Ultra-Orthodox party emerging as Israel kingmaker

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AMY TEIBEL | September 18, 2008 03:12 PM EST | AP

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Israeli Foreign Minister and newly elected Kadima party chair Tzipi Livni gives a statement to the press outside her house in Tel Aviv, Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008. Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni declared victory Thursday in a surprisingly tight race to replace Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as head of Israel's governing party, and said she would immediately turn to the task of trying to cobble together a new government. (AP Photo/Alon Ron)

JERUSALEM — An ultra-Orthodox Jewish party run by an octogenarian rabbi who has said Hurricane Katrina was divine punishment emerged Thursday as the kingmaker in forming the next Israeli government.

Having won a fight to be leader of the ruling Kadima Party, Tzipi Livni now will likely need Shas as a partner to become prime minister. But Shas opposes any compromise on Jerusalem, and including it in a coalition could tie her hands in peace talks with the Palestinians.

Livni's narrow victory in a party primary Wednesday to replace corruption-tainted Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as Kadima's chairman means she can become prime minister if she can put together a coalition government of her own.

Livni, now the foreign minister, has said she would like to keep the current four-party coalition intact.

Two of Kadima's partners, Labor and the Pensioners, aren't expected to balk. But Shas and its spiritual leader, Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, are wild cards. The party holds 12 of parliament's 120 seats, enough to make or break the current majority bloc of 67 lawmakers.

Livni had barely declared victory Thursday morning when Shas laid down its demands.

"If it's clear Jerusalem is on the negotiating table and social-economic needs are not taken into consideration, then we won't be part of the coalition," Shas spokesman Roi Lachmanovitch said.

Shas Cabinet minister Ariel Attias said the party wants more funding from the cash-strapped government for the welfare projects that are popular with its low-income constituents.

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Formal coalition negotiations won't begin until Olmert officially resigns and President Shimon Peres assigns Livni the task of forming a new government, which could happen next week.

But Livni said she would begin informal coalition negotiations immediately. In one of her first acts as Kadima leader, she scheduled a meeting with Shas leaders late Thursday. Shas leader Eli Yishai said they discussed setting up a coalition.

If Livni can't keep the coalition intact, elections would likely be called for early next year _ some 18 months ahead of schedule. In either case, Olmert will remain as a caretaker leader until a new Cabinet is approved.

With opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu and his hard-line Likud Party polling well, Livni is under heavy pressure to keep the 67-seat coalition intact and avoid elections.

Netanyahu made his preference clear. "The cleanest and most democratic thing to do is to hold a general election," he told reporters Thursday.

Shaul Mofaz, the ex-defense minister and military chief who lost to Livni in the Kadima primary, called a news conference to announce plans to leave politics.

"I am not asking for role or a position in the Cabinet or the parliament," he said. He did not say whether he planned to resign now or just not to seek another term in parliament.

Negotiations could drag on for weeks.

Kadima lawmaker Amira Dotan said she expected Shas to make excessive demands. "This is the way we educated them for a long, long time," she said, referring to concessions made to Shas to entice the party into governing coalitions.

Dotan said Kadima is ready to compromise but has other options.

"Kadima is a centrist party," she said, so a number of parties "can very easily make a coalition with Kadima." She mentioned the small dovish Meretz party and smaller religious parties, which together have one less seat than Shas.

Israeli politicians traditionally have been willing to meet Shas' spending demands.

But declaring a moratorium on Jerusalem negotiations would be tough for Livni. As Israel's lead peace negotiator, she is committed to discussing all issues with the Palestinians. The future of Jerusalem, claimed by Israel and the Palestinians, is at the heart of the conflict.

Menachem Friedman, an expert on Jewish religious society in Israel, said Shas ultimately wants to stay in the government. He said Shas realizes any agreement with the Palestinians is a long way off.

"Jerusalem is a matter of wording," Friedman said. He thinks Shas will be more intransigent about its budget demands because the ultra-Orthodox Jewish sector, where most men shun work for religious study, is in desperate need of resources.

With Yosef at the helm, Shas burst onto Israel's political scene in the 1990s, appealing to the resentment of Sephardim _ Israelis of Middle Eastern and North African descent _ who were long snubbed by Israel's European-born ruling elite.

Yosef, a former chief rabbi of Israel who was born in Iraq, enjoys a papal-like authority among his followers, who revere him for his religious scholarship and his devotion to empowering the disenfranchised Sephardim.

But in wider Israeli society, Yosef _ known as much for his sunglasses, turban and gold-embroidered robes as his sometimes outrageous pronouncements _ is highly controversial.

He once enjoyed a reputation as a dovish religious figure, arguing that the saving of Israeli lives pre-empted settling occupied lands and that serious efforts should be made to reach a peace accord with the Arabs. But he did not support the 1990s peace agreements with the Palestinians and denounced Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in 2005.

In one speech, Yosef said the Old City of Jerusalem, home to shrines sacred to Judaism, Islam and Christianity, was "swarming" with Arabs "like ants."

"They should go to hell _ and the Messiah shall speed them on their way," he said.

On another occasion, Yosef castigated then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's Gaza pullout, then implored: "May God strike him down."

Yosef also stirred controversy by describing the Holocaust as God's retribution against the reincarnated souls of Jewish sinners. He said Katrina was punishment for godlessness in New Orleans and U.S. support for the Gaza pullout. And he once said that "walking between two women is like walking between two donkeys or between two camels."

Livni could theoretically lead a minority government with the tacit backing of far-left and Arab parties outside a ruling coalition. But such an arrangement would make it difficult for her to claim a mandate for sweeping agreements with the Palestinians or with Syria.

