McCain Meant To Reject Spain Meeting, Adviser Says

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First Posted: 09-18-08 11:18 AM   |   Updated: 10-19-08 05:12 AM

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The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Zapatero.

"The questioner asked several times about Senator McCain's willingness to meet Zapatero (and id'd him in the question so there is no doubt Senator McCain knew exactly to whom the question referred). Senator McCain refused to commit to a White House meeting with President Zapatero in this interview," the Senator's foreign policy adviser Randy Sheunemann told the Washington Post.

Sheunemann's answer is likely to be cause deep ripples within the diplomatic community, as it represents a more aggressive and antagonistic approach than that deployed by the Bush administration. It also promises to be hotly contested, as a review of the McCain interview suggests that the Senator was confused as to who Zapatero actually was.

Appearing on the Miami-based Union Radio, a Spanish language radio station that conducted its interview in English, McCain touted his record "of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us, and standing up to those who are not." This came even after the questioner began that portion of the interview by saying: "let's talk about Spain." Listen:


(Transcript Below)

Certainly, it is possible that McCain misheard the question, though the topic was subsequently brought up three more times. But Scheunemann is now insisting that the Senator meant what he said. As such, it is important to understand how such a take on U.S.-Spain relations compares with current U.S. policy. As the Huffington Post reported Wednesday evening, the Bush administration has made overt gestures in recent years to overcome what once was a frosty relationship -- derived, primarily, from Spain's decision to remove forces from Iraq -- with the Zapatero government.

In July 2007, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice declared that "the United States and Spain are allies. We're in NATO together; we are serving together in Afghanistan. A lot of our conversation today was about that, working together on any number of issues. We've had our differences... [but] I feel that the relationship is warm. We had a good discussion today... We're allies. But when we have differences, we will express them. I think there's no secret that out of the Iraq war, we had a particular difference in the timing of the withdrawal. But that's behind us now, and we need to look forward and look to areas on which we can cooperate and work together."

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In fact, even McCain in the past has been open to closer diplomatic relations with Zapatero and Spain. As John Aravosis of AmericaBlog noted, the Senator gave an interview to El Pais back in April in which he said that the differences between the U.S. and Spain should be swept under the rug.

For what it's worth, Talking Points Memo's Greg Sargent got hold of the interviewer, who says she didn't think McCain was confused about who Zapatero was, but rather was ducking a question about a potential meeting with the prime minister.

"I didn't get the impression that he didn't know who Zapatero was or where Spain was," the reporter, Yoli Cuello, told me. "Honestly, what I thought was that he didn't want to answer the question with a yes or no answer."

Here is the transcript of the radio interview:

QUESTION: Senator, finally, let's talk about Spain. If you're elected president, would you be willing to invite President Jose Luiz Rodriguez Zapatero to the White House to meet with you?

MCCAIN: I would be willing meet, uh, with those leaders who our friends [sic] and want to work with us in a cooperative fashion, and by the way, President Calderon of Mexico is fighting a very very tough fight against the drug cartels. I'm glad we are now working in cooperation with the Mexican government on the Merida plan. I intend to move forward with relations, and invite as many of them as I can, those leaders, to the White House.

QUESTION: Would that invitation be extended to the Zapatero government, to the president itself?

MCCAIN: I don't, you know, honestly I have to look at relations and the situations and the priorities, but I can assure you I will establish closer relations with our friends and I will stand up to those who want to do harm to the United States of America.

QUESTION: So you have to wait and see if he's willing to meet with you, or you'll be able to do it in the White House?

MCCAIN: Well again I don't, all I can tell you is that I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us, and standing up to those who are not, and that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America, and the entire region.

QUESTION: Okay... what about Europe I'm talking about the President of Spain?

MCCAIN: What about me what?

QUESTION: Okay... are you willing to meet with him if you are elected president?

MCCAIN: I am willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom, and I will stand up to those that do not.

