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Lehrer Discusses Contours Of Presidential Debate

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September 19, 2008 12:08 PM


Jim Lehrer, the venerable host of NewsHour fame, has moderated ten presidential debates in his lifetime. But as he approaches his responsibilities as the host of the first go-around between Barack Obama and John McCain, his nerves aren't any calmer than when he first did this.

"If you screw this thing up it isn't like a television program where you can say, "Oh sorry, I'll do better tomorrow," Lehrer told the Huffington Post. "This has the potential for being one of the most exhilarating experiences a person can have and I've had it at times. But it also has the potential for being a negative experience too if you blow it because if you make a mistake as a moderator in one of these debates it could affect who becomes the next president of the United States."

Known for his steady and substantive approach towards questioning, Lehrer promised no "gotcha" moments in the September 26 debate between the two presidential candidates at the University of Mississippi. He also declined to say whether a politician's personal life should or would be fair game: "You will have to wait and see. Each one of these things has a life of its own and I'm a long way from a decision about what I'm going to ask exactly." And he framed his role as one of political tour guide rather than referee. For instance, when asked whether it was the moderator's responsibility to call a candidate on a blatant lie, Lehrer said no.

"It is the responsibility of the other candidates," he said. "It is not an interview. This is not a journalism exercise, this is a debate exercise. And the moderator is there to enforce the rules. And to ask questions obviously. But it is up to the - the whole point of the exercise is to get the candidates to respond and do the talking."

That's about the extent of insight he offered into how that affair - which will be themed on foreign policy and national security - will proceed. The construct of this debate will be different than any Lehrer has operated. The candidates will have more liberty to speak at length - segments could run up to nine and a half minutes - and, for the first time, address one another. As such, he predicted that Obama and McCain's answers wouldn't simply be extensions of their stump speeches.

"It is like a football game," he said. "Everybody has a game plan until they kick off and then things happen. This is a high stakes debate, obviously. They all are. And this one is as high as any of them. Things are going to happen and I have no idea what they are going to be. My job is to cope and to make sure that the candidates are protected from a fairness standpoint."

But the new format also added an additional sense of angst to the moderator post. The NewsHour host recalled how in 1988 he cut off then-presidential candidate George H.W. Bush during his debate with Michael Dukakis before the allotted time was finished. Immediately, he felt a sense of dread that his error, in some sort of political ripple effect, would alter the course of the election. "I had to apologize to him," Lehrer said. "It was embarrassing."

Then there was the 2000 Al Gore-George W. Bush debate in which the vice president notoriously grimaced and sighed his way through his opposition's answers. Lehrer left that contest thinking Gore had clearly scored a victory, only to discover that what he had witnessed was far different from the rest of the audience.

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"I had decided that I would always look at who was speaking and not who was listening. It was only when the debate was over and I was walking out of the debate hall and one of my daughters said: 'Oh dad, that was interesting what Gore did and all that grimacing and stuff,'" he recalled. "I didn't know, I had heard a little bit but I had not paid any attention to it. And that was what everyone was talking about afterward."

Certainly, regarding these types of memorable mistakes, the upcoming debate is unlikely to witness history repeat itself. But that's about all Lehrer is sure of. He has been prepping for months, bouncing ideas for questions, follow-ups and lines of inquiry in his head.

"Fortunately, I haven't been dropped out of space," he says, "I've been following this election for three years and these are the type of issues... we've been dealing with on the NewsHour since day one. It isn't about nuclear fusion."

And while the anxiety will always be there - it comes with the responsibility - he sees this debate as being a memorable, perhaps history-altering, affair.

"I'm going to have earned my zero pay after it's done," he says.

Jim Lehrer, the venerable host of NewsHour fame, has moderated ten presidential debates in his lifetime. But as he approaches his responsibilities as the host of the first go-around between Barack Oba...
Jim Lehrer, the venerable host of NewsHour fame, has moderated ten presidential debates in his lifetime. But as he approaches his responsibilities as the host of the first go-around between Barack Oba...
 
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I believe this debate is much more Obama's to win or lose. If he comes out loose, yet sharp, clear about his positions, funny, folksy, and sensible on the answers, he has a good shot of closing the sale with the undecided. He will be pinned on the Iraq surge and his long winded responses on that topic are a definite turn off. If the first 30 minutes go well, he could have a weak spell, and should still close strongly.
McCain has a lot more contradictions to explain, and he could be encouraged to lose his cool. Fingers crossed for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 09/21/2008
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lehrer is a shill and his connections to the boosh crime family need to be examined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 09/21/2008

I would love to see a panel of fact checkers sitting on stage with the candidates with their laptops going. Every time one of them lies, a buzzer goes off, and the liar has to retract and restate. The one with less buzzes wins the 'debate' and oodles of lovely parting gifts, while the loser is boo'ed off the stage while Lehrer sings: "liar, liar, pants on fire!"

