Ultra-Orthodox party emerging as Israel kingmaker

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AMY TEIBEL | September 18, 2008 03:12 PM EST | AP

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Israeli Foreign Minister and newly elected Kadima party chair Tzipi Livni gives a statement to the press outside her house in Tel Aviv, Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008. Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni declared victory Thursday in a surprisingly tight race to replace Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as head of Israel's governing party, and said she would immediately turn to the task of trying to cobble together a new government. (AP Photo/Alon Ron)

JERUSALEM — An ultra-Orthodox Jewish party run by an octogenarian rabbi who has said Hurricane Katrina was divine punishment emerged Thursday as the kingmaker in forming the next Israeli government.

Having won a fight to be leader of the ruling Kadima Party, Tzipi Livni now will likely need Shas as a partner to become prime minister. But Shas opposes any compromise on Jerusalem, and including it in a coalition could tie her hands in peace talks with the Palestinians.

Livni's narrow victory in a party primary Wednesday to replace corruption-tainted Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as Kadima's chairman means she can become prime minister if she can put together a coalition government of her own.

Livni, now the foreign minister, has said she would like to keep the current four-party coalition intact.

Two of Kadima's partners, Labor and the Pensioners, aren't expected to balk. But Shas and its spiritual leader, Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, are wild cards. The party holds 12 of parliament's 120 seats, enough to make or break the current majority bloc of 67 lawmakers.

Livni had barely declared victory Thursday morning when Shas laid down its demands.

"If it's clear Jerusalem is on the negotiating table and social-economic needs are not taken into consideration, then we won't be part of the coalition," Shas spokesman Roi Lachmanovitch said.

Shas Cabinet minister Ariel Attias said the party wants more funding from the cash-strapped government for the welfare projects that are popular with its low-income constituents.

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Formal coalition negotiations won't begin until Olmert officially resigns and President Shimon Peres assigns Livni the task of forming a new government, which could happen next week.

But Livni said she would begin informal coalition negotiations immediately. In one of her first acts as Kadima leader, she scheduled a meeting with Shas leaders late Thursday. Shas leader Eli Yishai said they discussed setting up a coalition.

If Livni can't keep the coalition intact, elections would likely be called for early next year _ some 18 months ahead of schedule. In either case, Olmert will remain as a caretaker leader until a new Cabinet is approved.

With opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu and his hard-line Likud Party polling well, Livni is under heavy pressure to keep the 67-seat coalition intact and avoid elections.

Netanyahu made his preference clear. "The cleanest and most democratic thing to do is to hold a general election," he told reporters Thursday.

Shaul Mofaz, the ex-defense minister and military chief who lost to Livni in the Kadima primary, called a news conference to announce plans to leave politics.

"I am not asking for role or a position in the Cabinet or the parliament," he said. He did not say whether he planned to resign now or just not to seek another term in parliament.

Negotiations could drag on for weeks.

Kadima lawmaker Amira Dotan said she expected Shas to make excessive demands. "This is the way we educated them for a long, long time," she said, referring to concessions made to Shas to entice the party into governing coalitions.

Dotan said Kadima is ready to compromise but has other options.

"Kadima is a centrist party," she said, so a number of parties "can very easily make a coalition with Kadima." She mentioned the small dovish Meretz party and smaller religious parties, which together have one less seat than Shas.

Israeli politicians traditionally have been willing to meet Shas' spending demands.

But declaring a moratorium on Jerusalem negotiations would be tough for Livni. As Israel's lead peace negotiator, she is committed to discussing all issues with the Palestinians. The future of Jerusalem, claimed by Israel and the Palestinians, is at the heart of the conflict.

Menachem Friedman, an expert on Jewish religious society in Israel, said Shas ultimately wants to stay in the government. He said Shas realizes any agreement with the Palestinians is a long way off.

"Jerusalem is a matter of wording," Friedman said. He thinks Shas will be more intransigent about its budget demands because the ultra-Orthodox Jewish sector, where most men shun work for religious study, is in desperate need of resources.

With Yosef at the helm, Shas burst onto Israel's political scene in the 1990s, appealing to the resentment of Sephardim _ Israelis of Middle Eastern and North African descent _ who were long snubbed by Israel's European-born ruling elite.

Yosef, a former chief rabbi of Israel who was born in Iraq, enjoys a papal-like authority among his followers, who revere him for his religious scholarship and his devotion to empowering the disenfranchised Sephardim.

