McCain Meant To Reject Spain Meeting, Adviser Says

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First Posted: 09-18-08 11:18 AM   |   Updated: 10-19-08 05:12 AM

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The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Zapatero.

"The questioner asked several times about Senator McCain's willingness to meet Zapatero (and id'd him in the question so there is no doubt Senator McCain knew exactly to whom the question referred). Senator McCain refused to commit to a White House meeting with President Zapatero in this interview," the Senator's foreign policy adviser Randy Sheunemann told the Washington Post.

Sheunemann's answer is likely to be cause deep ripples within the diplomatic community, as it represents a more aggressive and antagonistic approach than that deployed by the Bush administration. It also promises to be hotly contested, as a review of the McCain interview suggests that the Senator was confused as to who Zapatero actually was.

Appearing on the Miami-based Union Radio, a Spanish language radio station that conducted its interview in English, McCain touted his record "of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us, and standing up to those who are not." This came even after the questioner began that portion of the interview by saying: "let's talk about Spain." Listen:


(Transcript Below)

Certainly, it is possible that McCain misheard the question, though the topic was subsequently brought up three more times. But Scheunemann is now insisting that the Senator meant what he said. As such, it is important to understand how such a take on U.S.-Spain relations compares with current U.S. policy. As the Huffington Post reported Wednesday evening, the Bush administration has made overt gestures in recent years to overcome what once was a frosty relationship -- derived, primarily, from Spain's decision to remove forces from Iraq -- with the Zapatero government.

In July 2007, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice declared that "the United States and Spain are allies. We're in NATO together; we are serving together in Afghanistan. A lot of our conversation today was about that, working together on any number of issues. We've had our differences... [but] I feel that the relationship is warm. We had a good discussion today... We're allies. But when we have differences, we will express them. I think there's no secret that out of the Iraq war, we had a particular difference in the timing of the withdrawal. But that's behind us now, and we need to look forward and look to areas on which we can cooperate and work together."

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In fact, even McCain in the past has been open to closer diplomatic relations with Zapatero and Spain. As John Aravosis of AmericaBlog noted, the Senator gave an interview to El Pais back in April in which he said that the differences between the U.S. and Spain should be swept under the rug.

For what it's worth, Talking Points Memo's Greg Sargent got hold of the interviewer, who says she didn't think McCain was confused about who Zapatero was, but rather was ducking a question about a potential meeting with the prime minister.

"I didn't get the impression that he didn't know who Zapatero was or where Spain was," the reporter, Yoli Cuello, told me. "Honestly, what I thought was that he didn't want to answer the question with a yes or no answer."

Here is the transcript of the radio interview:

QUESTION: Senator, finally, let's talk about Spain. If you're elected president, would you be willing to invite President Jose Luiz Rodriguez Zapatero to the White House to meet with you?

MCCAIN: I would be willing meet, uh, with those leaders who our friends [sic] and want to work with us in a cooperative fashion, and by the way, President Calderon of Mexico is fighting a very very tough fight against the drug cartels. I'm glad we are now working in cooperation with the Mexican government on the Merida plan. I intend to move forward with relations, and invite as many of them as I can, those leaders, to the White House.

QUESTION: Would that invitation be extended to the Zapatero government, to the president itself?

MCCAIN: I don't, you know, honestly I have to look at relations and the situations and the priorities, but I can assure you I will establish closer relations with our friends and I will stand up to those who want to do harm to the United States of America.

QUESTION: So you have to wait and see if he's willing to meet with you, or you'll be able to do it in the White House?

MCCAIN: Well again I don't, all I can tell you is that I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us, and standing up to those who are not, and that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America, and the entire region.

QUESTION: Okay... what about Europe I'm talking about the President of Spain?

MCCAIN: What about me what?

QUESTION: Okay... are you willing to meet with him if you are elected president?

MCCAIN: I am willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom, and I will stand up to those that do not.

