Bailout Package: Congress Promises Quick Action

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TOM RAUM and JEANNINE AVERSA | September 19, 2008 11:32 PM EST | AP

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President Bush, flanked by, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, left, and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, delivers a statement about the economy and government efforts to remedy the crisis, Friday, Sept. 19, 2008, in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

WASHINGTON — Struggling to stave off financial catastrophe, the Bush administration on Friday laid out a radical bailout plan with a jawdropping price tag _ a takeover of a half-trillion dollars or more in worthless mortgages and other bad debt held by tottering institutions.

Relieved investors sent stocks soaring on Wall Street and around the globe. The Dow-Jones industrials average rose 368 points after surging 410 points the day before on rumors the federal action was afoot.

A grim-faced President Bush acknowledged risks to taxpayers in what would be the most sweeping government intervention to rescue failing financial institutions since the Great Depression. But he declared, "The risk of not acting would be far higher."

The administration is asking Congress for far-reaching new powers to take over troubled mortgages from banks and other companies, including purchasing sour mortgage-backed securities. Administration officials and congressional leaders are to work out details over the weekend.

Congressional officials said they expected a request for legal authority to buy up the bad loans, at a cost in excess of $500 billion to the government. Democrats were discussing whether to try to attach middle class assistance to the legislation, despite a request from Bush to avoid adding controversial items that could delay action. An expansion of jobless benefits was one possibility.

In other major steps, the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve moved to give money-market mutual funds the same kind of federal protection, at least temporarily, that now applies to savings and checking accounts and certificates of deposit at banks. Money-market accounts sold through retail banks are already FDIC insured.

The spreading global selling panic had started to threaten some money-market funds, usually thought of as rock-solid investments. Administration officials feared a run on these funds, held by millions of Americans.

"Every American should know that the federal government continues to enforce laws and regulations protecting your money," Bush said at the White House. The 75-year-old Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation now insures savings and checking accounts and certificates of deposit up to $100,000.

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Separately, the Securities and Exchange Commission acted to block short-selling in financial securities. That is a trading method that bets the value of stocks will go down. It has been blamed for accelerating the plunge in stock prices of banks and other financial institutions.

"This is a pivotal moment for America's economy," Bush said. "In our nation's history, there have been moments that require us to come together across party lines to address major challenges. This is such a moment."

Congressional leaders of both parties welcomed the administration's bold moves, after a series of ad hoc rescues.

The talk on the presidential campaign trail, barely six weeks before the election, was of bipartisanship, too.

Democrat Barack Obama said it was critical that leaders in both parties work in concert. "Truly, we are all in this together," he said.

GOP presidential nominee John McCain said leaders should put aside partisan differences and "any action should be designed to keep people in their homes and safeguard the life savings of all Americans."

The federal government already has pledged more than $600 billion in the past year to bail out, or help bail out, some of the biggest names in American finance. That includes the rescue of investment bank Bear Stearns in March, the takeover of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac earlier this month and the takeover of the world's largest insurance company, American International Group, just this week.

But the contagion continued to spread, bringing political consensus that drastic and comprehensive federal action was needed.

There are precedents for such a federal takeover.

In the late 1980s, the government created the Resolution Trust Corporation to tackle the savings and loan crisis. It acquired the defaulted mortgages, foreclosed real estate and other assets of nearly a thousand failed S&Ls, restoring order and stability to the system. Resolving that crisis took six years and $125 billion in taxpayer money _ roughly equal to $200 billion in today's dollars.

And there was the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, a Depression-era relief program formed in 1932 by President Hoover that tried to revive the market by giving loans to banks and other businesses.

On Friday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson gave few details about the structure of the new program. Asked about an overall price tag, he said, "hundreds of billions" of dollars.

Congressional leaders said they were ready to move quickly but still needed details of the administration plan. For instance, there was no indication of what the government would get in return from financial companies for the federal assistance.

Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke briefed lawmakers in both parties on the idea by conference call Friday.

In a session with House Democrats, they described a plan where the government would in essence set up reverse auctions, putting up money for a class of distressed assets _ such as loans that are delinquent but not in default _ and financial institutions would compete for how little they would accept for the investments, said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., who participated in the call.

