Wall Street Bounces On Opening After Wednesday's Drop

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First Posted: 09-18-08 09:57 AM   |   Updated: 10-19-08 05:12 AM

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NEW YORK - Wall Street had a stunning late-session turnaround Thursday, shooting higher and hurtling the Dow Jones industrials up more than 400 points after a report that the federal government may create an entity that will take over banks' bad debt.

The report on CNBC said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is considering the formation of an entity like the Resolution Trust Corp. that was set up after the failure of savings and loan banks in the 1980s.

Investors were cheered by the notion of a huge federal intervention like the establishment of RTC to acquire the real estate debt that has hobbled financial institutions and led to the intense volatility in the markets this week.

If there's an RTC-like entity, "it's going to take a lot of the bad debt off the balance sheets of these companies," said Scott Fullman, director of derivatives investment strategy for WJB Capital Group in New York. That would alleviate many of the pressures causing the credit crisis, he said, and open up the credit markets again. But Fullman noted, "the devil's in the details."

"Bear markets are very sensitive to news. And on a scale of 1 to 10, this one is a 13," he said.

In late afternoon trading, the Dow soared 411.66, or 3.88 percent, to 11,021.32.

Broader stock indicators also jumped. The Standard & Poor's 500 index rose 48.85, or 4.22 percent, to 1,205.24, and the Nasdaq composite index advanced 95.07, or 4.53 percent, to 2,193.92.

The report of a broader government bailout proved more reassuring to investors than moves before the opening bell Thursday by the Federal Reserve and other major central banks to inject as much as $180 billion into global money markets. The moves were an attempt to keep the credit crisis from worsening; the Fed added another $55 billion in overnight loans Thursday.

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Grinding gears in the world's credit markets have driven up the cost of borrowing for businesses; banks have become hesitant to make loans even to other banks for fear of what institutions might be hobbled by soured debt. Investors are also contending with fears that more big-name financial companies could falter.

Worry in the markets had led to speculation about the future of such major players as thrift bank Washington Mutual Inc. and investment bank Morgan Stanley. Media reports have been saying that Wells Fargo & Co. and Citigroup Inc. are interested in a possible takeover of Washington Mutual; and a person familiar with the negotiations said Morgan Stanley and Wachovia Corp. are in talks about a possible combination. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks are ongoing.

"We're seeing a tremendous amount of nervousness. That nervousness is leading to volatility," said Anthony Conroy, head trader for BNY ConvergEx Group. He said the markets hadn't seen as much fractiousness since the 1920s.

Advancing issues outnumbered decliners by more than 2 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where volume came to 1.85 billion shares. Trading remained heavy as it has all week amid investors' fears about the well-being of the financial system. But observers said traders were positioning themselves ahead of Friday's "quadruple witching," which marks the simultaneous expiration of four types of options contracts and can exacerbate volatility.

Investors shying from the risks of stocks turned to government-backed debt. On Wednesday, the 3-month Treasury bill -- considered one of the safest short-duration assets -- saw demand surge so high that its yield briefly dipped into negative territory for the first time since 1940. Investors are so focused on parking their money in safe assets that they're willing to take very little return on such investments.

The prices for short-duration Treasurys fell from Wednesday's levels. But the yield on the 3-month T-bill was still extremely low at 0.19 percent -- up from 0.2 percent late Wednesday, but well below its yield of 1.60 percent just a week ago.

Longer-term bond prices fell. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, rose to 3.51 percent from 3.42 percent late Wednesday.

Investors also continued a move into other safe havens. Gold rose again Thursday, up $50.20 to $900.70 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange after posting its largest ever one-day price jump Wednesday.

Oil shot up early in the day, moving back above $100 as investors sought it as another haven. But crude fell back with the market's realization that the financial turmoil will likely exacerbate the drop in demand that has taken oil down sharply from its July record of $147.27 a barrel.

Light, sweet crude on the Nymex rose 72 cents to settle at $97.88 a barrel.

"We are in uncharted territory," said Linda Duessel, the equity market strategist at Federated Investors. "The seriousness and the size of this fallout has been underestimated from the beginning. It's most disconcerting what's going on in the credit market."

Investors remained jittery throughout Thursday's session. The Chicago Board Options Exchange's volatility index, known as the VIX, set a new high for the year in trading Thursday. Often referred to as the "fear index," the VIX at times rose to levels not seen since October 2002. But the VIX retreated after the report a government plan for bad bank debt.

Some market observers say a reading of more than 40 is necessary before the market can begin to excise its fears and carve out a rebound.

Mixed economic readings drew little attention as investors focused on the financials and the credit markets.

The Labor Department reported that initial claims for unemployment benefits rose by 10,000 last week to 455,000, due primarily to Louisiana's job losses from Hurricane Gustav. And the Philadelphia Fed said its regional manufacturing report improved to a 3.8 in September from a negative 12.7 in August. It marks the first positive reading since November.