The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Z...
The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Z...
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- rodnacious I'm a Fan of rodnacious 5 fans permalink
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The real issue here is not whether Zapatero is the President of Spain, but whether McCain can overcome what has become a trait of the Republican Party - those that are not in full agreement with me can go to hell.

Spain removed its troops from the coalition of troops from Europe that were fighting in the Iraq War. McCain seems to have taken offense about that. Does McCain not remember that Bush sort no quorum of his peers when he decided to invade Iraq? How soon he forgets that we need a united front against those who would attack democracy.

If elected, McCain will have to go humbly to the same man to get his support for sanctions against Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 09/21/2008
- charon I'm a Fan of charon 19 fans permalink

I don't think McCain took offense at at Spain, I don't think he was clear about where Spain is, and when asked, "What about Europe?," heard "What about you're up?," being a question about poll numbers. McCain has head squarely up where the sun don't shine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 09/21/2008

I don't think he missheard "you're up" for "Europe." He more likely misheard 'President McCain" when interviewer said "President of Spain," as if interviewer had said , "What about a President McCain," i.e, what would you do in that position. Hence, the "what about me?" response. This may all come down not only to ignorance of geopolitics but to McCain being, literally, hard of hearing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 10/01/2008

McCain is going to piss-off even more people that Bush did! What an A-hole

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 09/21/2008
- diogeron I'm a Fan of diogeron 7 fans permalink

I have read the transcript in both Spanish and English. McCain was dazed and confused and screwed up the answer. Just like Bush, instead of admitting he misunderstood the question, he decided that making foreign policy on the spot (by dissing a NATO ally) was superior to the alternative of telling the truth. This, in concert with the Palin pick, should serve as evidence that he will do and say anything to win an election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 09/21/2008

Sorry but in Spain there is a President (el presidente del gobierno), I'm spanish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 09/20/2008
- rodnacious I'm a Fan of rodnacious 5 fans permalink
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Thanks for telling him!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 09/21/2008

The funny thing is that the journalist was quite ignorant.
Look at the question.
"what about Europe I'm talking about the President of Spain? ".
It does happen spain has no president.
Zapatero is prime minister, not president.
Spain like Britain is a monarchy , where there is a King not a President.
As I wrote Zapatero is Prime Minister.
The interviewer seemed to ignore that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 09/20/2008
- luckyt I'm a Fan of luckyt 6 fans permalink

What you seem to ignore is that McCain Doesn't seem to know as much about foreign policy as he claims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 09/21/2008
- charon I'm a Fan of charon 19 fans permalink

From Wikipedia, re: Spain: "the President of the Government is the head of government in a multi-party system." It says that the prime minister is the president--most likely because he "presides" over the executive branch of government. So Zapatero is both "prime minister" and "president­'."

You, sir, Peter42Y, have just been exposed as an ignoramus. Now go away and take your disinformation with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 09/21/2008

The best line is "What about me what?" in response to "What about Europe?"

McCain apparently heard "What about your rope?" and decided he had enough to hang himself with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 09/19/2008
- charon I'm a Fan of charon 19 fans permalink

McCain is not an expert on anything. He is a great big fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 09/21/2008

McCain's ignorance goes to prove that those who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Even if McCain doesn't know who Zapatero is or if he doesn't have a clue that Spain is in Europe, he still wouldn't like Zapatero as the two men couldn't be more different; Zapatero is pro abortion, gays can now marry and adopt kids, there are more women than men in his cabinet, and Zapatero is an atheist, so to McCain, Bush and all republican right wingers Zapatero might as well be the devil himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 09/19/2008
- aspen I'm a Fan of aspen 4 fans permalink

I have had personal experience with McCain's pettiness causing him not to work with those who don't adhere completely to his world view.

As a member of the League of Women Voters in AZ, I worked to get public financing of state candidates. Our group asked McCain, who was working on campaign finance reform nationally, to endorse our efforts. He would not, saying that he did not want to have anything to do with such "liberal" groups as the League and Common Cause, a coaltion partner.