"You give them good cash; they give you the worst of the worst," Sherman said of the plan, which he complained that Bush and his economic advisers were trying to panic lawmakers into rubber-stamping.

Paulson rejected Democrats' calls to include tighter regulations, corporate reforms or limits on executive compensation as part of the measure, Sherman said. "He's doing his best to paint a picture of the sky falling, and then he says, because the sky's falling, you have to do it my way."

Paulson said the new troubled-asset relief program that he wants Congress to enact must be large enough to have the necessary impact while protecting taxpayers as much as possible.

"I am convinced that this bold approach will cost American families far less than the alternative _ a continuing series of financial institution failures and frozen credit markets unable to fund economic expansion," Paulson. "The financial security of all Americans ... depends on our ability to restore our financial institutions to a sound footing."

Bush said simply, "We must act now."

"America's economy is facing unprecedented challenges. We're responding with unprecedented measures," Bush declared, standing in the White House Rose Garden with Paulson, Bernanke and Christopher Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Shortly after his remarks, Bush called congressional leaders with whom the administration will be working on the final plan. He spoke to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio.

The administration wants to see a package emerge from the weekend, to lend calm to Monday morning's market openings, said Keith Hennessey, the director of the president's economic council. The goal is to have something passed by Congress by the end of next week, when lawmakers recess for the elections.

Paulson said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will step up their purchases of mortgage-backed securities to help provide support to the crippled housing market. He also said the Treasury Department will expand a program, announced earlier this month, to buy mortgage-backed securities, which have been badly hurt by the housing and credit crises.

"As we all know, lax lending practices earlier this decade led to irresponsible lending and irresponsible borrowing. This simply put too many families into mortgages they could not afford," Paulson said.

Bush authorized Treasury to tap up to $50 billion from a Depression-era fund to insure the holdings of eligible money-market mutual funds. And the Federal Reserve announced it would expand its emergency lending program to help support the $3.4 trillion in total assets of the funds.

On Wednesday alone, investors had pulled more than $89 billion from money-market funds, according to iMoneyNet, publisher of the newsletter Money Fund Report.

The government's actions could help alleviate the uncertainty that has been sending the markets into tumult over the past week. Lending has come to a virtual standstill in the wake of the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.

European Central Bank, Swiss National Bank and Bank of England also offered up more cash Friday. The three banks put a combined $90 billion into money markets.

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Associated Press writers Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Martin Crutsinger, Andrew Taylor, Marcy Gordon, David Espo and Jim Abrams in Washington and Joe Bel Bruno in New York contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Struggling to stave off financial catastrophe, the Bush administration on Friday laid out a radical bailout plan with a jawdropping price tag _ a takeover of a half-trillion dollars...
WASHINGTON — Struggling to stave off financial catastrophe, the Bush administration on Friday laid out a radical bailout plan with a jawdropping price tag _ a takeover of a half-trillion dollars...
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John McCain on the Senate floor May 26, 2005 (Part II)

"The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator's examination of the company's accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform."
"For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government­-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay. I join as a co-sponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole. I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 09/19/2008
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The people of the United States suffer from periodical financial panics to a degree substantially unknown among the other nations which approach us in financial strength. There is no reason why we should suffer what they escape. It is of profound importance that our financial system should be promptly investigated, and so thoroughly and effectively revised as to make it certain that hereafter our currency will no longer fail at critical times to meet our needs.

-- Theodore Roosevelt 1910

Pre-dates, Fannie and Freddie.

Where do you want the money to come from to bailout WS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 09/19/2008
- DLB I'm a Fan of DLB 41 fans permalink
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Let them fail. Roosevelt was wrong. The beauty of the capitalistic model is that it can fix itself without government intrusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 09/19/2008
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Is there no end to the democrat corruption on this issue? The lies the democrats are spinning speaks speaks volumes!! the democrats filibustered this legisation. Look it up. "Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005."

John McCain on the Senate floor May 26, 2005 (Part I)

"Mr. President,

This week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 09/19/2008
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Who is going to make this loan good ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 09/19/2008
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What does your question have to do with this post?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 09/19/2008
- grizhead63 I'm a Fan of grizhead63 16 fans permalink
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More distortion$ and fabrication$ from the radicals. Why not discuss the Trillion$ in taxpayer dollar$ given away to the fat cat$ today.