But in wider Israeli society, Yosef _ known as much for his sunglasses, turban and gold-embroidered robes as his sometimes outrageous pronouncements _ is highly controversial.

He once enjoyed a reputation as a dovish religious figure, arguing that the saving of Israeli lives pre-empted settling occupied lands and that serious efforts should be made to reach a peace accord with the Arabs. But he did not support the 1990s peace agreements with the Palestinians and denounced Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in 2005.

In one speech, Yosef said the Old City of Jerusalem, home to shrines sacred to Judaism, Islam and Christianity, was "swarming" with Arabs "like ants."

"They should go to hell _ and the Messiah shall speed them on their way," he said.

On another occasion, Yosef castigated then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's Gaza pullout, then implored: "May God strike him down."

Yosef also stirred controversy by describing the Holocaust as God's retribution against the reincarnated souls of Jewish sinners. He said Katrina was punishment for godlessness in New Orleans and U.S. support for the Gaza pullout. And he once said that "walking between two women is like walking between two donkeys or between two camels."

Livni could theoretically lead a minority government with the tacit backing of far-left and Arab parties outside a ruling coalition. But such an arrangement would make it difficult for her to claim a mandate for sweeping agreements with the Palestinians or with Syria.

JERUSALEM — An ultra-Orthodox Jewish party run by an octogenarian rabbi who has said Hurricane Katrina was divine punishment emerged Thursday as the kingmaker in forming the next Israeli governm...
JERUSALEM — An ultra-Orthodox Jewish party run by an octogenarian rabbi who has said Hurricane Katrina was divine punishment emerged Thursday as the kingmaker in forming the next Israeli governm...
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- ZenJu I'm a Fan of ZenJu 40 fans permalink

If Livni becomes Prime Minister, I hope she will reverse the horrifying trend of Olmert to give weak or inaccurate responses to the fanatic terrorist nutballs in Gaza and Lebanon, Hamas and Hizbullah. Israel needs a strong leadership with vision now, another Ben-Gurion, who can carry Israel through these dark times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 09/18/2008

If you lived in the Palestinian West Bank what would be YOUR response!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 09/18/2008

It's Judea and Samaria! I'd try for peace rather than send teens to blow themselves up so they can kill women and kids in pizza parlors! I'd form institutions that could ready the people for peace! I'd stop the propaganda in kids school books!!! And much more! Where is the Arab equivalent of Israel's "Peace NOW"??? it's MIA!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 09/18/2008
- ZenJu I'm a Fan of ZenJu 40 fans permalink

Interesting. It is hoped that I would be realistic, look at the possibilities, tire of the mindless violence and "days of rage" nonsense that power-hungry thugs were foisting on me and my family, and choose peace. I hope I'd have the sense to start BUILDING and CREATING instead of destroying. I hope I'd have enough sense to develop myself and my life and my land to the best of my abilities, no matter the obstacles facing me---oh, wait, that's ISRAEL I'm talking about!
The Arabs COULD have had a "Palestinian" state in the West Bank and Gaza at any time between, say, 1949 and 1967---why not? They COULD have had one when Barak met Arafat in 2000--why not? Do some research.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 09/19/2008

The beat goes on, too much foreign policy experience, Livni attacked by Hilary meme

Likud MK Gilad Arden

"We believe that the public will vote not on who can answer the phone at 3 A.M. but on who they think can lead the state of Israel."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1022140.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 09/18/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 110 fans permalink

I truly hope there IS a God, but whether there is or not, there certainly does seem to be some historical force that is crushing the Likudnics both in America (meaning the Republican neocons and the Clinton Hillraisers, not to mention the egregious Lieberman, the godfather of them all), with the seeming destruction of McCain by the stock market crash which he is helpless to run away from, and with the wonderful victory for Livni and peace in Israel itself. If Obama and Livni both win, there will truly be a new day in the Middle East, one which will invert the stupid, bloody, and disastrous Likud fiascos of Lebanon, the neocon proxy war for Likud in Iraq, and the terrible treatment of the Palestinians, and bring the first real hope for peace in the region since Camp David. Justice is finally prevailing, whether through divine providence or simply the decency of humans of good will in America and Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 09/18/2008