Now that would really engage the audience!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 09/21/2008

Very funny!! A part of me would love to see that happen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 09/21/2008

I disagree - Jim Lehrer pulled a fast one on Al Gore in the 2nd debate against George W in 2000 - and is quite capable of doing it again:

I 'm not sure if anyone remembers - but the last question he asked George W - was as follows - do you think your opponent has a history of exaggerating his record - and George W went on and on about he thought it was wrong of Gore to lie about his record - Lehrer did not give Gore an opportunity for rebuttal - making it seem as though that charge was true.

Please refresh your memories:

http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2000b.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 09/20/2008

The NY Times is reporting that the VP Debate's format has been made less candidate interactive at the insistence of the McCain campaign.
All of the MSM should protest this because it is an obvious ploy to shield one of the candidates and we all know which one that is.
Did the Obama camp not have any right to say no and at least get some part of it open to back and forth exchanges between the participants?
This is not right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 09/20/2008
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EXACTLY!! I DO NOT LIKE THIS FORMAT!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 09/20/2008
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We all know what will happen if the VP Debate is made to be more "interactive."

Trig will have a life-threatening medical emergency 2 hours before the scheduled start time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 09/21/2008

Jim Lehrer is a CELEBRITY JOURNALIST even though he's on PBS instead of cable or 1 of the big 3 commercial networks.

CELEBRITY JOURNALISTS like Lehrer, Gwen Ifill, Tom Brokaw, and Bob Schieffer have no business whatsoever asking questions at a presidential debate. They know as little about economics, healthcare, energy policy, and foreign policy as Britney Spears, and Paris Hilton.

Presidential debate questioners should consist of scholars and researchers from liberal and conservative think tanks and foundations like the Brookings Institution, American Enterprise Institute, Center for American Progress, New America Foundation, Council on Foreign Relations, Center for Strategic and Intnatl Studies, etc

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 09/20/2008
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What?! That would encourage Americans to think for themselves ... !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 09/20/2008

I hope Obama is working on his one-liners. He CANNOT talk like a professor. He has to talk in a more colloquial way. When you look at the debates between Bush & Gore, that's exactly what Bush did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 09/20/2008

Unfortunately, even SHAMEFULLY "cincyr" is absolutely right........ Obama is actually EXCELLENT at explaining and contrasting his positions with those of his opponents.........he is NOT good at canned answers and Bumper-Sticker speak.

I still feel RELATIVELY confident about the GE.....but if things go south in November......we may look back on Axelrod/Obama's TACTICAL decision to "sit on a lead" and decline to accept McCain's offer of NUMEROUS town-hall meetings as THE major mistake of the campaign.

(Unless you're inclined to see THAT as the failure to pick Hillary for VP, as a fair number of people do)

Anyone who has lived through the last 25 years or so can tell you that we seldom get the leaders we NEED.....but rather we get the ones we DESERVE.

It's never been more apparent than it is right now:...
"If you think education is expensive....try IGNORANCE"

Regards
tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 09/20/2008
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I disagree. Avoiding the "NUMEROUS townhall meetings" was smart. McCain appears to excel at that format because he can take any question and make a beeline to Noun, Verb, POW with little fear that an "ordinary citizen" will call him out for not answering the question. Remember: until very recently most of the MSM really didn't press McCain for specificity because "they knew his inner Maverick."

Right after a long and bruising Primary was not the time to engage in (for the sake of argument) 10 townhall meetings when McCain would simply strike the hero pose and declare that he will not (fill in the blank) after Obama thoughtfully tackled the meat of the question asked.

I think both Obama and his braintrust knew it would take him weeks to "make his swing more compact." It's not easy to give simple but meaningful soundbites to any question if you are inclined to assume that the world is complicated and there are no simple answers to any question. What worked well in the relatively wonky world of inter-partisan debate (I readily concede that there is a desire for substance among some Conservatives as well) is disaster in the GE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 09/21/2008

"The candidates will have more liberty to speak at length - segments could run up to nine and a half minutes - and, for the first time, address one another."