Among financials, Morgan Stanley rose $2.15, or 10 percent, to $23.90 as the investment bank sought a buyer or cash infusion to shore up its flagging share price. The stock has fallen 38 percent in the past week following Monday's bankruptcy filing at rival Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and a forced sale of Merrill Lynch & Co. to Bank of America Corp.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies rose 40.38, or 5.97 percent, to 716.76.

Overseas, Japan's Nikkei stock average dropped 2.22 percent to its lowest closing level in over three years. Hong Kong's Hang Seng index lost 0.03 percent.

Britain's FTSE 100 fell 0.66 percent, Germany's DAX index rose 0.04 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 1.06 percent.

NEW YORK - Wall Street had a stunning late-session turnaround Thursday, shooting higher and hurtling the Dow Jones industrials up more than 400 points after a report that the federal government may cr...
NEW YORK - Wall Street had a stunning late-session turnaround Thursday, shooting higher and hurtling the Dow Jones industrials up more than 400 points after a report that the federal government may cr...
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- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 57 fans permalink

So let me get this straight;
We the taxpayers get to pick up all the bad debt, while the big financial institutions get to keep all the good investments ...
Wow ... just gotta love that free market economy!
Where do I get a deal like this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 09/18/2008
- robeson I'm a Fan of robeson 30 fans permalink
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You nailed it. S&L redux. Corporate Socialism also known as Fascism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 09/18/2008
- Wiredwilly I'm a Fan of Wiredwilly 23 fans permalink

No, it's worse. We the Taxpayers get to pick up all the bad debt AND pay the $90 Billion dollar bail outs AND pay the Federal Bank INTEREST on both , leaving your children and grandkids to pay it off as impoverished debt slaves. For your kids , if nothing else, get on the phone and DEMAND Congress audit , then eliminate the Federal Reserve and make them pay BACK all the money stolen from the taxpayer & funneled into Private accounts from the inception of the Fed in 1913 until today. Then you can wait for your , not $ 300 rebate, but your $ 300,000 rebate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 09/18/2008
- aBr1t I'm a Fan of aBr1t 13 fans permalink

now your onto it...

key word there INTREST

Dont worry tho FED MARK 2 is on its way

Thats whats going to happen...

Fact is the rules of the game have changed the fed knows it...

you see the cleaver people over in china get away with low cost slave labour

the people @ the fed are very very unhappy bunnies :) what better way to keep the next super power in its place than to devaule the money you ow it LOL

oh and btw this could start a war ... i just hope its not the end time i like being a sinner :(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 09/18/2008

A significant reason that the Dow went up is that they swapped out AIG and replaced it with KRAFT FOODS.. This is an inappropriate switch, because the Dow no longer reflects the same sector ratio: Yesterday, it included 14% Financial sector, today it is only 8% Financial sector. Replacing a risky insurance company with a major foods conglomerate is hardly a responsible swap.

Presto - the Dow looks better. It's not the whole story - but no mention of this in here. Now that Murdoch bought Dow Jones, he can project whatever story he wants. Time for rest of the media to rely on the S&P 500 - it's always been a more accurate big-picture reflection of things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 09/18/2008
- YeahDonkey I'm a Fan of YeahDonkey 7 fans permalink
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400 points and it only took 140 Billion dollars...today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 09/18/2008
- ssgman I'm a Fan of ssgman 8 fans permalink
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Hey, That's only 350 million per point--what a deal!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 09/18/2008
- biglith I'm a Fan of biglith 15 fans permalink

Is a government entity going to be created to take a homeowner's bad debt. How bad debt on a credit card? Oh, yeah the is only for bad debt made by bankers. God Bless America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 09/18/2008
- izAriver I'm a Fan of izAriver 27 fans permalink

The rich don't get richer by helping anyone but themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 09/18/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

Nice. Way to lead.

"The Democratic-controlled Congress, acknowledging that it isn't equipped to lead the way to a solution for the financial crisis and can't agree on a path to follow, is likely to just get out of the way."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aVPBaUbYV_qQ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 09/18/2008
- izAriver I'm a Fan of izAriver 27 fans permalink

That's all we need; more speculation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 09/18/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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yup, yup... speculate away, nothing is going to change!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 09/18/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

Excerpt below from the same article. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are all taking their turns at the microphone blaming the mess on the incompetent President and his administration. So, instead of offering some advice they all take a vacation in hopes that the incompetent President and his administration can resolve????? REALLY??????

"...Lawmakers say they are unlikely to take action before, or to delay, their planned adjournments — Sept. 26 for the House of Representatives, a week later for the Senate. While they haven’t ruled out returning after the Nov. 4 elections, they would rather wait until next year unless Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, who are leading efforts to contain the crisis, call for help.