Good if Levni is PM. She's tough negotiator. I wonder what miracle would bring democracy to the rest of the oppressive petty kingdoms o f the Middle East? Perhaps they can emulate the shining example of Israeli freedom, democracy and superior social care for all of its citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 09/18/2008

And what will the ARABS do for peace??? Grab for more Israeli land??? Get a life!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 09/18/2008

Livni a new PM. Another example of thriving Israeli democracy. A tough minded politician who is willing to take risks. A VAST improvement over the hapless Olmert.BRAVA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 09/18/2008

It's terrible for all the Israel hat ers. A smart women gets elected to future PM post and gets to form a government. Obviously, in U.S. this could never happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 09/17/2008
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NO NO NO NO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 09/17/2008
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Another Lawyer, NO NO NO NO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 09/17/2008
- Fight4USA8 I'm a Fan of Fight4USA8 10 fans permalink

If there is anyway the Likud Party could get rid of Benjamin Netanyahu the warmonger, the world would have been a better place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 09/17/2008

Is there anyway the Islam civilization can get rid of Osama, Assad, Ayatollah Khamenei , Ahmadinejad, Hezbollah, Muslim Jihad, Al Qaeda, Wahhabis, Hamas, the world would be a better place.... truly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 09/18/2008
- sedum I'm a Fan of sedum 3 fans permalink
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They could start by trying, instead of hoping,dreaming and putting faith in the great spaghetti monster in the sky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 09/18/2008

NO NO NO!!!! When did he ever declare war on anyone??? Malarky!! Another urban legend debunked!! He just does NOT want to negotiate with terrorists..we won't deal with Al-Qaeda,will we?? Why should Israel deal with people in Fatah and Hamas-people who want to dstroy Israel??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 09/18/2008
- sedum I'm a Fan of sedum 3 fans permalink
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Sure. Never negociate. Just keep arguing and shooting. That's sure to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 09/18/2008
- lwfky I'm a Fan of lwfky 11 fans permalink

Thank God! Now maybe we can get out of this neocon trap that Bush, McCain, Lieberman and all the rest of the Republicans have forced our country into.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 09/17/2008

Is that the trap of supporting Jews in Israel who fight terrorism every day on their doorsteps?? THAT trap???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 09/18/2008


From what I've learned about Livni, she's a "born again moderate" who understands that the "Palestinian Problem" will NEVER be solved through force.

Now, I don't pray often, but in the weeks to come I will be praying for a Livni victory along with an Obama victory.

The return of a rational, peaceful world may well depend on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 09/17/2008

If Israel never existed..the Arabs would STILL be killing each other!! For example..what did Israel have to do with the Iraq-Iran war that went on for 8 years?? NOTHING!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 09/18/2008
- guajiro I'm a Fan of guajiro 62 fans permalink

Very proud of Israel today. Peace is not a given but at least the effort may have some rewards. If anything, it shows your good intentions which is all anyone can ask for. Think of the big picture, we are all in it together, Europe, America. Africa, Asia, etc. There won't be any rewards today for those who do the right thing in bringing us all together, but your names will be a part of history forever. DO THE RIGHT THING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 09/17/2008
- olephart I'm a Fan of olephart 105 fans permalink

But, but if peace breaks out in the Middle East we’re not prepared. The weapons contracts, military aid programs our policies, they’re all geared for years of continuing strife. Our Fleet, our Aircraft Carriers our refueling stations all useless. We’ve got cluster bombs that haven’t been dropped on children! Oh the pain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 09/17/2008


But...but...it hurts SO GOOD. 8-]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 09/17/2008
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Brilliant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 09/18/2008
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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I think it's interesting that the US media would applaud a female leader of a foreign country. They worked hard against Segolene Royal to the point that the US was practically electioneering to rig the outcome, which is how they got the outcome they wanted.

As far as Livni goes, it's way too early to tell anything. All she's won is leadership of her party. Doesn't mean she's gonna hold any office. She's got her work cut out for her if Netanyahu is going to be opposing her. And if she is serious about the peace process and warming relations with the Palestinians, you can count her as losing already. Bush and Netanyahu will actively work against her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 09/17/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 17 fans permalink

Congratulation Tzipi Livni !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 09/17/2008
- rzan1 I'm a Fan of rzan1 55 fans permalink

She's a peacemaker, it sounds like. Let's just hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 09/17/2008
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