This giveaway will have a far worse effect on the great middle class than if all the corruption had crashed down on the heads of the CEO's involved in Wallstreetgate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 09/19/2008
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Now Mc Insane, is now singing about the dollar like Ron Paul!!! LOL

The Mc Cain campaign is in meltdown.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 09/19/2008
- tomfl78 I'm a Fan of tomfl78 2 fans permalink

what college did Jack Cafferty go to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 09/19/2008
- Pigliacci I'm a Fan of Pigliacci 9 fans permalink

Do you support the bailout, and if so, how would you pay for it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 09/19/2008
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Like the war, it's on someone else's tab.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 09/19/2008
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School of hard knocks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 09/19/2008
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what college did you go to ?
what do you do for a living ?
why do you have time to personally ha-rasss everyone here ?

Answers expected or you are being repeatedly fla-gged.

You're anno-ying as all helll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 09/19/2008
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Probably a lot less than Sarah. She attended a half a dozen schools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 09/19/2008
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Cafferty: Wall Street Journal blasts John McCain
Posted: 02:51 PM ET

From CNN's Jack Cafferty


John McCain said 'Raising taxes in a tough economy isn't patriotic.'
When you graduate 894th out of a class of 899, eventually it will show up.

And John McCain's mediocre performance at the Naval Academy is showing up big time this week in his total lack of understanding of the nation's financial crisis.

He told us he didn't know much about the economy… now he's proving it.

So much so that the Wall Street Journal, perhaps America's leading financial publication, is blasting McCain over what its editorial board sees as inaccurate and, quote, "unpresidential" comments about the crisis in America's financial system

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 09/19/2008
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I REFUSE TO DRINK VODKA ,UNDER A MCCAIN/PALIN ADMINISTRATION![ i'll start drinking crown royal]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 09/19/2008

talk about spending... Obama & B iden in the past have been responsible for over $26 BILLION in Pork Barrel spending... in the past 26 years, John McCain has been against it and has not sought after any... what we need is LESS spending in Washington and more stream lined gov't... go thru all of the federal agencies, trim them back and even eliminate some... our gov't needs to SHRINK, not get bigger... Mc is for smaller gov't AND less spending.. this is what our country needs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 09/19/2008
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Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 09/19/2008
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it's ok. at least democrats got something out of the republican plundering of our treasury!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 09/19/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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What would you like to cut?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 09/19/2008
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*crickets*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 09/19/2008
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liseworks do u know what obama will do to small business ?

Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 09/19/2008
Chickenshiit asking questions & not able to discuss intelligently (above) -

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Before I answer that, let me just say that I've noticed a few Repubs here, while so many people are worried sick & hurting, ....& they're showing off that their portfolio has been strengthened in the past 2 days - We Dems don't do that - we basically have empathy for our fellow citizens who are hurting.

Having said that, I have changed my business completely, re-invented it, if you will, so that I can be secure i the future & can leave something for those who need help and / or outlive me -
I fell & hurt my back 2 years ago - had no medical insurance & couldn't (then) afford any -
That was my BIG wake-up call that I had to depend on ME, & not lean on anyone / or the system for help.

I created 2 great e-commerce bus. where the demand is built-in - I am the supply. Easy.
I feel safe, but I don't gloat about it like a Rebub.
I also (now) live on CASH, no CREDIT - & ride my bike as much as I can to save on driving expenses.

But ....why the interest - coming from a good place, an interesting discussion - or are you looking for something to argue about ....? if it's the

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/19/2008
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....if it's the latter & you are not ABLE to say anything intelligent, then I will begin to flag you for har-assment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 09/19/2008
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Rats, I read that wrong, lise.
(:^^^:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 09/19/2008
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I resent your referring to lise as a chickensh*it and as unintelligent, she is neither. Either get some manners or get lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 09/19/2008
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Ab - I'm the one who wrote the Chickenshiiit part -
He asks plenty but doesn't know how to answer -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 09/19/2008
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 645 fans permalink
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republicans makin' us ruskins,now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/19/2008
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Ya, they don't mind socializing Wall Street, but not health care,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 09/19/2008
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They didn't socialize Wall Street, only their losses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 09/19/2008
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Sen McCain & The GOP

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act.