The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Z...
The McCain campaign insisted Thursday morning that the Senator meant what he said when, during an interview on Spanish radio, he refused to commit to a meeting with Spain's prime minister, Jose Luis Z...
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- mattamorr I'm a Fan of mattamorr 2 fans permalink

When did Spain become an adversary of the US?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 09/19/2008

When they gave John cold soup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW64Wr47jY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 09/19/2008
- Ymgauna I'm a Fan of Ymgauna 3 fans permalink

When McCain confused them with a Latin American country?!? Huh? What? I'm running for Pres.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 09/19/2008

It would be hysterical if it wasn't so terrifying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 09/19/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 121 fans permalink
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Did you guys hear him talk about the fish near the oil rigs, and how they liked it? The audience just sat and stared at him. It was an awkwardly quiet moment, not good at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 09/19/2008
- Ymgauna I'm a Fan of Ymgauna 3 fans permalink

That was frightening and hilarious all at the same time. Especially creepy when he laughed and called them fishies! And this will endear us to drilling?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 09/19/2008
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Olbermann showed the fish clip. McCain looked positively insane giggling about the fish. It's official now. He's lost it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 AM on 09/19/2008
- rw97 I'm a Fan of rw97 permalink

Further proof that McSame does not have the temperament or intellect to be President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 09/19/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 121 fans permalink
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I agree, I found him to be brash, and unfriendly, and when she said, I mean the President of Spain, his response was very rude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 09/19/2008

"QUESTION: Okay... what about Europe I'm talking about the President of Spain?
MCCAIN: What about me what?"

This is the smoking gun that this interview was not an intentional dissing of Spain, that McCain really did not know what was going on.

The most generous explanation of the interview is that McCain did not understand the reporter and, among other things, thought the "Eu" meant "you." Less generous explanations rely on dimentia and alzheimer's.

The blogosphere has to keep at this until the corporate media is forced to cover this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 09/19/2008

I have been telling my friends and boss that I think McCain suffers from dimentia for the last two or three weeks. I believe it even more based on the events of the last week. I honestly think he has a medical condition that will reveal itself very soon. Hopefully before the election. I would hate to see him and her in office when he suddenly cannot do his job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 09/19/2008
- mattamorr I'm a Fan of mattamorr 2 fans permalink

And they are STILL not allowing the release of his most recent medical records.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 09/19/2008
- brijit I'm a Fan of brijit 7 fans permalink
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He's still fairly good at reading a script but any ad-libbing shows some problems. Often he seems to start a sentence, forgets what he's saying, and ends with any old thing that comes to mind. And that weird, inappropriate cackle.... I've been wondering about his mental fitness for a while now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 AM on 09/19/2008
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This is a perfect preview of what a McCain presidency could bring us: imagine the fallout if he said this AFTER he became president? If that doesn't scare you out of the McCain camp, then nothing will. I have serious doubts as to McCain's ability to function at the level demanded from anyone holding the office of the most powerful leader in the world. There are obviously people in their seventies that have all their "wits" about them (some of my closest relatives, for example) but I don't think McCain is one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 09/19/2008
- Ymgauna I'm a Fan of Ymgauna 3 fans permalink

An even more frightening thought is the fact that Palin could be taking over. If her slips of calling the campaign the Palin/McCain ticket are an indication of anything, we are in trouble if those 2 get in...Palin "You just take your medicine Mr. Pres., the dude and I will take care of everything!" LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 09/19/2008

Hmmmm well Mr. McCain I will take that as a no. You will not be willing to meet with any leader who does not agree with you. Here we go again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 09/19/2008

Agree is a metaphor for not doing what I say you have to, either do what I say or get the hell out..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 09/19/2008
- codwix I'm a Fan of codwix 3 fans permalink

QUESTION: Okay... what about Europe I'm talking about the President of Spain?

MCCAIN: What about me what?

"What about me what?"

bush/palin/mccain 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 09/19/2008
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the sad thing is, if mccain-palin are voted in and god forbid another terrorist attack occurs on US soil, no other countries will have much, if any sympathy for us.

if obama-biden are voted in and god forbid another terrorist attach occurs on US soil, we would have the sympathy and genuine assistance of other countries. i think the most countries in the world would be wiling to rally around us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 09/19/2008

I can't wait for McCain or Palin to be asked about their understanding of the current meltdown in the credit industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 09/19/2008

Just a wild guess, I think he was confused by the name "Zapatero", it probably reminded him of Zapata, and he associated the name with (1(Mexico, and (2)Latin American revolutionaries. As one ages ones mind gets muddled and times, names and places get fuzzy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 09/19/2008

Is that how "W" came up with his fuzzy math?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 09/19/2008

John can't see Spain from any of his 7 homes windows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 09/19/2008

We really need to take a look at that Stepford Wives' technology, since it's being used on Republican candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 09/19/2008

It's the Straight Balk Express!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 09/19/2008

So much for the Straight Talk Express, he can't even answer a simple question and instead confuses himself. Now he thinks Spain is in Mexico. What the frig is going on in his head?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 09/19/2008
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