So much for reaching across the isle to work with others.

He sounds very much like his new best buddy Bush, you are either with them 100 % or you are against them %100.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 09/19/2008

What an ignorant man. perhaps he should look at an atlas.
Snubbing allies....­...... and his camp says it was intentional? On the flip side if he is suffering some sort
of disintegration what a scary thought it would be to have him elected to office only to be declared mentally unfit to run our Nation which leaves Pittbull Prevaricator Palin in charge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 09/19/2008
- charon I'm a Fan of charon 19 fans permalink

When you marry a woman with a hundred million or more dollars, you don't look in atlases. You hire someone else to. Unfortunately McCain paid the price in the interview. Really, if he hadn't married wealth, he would have never made it to the Senate. I've met brighter high school students. His only "skill" is being ruthless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 09/21/2008

I agree with you and if Zapatero has women in his cabinet mostly and for gays and
pro abortion or for abortion, I like this guy. And I know Barack and he will get along
famously!!!!
Yes, his skill (mccain's)is being ruthless and I really think he is losing any smarts
he mightive once had. Does he have the beginning of Altzs? I afraid of him, really.
And Palin, she really scares me as a leader. I don't want her for my President.­????
And money talks, just like it did with Bush.
Cindy is so cold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 09/21/2008

Correction on previous message:

...she doesn't have a foreign "policy" for Spain...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 09/19/2008

Senility has caught up with Mr. McCain. He says He'll be ready for the presidency on day one. He may not even remember his name on day one.

I guess now we must look to President Palin (it's scarey even typing this), though she doesn't have a foreign for Spain because she can't see Spain from Alaska.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 09/19/2008

Don't even say that, she doesn't know anything and she can lie along with the rest of them.
Vote for Barack Obama/Joe Biden '08 I am a Rep. turned Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 09/21/2008
- demfriend I'm a Fan of demfriend 22 fans permalink
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I would guess the "new maverick McCain" is going to screw up and refuse to speak/meet with Spain who is friends with NAATO and the US and deeply insult them. His camp appears to believe this tack is a wiser one than to say "whoopsie messed up" "got him confused with the Castro guy or what was the name of the slime b who I met with in Columbia while shopping away more of the US jobs overseas? Funny thing is while Palin looks out her window at Russia and McCain has actually spent time overseas he has trouble remebering who/what and where he was when he was there, wherever that was. I still would like for a real journalist to stand up and count how many trips McCain and wife have done with/for lobbyists to attempt to send even more jobs overseas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 09/19/2008

He had an SENIOR MOMENT, but the really bummer was his lack of integrity in throwing the entire country of Spain (a good ally of the US) to cover up this!

When the reporter tells him, "But I'm asking about Europe (her accent sounding like "you-rope") and he answers "what about me?" That was as comical a moment as the great 'who's on first" routine.

On the far less comical side, can you imagine this curmudgeon with power to declare war?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 09/19/2008
- DMcD I'm a Fan of DMcD 11 fans permalink
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"Senior Moment" indeed --- perhaps more aptly described as a clear demonstration of "Senilty" ------------- and he is actually being seriously considered for the Presidency ? OMG

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 09/19/2008
- souris I'm a Fan of souris 11 fans permalink
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..........­........I wonder how much the "broom and dustpan" guys [his aides who clean up his constant boo-boos] get paid for all their inventive excuses [that no one with 1/2 a brain believes] for old bumble, stumble McSame, day after day!!! The thought that anyone could even imagine him in the presidency defies reasoning!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 09/19/2008

Spain: Bomb, Bomb, Bomb

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 09/19/2008

So now he's refusing to just not talk to our enemies, but he's refusing to talk to our allies as well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/19/2008

He's just remebering reading "Remember the Maine, Down With Spain" in the newspapers from when he was in High School...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 09/19/2008
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