JERUSALEM — An ultra-Orthodox Jewish party run by an octogenarian rabbi who has said Hurricane Katrina was divine punishment emerged Thursday as the kingmaker in forming the next Israeli governm...
JERUSALEM — An ultra-Orthodox Jewish party run by an octogenarian rabbi who has said Hurricane Katrina was divine punishment emerged Thursday as the kingmaker in forming the next Israeli governm...
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- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 92 fans permalink

Good luck to Madame...and to the Israelis!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 09/17/2008
- polaris12 I'm a Fan of polaris12 16 fans permalink

It won't change anything. Israel has followed the same Likudnik policies for the last 60 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 09/17/2008

O, ye of little faith.

And even less historical background.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 09/17/2008
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She looks interesting, let's she how she does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 09/17/2008

Heavens to Palin !

she's an ex Mossad agent, fer christ's sake..............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 09/17/2008
- patianneb I'm a Fan of patianneb 18 fans permalink
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Livni 's win puts her "in a good position to become Israel's first female leader in 34 years and sending a message that peace talks with the Palestinians will proceed."
I find this extremely hopeful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 09/17/2008
- AdamWykle I'm a Fan of AdamWykle 8 fans permalink

Nothing will change, this state will continue to usurp, supress, deny, destroy, and systematically oppress its natural inhabitants with our full backing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 09/17/2008
- GOVSUX I'm a Fan of GOVSUX 3 fans permalink

jews are the natural inhabitants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 09/17/2008

I find this claim that Jews, who lived in Israel continuously for the last 3,000 years, are not natural inhabitants a particularly laughable fiction. Ah, but the Arabic people, who came there with successive Jihads out of Arabic Peninsula are somehow native occupants... right...
Bedouin are native inhabitants, but they get zero rights from Arabs in West Bank and esp. Gaza.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 09/18/2008
- ZenJu I'm a Fan of ZenJu 44 fans permalink

Nonsense. You're an Israel-baiter and I've seen your comments. Tiny Israel is a beleagured democracy with a significant Arab minority that enjoys more rights and benefits than most in the Arab/Islamic world. Arab women can vote and hold public office. Israeli Arabs can say and print what they wish. You're a LIAR adn anyone with a modicum of intelligence and effort can know it by doing some research. As for the inhabitants of Gaza and the "West Bank": They could have had a state at several junctures; instead, the record shows that they turn to violence and terror to destroy Israel, not work alongside it. The Arab regimes have consistently used these misfortunates for decades as political pawns against the Jewish State, where minorities, women, gays, and freethinkers can exist in safety. Your lies are exposed. Israel will endure!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 09/18/2008
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Peaceful coexistence and social justice will never be won by labeling either Jews or Palestinians "unnatural" inhabitants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 09/18/2008

Glad to see you make another Israeli thread...with the same venomous hatred for Israel AS ALWAYS!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 09/18/2008
- jgalvan I'm a Fan of jgalvan 18 fans permalink
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Looks like change is in the air.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 09/17/2008
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Congratulatons Israel, good stuff!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 09/17/2008

Now this is a real female leader. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 09/17/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

I heard her teenage daughter is pregnant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 09/17/2008
- TroubleNYC I'm a Fan of TroubleNYC 9 fans permalink
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She can see Egypt from her house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 09/17/2008
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Yea but she actually has real foreign policy experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 09/17/2008

No she can't!! Take a geography class!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 09/18/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

Great news!

A smart women - what a novel concept

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 09/17/2008

This is great news. Maybe, just maybe, we'll actually have a less belligerent Israel. It sounds like the Israeli neocon ruling party was defeated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 09/17/2008

Do you have the slightest idea as to what the term 'neocon' actually means?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 09/17/2008
- 1099 I'm a Fan of 1099 6 fans permalink

Get ready for BiBi!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 09/18/2008
- courtb I'm a Fan of courtb 19 fans permalink

You do know she's in the same party as the current Prime Minister, right? And that Kadima is not a far right political organization? No where near neocon....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 09/18/2008

As the Arabs treat women worse than their mules and camels...she will NOT be negotiated with by Arab men!!! That's just the way it is over there!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 09/18/2008
- Juanon I'm a Fan of Juanon 13 fans permalink
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Livini sounds like a good choice, so my comment to follow is not about her, but about the quoted supporter: "Joyce Amiel, a Kadima supporter in Tel Aviv, said she was voting for Livni "mainly because she is a woman, even though her positions are not clear. We think she would do the best job. We want her to win.""

So Amiel thinks Livini would do the best job, even though she doesn't know her positions! It is depressing that gender or race based voting isn't limited to just bigots and backwaters in the US!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 09/17/2008

eh, 90% of all African American voters, regardless of political affiliation support OB Kanobe--- clear demonstration of race-based voting....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 09/18/2008

Why should they support a party that hates them and does nothing for them??? They vote Dem 88% when WHITE men run for Pres. as DEMS!!! It's NOT race-based...it's voting for their own interests!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/18/2008

I think she is a moderate, which Israelis will need to lead them. Their neo-cons are almost as stupid and unrealistic as ours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 09/17/2008
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No their neo-cons are intelligent hawkish and expansionists, their intelligence is what scares the hell out of me. They know America will back Israel. Here's for Livni to bring some moderation back, and some sense back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 09/17/2008

expansionists? What expansion ARE you talking about. Israel have fought nothing but defensive wars since its inception. Israel kicked out Jordan and Egypt after they occupied and tried to annex West Bank and Gaza. Gave Sinai with its oil back to Egypt. Gave Gaza to Palestinians UNILATERALLY... this NEVER happened in the history of Middle East. About to give West Bank to Palestinians.Palestinian population is expanding dramatically in Israel and disputed territories. 25 % of Isareli population are Arabs.
Stop spreading propaganda unhelpful to peace and just plain deceitful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 09/18/2008
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