McCain Meant To Reject Spain Meeting, Adviser Says

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First Posted: 09-18-08 11:18 AM   |   Updated: 10-19-08 05:12 AM

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The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Zapatero.

"The questioner asked several times about Senator McCain's willingness to meet Zapatero (and id'd him in the question so there is no doubt Senator McCain knew exactly to whom the question referred). Senator McCain refused to commit to a White House meeting with President Zapatero in this interview," the Senator's foreign policy adviser Randy Sheunemann told the Washington Post.

Sheunemann's answer is likely to be cause deep ripples within the diplomatic community, as it represents a more aggressive and antagonistic approach than that deployed by the Bush administration. It also promises to be hotly contested, as a review of the McCain interview suggests that the Senator was confused as to who Zapatero actually was.

Appearing on the Miami-based Union Radio, a Spanish language radio station that conducted its interview in English, McCain touted his record "of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us, and standing up to those who are not." This came even after the questioner began that portion of the interview by saying: "let's talk about Spain." Listen:


(Transcript Below)

Certainly, it is possible that McCain misheard the question, though the topic was subsequently brought up three more times. But Scheunemann is now insisting that the Senator meant what he said. As such, it is important to understand how such a take on U.S.-Spain relations compares with current U.S. policy. As the Huffington Post reported Wednesday evening, the Bush administration has made overt gestures in recent years to overcome what once was a frosty relationship -- derived, primarily, from Spain's decision to remove forces from Iraq -- with the Zapatero government.

In July 2007, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice declared that "the United States and Spain are allies. We're in NATO together; we are serving together in Afghanistan. A lot of our conversation today was about that, working together on any number of issues. We've had our differences... [but] I feel that the relationship is warm. We had a good discussion today... We're allies. But when we have differences, we will express them. I think there's no secret that out of the Iraq war, we had a particular difference in the timing of the withdrawal. But that's behind us now, and we need to look forward and look to areas on which we can cooperate and work together."

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In fact, even McCain in the past has been open to closer diplomatic relations with Zapatero and Spain. As John Aravosis of AmericaBlog noted, the Senator gave an interview to El Pais back in April in which he said that the differences between the U.S. and Spain should be swept under the rug.

For what it's worth, Talking Points Memo's Greg Sargent got hold of the interviewer, who says she didn't think McCain was confused about who Zapatero was, but rather was ducking a question about a potential meeting with the prime minister.

"I didn't get the impression that he didn't know who Zapatero was or where Spain was," the reporter, Yoli Cuello, told me. "Honestly, what I thought was that he didn't want to answer the question with a yes or no answer."

Here is the transcript of the radio interview:

QUESTION: Senator, finally, let's talk about Spain. If you're elected president, would you be willing to invite President Jose Luiz Rodriguez Zapatero to the White House to meet with you?

MCCAIN: I would be willing meet, uh, with those leaders who our friends [sic] and want to work with us in a cooperative fashion, and by the way, President Calderon of Mexico is fighting a very very tough fight against the drug cartels. I'm glad we are now working in cooperation with the Mexican government on the Merida plan. I intend to move forward with relations, and invite as many of them as I can, those leaders, to the White House.

QUESTION: Would that invitation be extended to the Zapatero government, to the president itself?

MCCAIN: I don't, you know, honestly I have to look at relations and the situations and the priorities, but I can assure you I will establish closer relations with our friends and I will stand up to those who want to do harm to the United States of America.

QUESTION: So you have to wait and see if he's willing to meet with you, or you'll be able to do it in the White House?

MCCAIN: Well again I don't, all I can tell you is that I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us, and standing up to those who are not, and that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America, and the entire region.

QUESTION: Okay... what about Europe I'm talking about the President of Spain?

MCCAIN: What about me what?

QUESTION: Okay... are you willing to meet with him if you are elected president?

MCCAIN: I am willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom, and I will stand up to those that do not.

The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Z...
The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Z...
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- newdreams I'm a Fan of newdreams 6 fans permalink

I still think McCain's 'advisors' are making McCain's initial insult even murkier. Why would any new world leader reject from the get-go an ally's meeting a few months down the road? Maybe this is just McCain's crazy Kim Jong-il -ESQUE approach to foreign policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 09/19/2008
- entopticon I'm a Fan of entopticon 11 fans permalink
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McCain on Spain fails mainly in his brain.