53 Republican Senators plus one Democrat - AYE

44 Democrats no Republicans - NAY

Economist Robert Kuttner has criticized the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act as contributing to the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis. Economists Robert Ekelund and Mark Thornton have made similar criticisms, arguing that while "in a world regulated by a gold standard, 100% reserve banking, and no FDIC deposit insurance" the Financial Services Modernization Act would have made "perfect sense" as a legitimate act of deregulation, under the present fiat monetary system it "amounts to corporate welfare for financial institutions and a moral hazard that will make taxpayers pay dearly".

"John McCain voted FOR the bank laws that led to the current credit crisis. John Mccain's economic advisor (Gramm) WROTE the law. 53 Republicans voted YES to the law. When you're in danger of losing your house & savings, can you take a chance on more of the same from those who wrecked out economy?"

"They, (Republicans) have socialized risk.

Financial reward has always been associated with assumption of risk, but what the republicans have managed to do is divorce the two and in doing so they have managed to hold the rewards for themselves while transfering the risk to all of us.

The Senate vote

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00105

Banking Problem Fixer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ2eayWR3dU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 09/19/2008
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It is always a given that liberals will be very selective of what information they wish to present. You withheld quite a bit of information about the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act. Here are the facts:

"The bills were passed by a 54-44 vote along party lines with Republican support in the Senate and by a 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives. Nov 4, 1999. After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90-8-1 and in the House: 362-57-15. This veto proof legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 09/19/2008
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bailout comes in the form of a loan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 09/19/2008
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please list your collateral

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 09/19/2008
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A pen, a rubberband, chewing-gum and a stone...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/19/2008

I see you have no intelligent comeback about the birth certificate. So you start misdirection -- a classic republican tactic.

Be a man/woman and just admit you screwed up asking the question about the birth certificate. Try to regain a little dignity and respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 09/19/2008

I see you have no intelligent comeback about the birth certificate. So you start misdirection -- a classic republican tactic.

Be a man/woman and just admit you scr-ew-ed up asking the question about the birth certificate. Try to regain a little dignity and respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 09/19/2008
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Worlds Financial Instututions

IN GOLD WE TRUST

Re: US Government to secure mortgage market with gold reserves

US Government to secure mortgage market with gold reserves
Lee Jones - 19-Sep-2008
The U.S. Treasury Department has promised “hundreds of billions” to save the US markets using its own gold reserves.

http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=173...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/19/2008
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Who is going to make this loan good Tom?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/19/2008
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suzyhein maybe you did not work hard enough

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 09/19/2008
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Work hard at what? If you have two brain cells to rub together, I suggest that you use them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 09/19/2008
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tomfuckstick. gofuckyourself, your mother is tired of you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/19/2008
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Who would you have pay for this bailout Tom?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/19/2008
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proof of what happens when ur brain only works on one side at a time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 09/19/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 143 fans permalink
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If you don't stop with your sick assessment of everyone, you will be reported -

PEOPLE : THIS NUTT IS ON THE BRINK OF NEEDING TO BE REPORTED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 09/19/2008
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when is obama going to show his birth certificate???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 09/19/2008
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Tom, where do you want the money to come from for the bailout?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 09/19/2008
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Do you support the bailout, and if so, how would you pay for it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 09/19/2008
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when are you going to either engage in smart defense of your horrible party or ....leave us alone ??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 09/19/2008
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when your mother quits whining to us that you can't satisfy her in bed anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 09/19/2008
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he did already, he had to have it to get in the senate. now,how are you going to pay for this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 09/19/2008
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we the people ,have been bent over, [without even the courtesy of a 'reach-around'], and had it stuck in our 'rears'. this administration, and any others like it, should never be let anywhere near our government institutions ever again. GOP! please dissolve your party and rejoin your fellow americans in putting our 'country first'!


obama/biden '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 09/19/2008
- Pigliacci I'm a Fan of Pigliacci 9 fans permalink

You mean "in arrears"...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 09/19/2008
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ya! "in arrears"! thx!

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