One reason, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that “no one knows what to do” at the moment..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 09/18/2008
- ssgman I'm a Fan of ssgman 8 fans permalink
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There is no solution for this crisis--at least not a good one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 09/18/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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YES there is, but NO ONE wants to deal wit it!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 09/18/2008
- ssgman I'm a Fan of ssgman 8 fans permalink
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Well, they haven't created this entity yet so hopefully it will not be the monster it needs to be to buy up all this bad debt--or better yet won't get created at all. One thing is for certain, banning short selling is NOT a way to build confidence in a financial market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 09/18/2008
- izAriver I'm a Fan of izAriver 27 fans permalink

Conservatives love disasters because of the money to be made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 09/18/2008
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 56 fans permalink
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"Conservatives love disasters because of the money to be made." - izAriver

conservatives are wimpy compared to

the real neoCON fascists who CREATE disasters to make money (and seize power).

check out Naomi Klein's book, the SHOCK DOCTRINE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 09/18/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

And yet it is Obama's advisors that are hopefull that this will linger long enough to hurt McCain. Sounds like Dem's have an affinity for disasters too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 09/18/2008
- ajax2 I'm a Fan of ajax2 24 fans permalink
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Market rallies over rumor that public will eat the losses while private investors will pick over the remaining assets (S&L Scam). Wall street loves the welfare window.
Meanwhile, Wells Fargo chairman says, 'I feel like a kid in a candy store' if he's talking about fed bail-outs correct. If he's talking about bankrupt companies that can't find cash than the correct phrase is 'dumpster diving'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 09/18/2008
- robeson I'm a Fan of robeson 30 fans permalink
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Big strong men, able to work but go to the welfare window instead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 09/18/2008

Well, there just ain't no socialism like that 'ol time Wall Street socialism. Whould'a thunk all these "masters of the universe" were just a bunch of crybaby, weak-kneed communists too scared to stand on their own and take the consequences like the bold men and women we thought they were? But, hell, I don't mind if my tax dollars go to preserve some bastard's platinum parachute. What the hell else were they going to do with it? /build another bunker buster? Milton Friedman my ass. What trickles down is dog piss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 09/18/2008
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 57 fans permalink

It's why they contribute so heavily to political campaigns; so their friends will bail them out in a crunch.
Hey did you hear how McCain is pointing fingers at Obama for his "close ties" with Fannie Mae?
Let's review: McCain’s confidante and top adviser lobbied several years for Freddie Mac.
His deputy fundraiser lobbied Fannie Mae, and his campaign manager lobbied for both of them.
Even the guy who vetted John McCain's vice presidential options is a former lobbyist for Fannie Mae.
Talk about calling the kettle black ... putting lipstick on a pig ... selling crap and calling it cherry pie ...
...well, you get the drift

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 09/18/2008
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 237 fans permalink
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It's called "profit taking" - it's all the fatcats who still have cash and who are investing for the long term swooping in and buying up stock at 1/2 price or better now that all the lemmings have dumped their stock and run away. Anyone who believes this upward trend is going to be sustained for more than a day or two, give me a call - I've got a bridge to nowhere I can sell you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 09/18/2008
- Diplomacy I'm a Fan of Diplomacy 10 fans permalink

This is the BIGGEST grab in HISTORY. Pension funds of the 'Baby Boomers' have just been HIJACKED!

It's 'Robin Hood', in REVERSE! Rob from the poor to give to the rich. BAIL-OUTS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 09/18/2008

Wall Street Loves Its Big Mommy Government.

And I thought you were manly men.

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 09/18/2008

Did I say the economy was in crisis? I meant it's fundamentally strong! I knew it all along!

-Johnny P0W

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 09/18/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 24 fans permalink
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Sucker's rally!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 09/18/2008
- fumerunner I'm a Fan of fumerunner 4 fans permalink

I love this idea of compartmentalizing debt on a federal level, which, in turn, sent Wall St. soaring late in the day. I realize that the depressed markets are looking for any good news, but this? It's like being in collections and getting bombarded with notices in the mail. And the answer? Not to pay the debt or change things. Nope, the idea is to compartmentalize and quarantine the bad paper. However, putting all the collection notices in a Longaberger basket and burying it out in the backyard doesn't address the debt or the problems that caused the mess in the first place. Sheesh...
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But to all those who are worried about the ups of Wall St., thinking that it's going to diminish the "McCain as out of touch" ideal and the subsequent bounce, don't sweat it. This week, with the venerable investment banks disappearing and the news' sites front page pictures of traders contemplating seppaku is enough for many, many people. Any meteoric bounce will be met in short order with a steeper drop....probably the next day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 09/18/2008
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