Ike Uncovers Wreck Said To Be A Civil War Schooner On Alabama Coast

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September 19, 2008 11:40 PM EST | AP

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People look over the wreck of a wooden ship uncovered by Hurricane Ike on a beach on Fort Morgan Road in Fort Morgan, Ala., Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2008. Archeologists say the wreck could be that of a two-masted Civil War schooner that ran aground in 1862 or another ship from some 70 years later. The wreck had already been partially uncovered when Hurricane Camille cleared away sand in 1969. Researchers at the time identified it as the Monticello, a battleship that partially burned when it crashed trying to get past the U.S. Navy and into Mobile Bay during the Civil War. (AP Photo/Press-Register, Guy Busby)

FORT MORGAN, Ala. — When the waves from Hurricane Ike receded, they left behind a mystery _ a ragged shipwreck that archeologists say could be a two-masted Civil War schooner that ran aground in 1862 or another ship from some 70 years later. The wreck, about six miles from Fort Morgan, had already been partially uncovered when Hurricane Camille cleared away sand in 1969.

Researchers at the time identified it as the Monticello, a battleship that partially burned when it crashed trying to get past the U.S. Navy and into Mobile Bay during the Civil War.

After examining photos of the wreck post-Ike, Museum of Mobile marine archaeologist Shea McLean agreed it is likely the Monticello, which ran aground in 1862 after sailing from Havana, according to Navy records.

"Based on what we know of ships lost in that area and what I've seen, the Monticello is by far the most likely candidate," McLean said. "You can never be 100 percent certain unless you find the bell with 'Monticello' on it, but this definitely fits."

Other clues indicate it could be an early 20th century schooner that ran aground on the Alabama coast in 1933.

The wrecked ship is 136.9 feet long and 25 feet wide, according to Mike Bailey, site curator at Fort Morgan, who examined it this week. The Monticello was listed in shipping records as 136 feet long, McLean told the Press-Register of Mobile.

But Bailey said a 2000 report by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers determined the remains were the schooner Rachel, built at Moss Point, Miss., in 1919 and wrecked near Fort Morgan in 1933.

He said the wreckage appears to have components, such as steel cables, that would point to the Rachel rather than an 1860s schooner.

Glenn Forest, another archaeologist who examined the wreck, said a full identification would require an excavation.

"It's a valuable artifact," he said. "They need to get this thing inside before it falls apart or another storm comes along and sends it through those houses there like a bowling ball."

Meanwhile, curious beach-goers have been drawn to the remains of the wooden hull filled with rusted iron fittings. Fort Morgan was used by Confederate soldiers as Union forces attacked in 1864 during the Battle of Mobile Bay.

"It's interesting, I can tell you that," said Terri Williams. "I've lived down here most of my life and I've never seen anything like this, and it's been right here."

FORT MORGAN, Ala. — When the waves from Hurricane Ike receded, they left behind a mystery _ a ragged shipwreck that archeologists say could be a two-masted Civil War schooner that ran aground in...
FORT MORGAN, Ala. — When the waves from Hurricane Ike receded, they left behind a mystery _ a ragged shipwreck that archeologists say could be a two-masted Civil War schooner that ran aground in...
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- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 103 fans permalink
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Hurricane Hazel in 1955 uncovered an 1812 war schooner at Wasaga beach in Lake Huron, which had run aground and burned to the waterline in what seems to have been a similar manner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 09/20/2008
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We have had some old ships, cannons, and very old pieces of dishes show up on the coast of Oregon. I love this kind of stuff - you never know what is under the sand. I hope they can save what is left of the schooner!!

Very cool find.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 09/19/2008
- sueno I'm a Fan of sueno 13 fans permalink

Way cool...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 09/19/2008

Interesting!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 09/19/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

Whatever it turns out to be it is not a "Battleship" under any definition of that word.

A Battleship would be a ship of the line. This, if it is a Civil War ship would probably be a blockade runner. Which were built for speed not for fighting.

The last thing it would ever want is a "battle."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 09/19/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 612 fans permalink
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"A Battleship would be a ship of the line."

Or an Ironclad, in the Civil War...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 09/19/2008
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Very cool!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 09/19/2008
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Didn't John McSame serve on this ship right after he got out of the Naval Academy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 09/19/2008
- bmermaid I'm a Fan of bmermaid 19 fans permalink
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That would explain why it wrecked. He was in the bottom 1% of his class, you know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 09/19/2008
- 70sFez I'm a Fan of 70sFez 22 fans permalink
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No, I think he built the ship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 09/19/2008
- CintiBlue I'm a Fan of CintiBlue 54 fans permalink

It's got his signature that other military equipment carried.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 09/19/2008
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I assume he went directly to flight school after graduation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 09/19/2008

Zepplin Air Ship School

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 09/20/2008

Actually, if they want to verify this was a confederate ship from the civil war, they just have to check for democratic voter registration cards since the democratic party was the party of slavery. So many people have been hoodwinked by their leaders to forget about that through the years. They are the true spin-meisters to make people beleive they have gone from the party of slavery to the party for the minorities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 09/20/2008
- wretch I'm a Fan of wretch 2 fans permalink

are you aware of how ridiculous you sound?

McCain is OOOOOLD. and clueless. His joke was funny, yours is just not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 09/20/2008
- itsme23 I'm a Fan of itsme23 9 fans permalink

I just heard something on the radio that would leave me to take humbridge with this story. I heard a woman in HOUSTON who says please alert the media to what is REALLY going on down here. There is NO GAS, NO WATER, NO FOOD because there are no OPEN STORES..in other words NO FEMA! Fema is only helping in more affluent areas of Texas. those with out the means are left litterally to STARVE just like KATRINA! Once again the republicans are on tv giving themselves slaps on the back while American Citizens are left for a whole week to live like they are in a third world country....it's DISGUSTING!!! They are NOT reporting this on the MSM so it's up to us to send help to the people who need it most! People in need of basic nessities of human life can't get it. There is no gas station available so they can't leave and FEMA has not shown it's face anywhere for them. If they arrive on foot to FEMA locations, they are turned away because it's not fair to the people in CARS! We have to help our fellow citizens..NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 09/19/2008
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I am sure he Wal-MArt trucks will start rolling real soon now. After all, they saved New Orleans, didn't they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 09/19/2008
- MsLiz I'm a Fan of MsLiz 113 fans permalink
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That's bad. It's a bad week to try to get media attention. Someone tell Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 09/19/2008
- vietveter I'm a Fan of vietveter 23 fans permalink

I sure hope that the federal government doesn't spend

any of my tax money on this project. We need to save it

all for a good cause, like bailing out Wall street.

Or a good war, or oil depletion allowance

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 09/19/2008
- max I'm a Fan of max 13 fans permalink
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MCCAIN WAS THE CAPTAIN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 09/19/2008
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Actually he was still a Lieutenant (junior grade) at the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 09/19/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 612 fans permalink
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Nah, he's not **THAT** old. He was just an Ensign... ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 09/19/2008
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