrow.

If you were smarter, you'd do like others do and educate yourself on how capitalism works. With the tools of knowledge at hand, and perhaps with time and determination, you too could sit at a table laden with food making the world turn at your whim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 09/15/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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Jon Stewart is on...... :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 09/15/2008
- spunky5408 I'm a Fan of spunky5408 24 fans permalink

g0d. she is so smug......ugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 09/15/2008
- spunky5408 I'm a Fan of spunky5408 24 fans permalink

i meant SP.. she was on Jon when i posted that. just to clarify.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 09/15/2008
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Love that man!!

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