McCain on the economy fails mainly on taxonomy.

McCain on Iraq fails mainly in the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 09/19/2008
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I am quite sure he had no idea who Zapatero was/is, ( being unfortunately a Spanish word for shoe maker, maybe McCain missed the translation, I give him the benefit of the doubt) just like Bush whom I am sure he had no idea where Iraq or Afganistan were. Does it make any difference politically?, I doubt it, most Americans don't care to learn anything that has nothing to do with celebrities pregnancies and distrubing behavior, morelikely they don't even know who the president of Mexico or the Prime Minister of Canada are and those are our next door neighbors.
This does not in any way jusify McCain's blunder and the Bushe's doctrine "if you are not with US you are our enemy" therefore Zapatero morelikely is in the White House most wanted list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 09/19/2008

I look forward to him doing his best Adm. Stockdale impersonation at the debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 09/19/2008
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...McRain on Spain falls mainly on the Palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 09/19/2008
- bluzz I'm a Fan of bluzz 2 fans permalink

Close...... should be "The Reign of Spain falls mainly on Palin/Mccain" now that she states that she is at the top of the ticket and it rhymes better. Or how 'bout McSPAIN?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 09/19/2008

Get to know Sarah Palin and her fatal flaw; hint, the media and bloggers have not found it yet.

http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=3626&pst=929086

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 09/19/2008
- hellmart I'm a Fan of hellmart 2 fans permalink

McCain confused Zapatero (the prime minister of Spain) with the Zapatistas (Zapatista Army of National Liberation) in Mexico. Maybe he "can see Russia from his house" (I love SNL) since he claims to have foreign policy experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 09/19/2008
- Dr Scott I'm a Fan of Dr Scott 25 fans permalink
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Are you kidding me?! It is clear from the interview transcript that McCain was in a completely different part of the world when asked about Spain. This reminds me of VP Dan Quayle, who, on a trip to Latin America, regretted not studying his Latin more in school. McCain is losing it. Where is all the so-called foreign policy expertise that he is supposed to bring to the office? This is a travesty. I served alongside Spanish troops in Afghanistan in 2002 and found them to be honorable and reliable allies. McCain's statements about our NATO ally are far more damaging (right now) than anything Obama said about pursuing bin Laden into Pakistan. If I were president of the United States, I would fire John McCain from his candidacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 09/19/2008

if Mccain really meant what he said then we are all screwed, if we elect him that is.
see
http://koulflo.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/the-rain-in-spain-hits-mccain-in-the-brain/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 09/19/2008
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Sounds like whenever President McCain (God help us!) makes a speech there will a signer for the hearing impaired and a spokesperson simultaneously spouting what McIIIrd really meant to say.

Obama/Biden08 Nuf Sed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 09/19/2008

Let's give the man a break, he is in his 70's. So what if he forgets a few things like.....His name maybe or an arms deal or maybe more correctly, us, the american people.
Who are the Republican party trying to fool here? God forbid, but whay if he has a heart attact 2 weeks into office? Palin? She may not forget, but it will be her blurred preception of reality that she remembers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 09/19/2008

How much more of this sort of foreign "policy" can we take? Could we please, please, please just have a President who could read maps, practice cool-headedness, and actually manage to advocate for our interests rather than pissing off the world??? Is that too much to ask...out of over 300 million people...to find one who wasn't always embarrassing us??????

If this latest situation isn't enough to convince folks to vote for Obama, then geesh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 09/19/2008
- ChicagoSuz I'm a Fan of ChicagoSuz 16 fans permalink
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Who's on First?

Seriously, this IS scary... somebody in authority has to let Spain know that we don't want to go to war with them anytime soon. They should also calm down Russia & Iran while they're at it.

We need somebody at the UN if Palin goes there to reassure anyone else she accidentally declares war on while she's shmoozing, that she doesn't speak for the U.S.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 09/19/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 48 fans permalink
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Calamity John strikes again!

Truly shocking conduct for a Presidential candidate, diplomacy is not on his to do list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 09/19/2008
- Ymgauna I'm a Fan of Ymgauna 3 fans permalink

This would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. Think about it everyone, this man could possibly be our next Pres. And no, he didn't remember who the Pres. of Spain was. Reason number 999,999 he voted in to early retirement, or retirement anyway, it's not that early. So today I blinked and the President's address to the nation was over....Did he say anything significant for once?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 09/19/2008
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