I think that's the most important aspect- the debates thus far have disadvantaged Obama, because his positions are comprehensive and are not designed to be reduced to sound-bites. I'm looking forward to McCain's incoherent logic and circular talk being called out and spontaneously exposed. Teflon may be a non-stick coating, but it can't take abrasion. Barack needs to apply some pressure to McCain's dirty dishes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 09/20/2008

"Teflon may be a non-stick coating,....but it can't take abrasion"

Just a STELLAR metaphor.

I hope " ErikW65" won't object if I plagarize that in conversation some.

Regards
tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 09/20/2008

Thanks, Tommy. I'm just hoping someone from the Obama Camp gets my meaning...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 09/21/2008

Robert McNeil. was more Liberal. Jim Lehrer is more Conservative, so -- as reflected in the PBS news program post McNeil's retirement -- expect a slight bias toward McCain, who is also the same age/generation and shares the same default perspective as Lehrer.

Lehrer is 74 years old...and, has not groomed someone to follow him and refused to retire as his parter, McNeill did.

McCain and Lehrer are nearly the same age group -- and hanging in their respective careers probably long past a time of relevance. There has been virtually NO CHANGE in ten years - in the format, set decoration, analysts, etc. The Internet revolution has been in full swing for a decade -- but you would never know it via Lehrer's nightly program -- when it wouldn't take much to engage the audience in a more relevant and meaningful way. Gwen Ifill's weekly program is more current.

Lehrer long ago should have been grooming and mentoring a fresher and more youthful individual to pass the baton to instead of the time warp. Lehrer will be partial to a man like himself -- John McCain. Together they share a certain view about Obama's "youth."

With that said, Lehrer will try to do a quality job, and is reliable. Obama must show his command of the issues and be calm and collected as McCain tries to bait him -- w/Lehrer allowing him some license to do so -- to the young critter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Lehrer

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 09/20/2008
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Very interesting comment.

I find Ifill a complete partisan. For an example calling Mrs. McCain a first lady at the RNC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 09/20/2008

Couldn't disagree more with the comments of "renetam"...above.....

Judy Woodruff, Gwen Ifill, and PARTICULARLY Ray Suarez and Margaret Warner are all credible understudies to to Jim Leherer and FAR FAR outshine anyone on network or cable television in terms of intelligence, depth and preparedness.

(So called "journalists' on the networks apparently believe that "doing their homework" mostly involves clothing and hairstyles.)

PBS was THE pioneer in linkage between the net and their news broadcasts. Indeed, had I counted on the cable and broadcast networks to apprise me of the internent revolution.......I would not have any Idea how to turn my PC on.
For any person interviewed on "The News Hour", there is a complete and extended version of their remaks available at PBS. org/News Hour contemporaneously, as well as links to related stories............and this has been true for OVER the decade cited.

Occasionally, just as an excersise, I will watch an MSM story after watching the NEWS HOUR. Almost invariably, I come away shaking my head, and thinking "without PBS I wouldn't have the slightest grasp of any but the most surface details of current affairs"

I urge "renatam" to ignore set design, music, and format.....put aside his/her age bias and take another look at "The News Hour".....prefrebly WHILE online.

It takes a free press AND an informed citizenry to to make our system's promise WORK.
Unfortunately, we usually get NOT the leaders we need.....but the ones we DESERVE.
regards
tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 09/20/2008
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By being the most prominent of moderators for presidential debates, Jim Lehrer tacitly approves the 2 party lock on power. Before 1988's election, presidential debates were sponsored by The League of Women Voters, and the questioners varied (usually there were three reporters forming a panel, which made follow-up questions to weak answers easier).

Then the 2 major parties colluded to take control of the debates, and to make it all but impossible for a third party to participate. The format was the other major change. Now only one moderator would ask questions (or lob nerf balls). The favorite of both parties: Jim Lehrer. Because "when asked whether it was the moderator's responsibility to call a candidate on a blatant lie, Lehrer said no." Bush was allowed to call Gore's economic plan "Fuzzy Math" countless times in 2000 by Lehrer, giving legitimacy to the plan that lead directly to our current fiscal meltdown.

..from Wikipedia:
On October 2, 1988, the league's trustees voted unanimously to pull out of the debates, issuing this press release:
"The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates ... because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 09/20/2008

If McCain tries to pull the same old stump speech stuff like he did at the saddleback forum, which by the way was not a debate....supposedly a "conversationally" type forum..then he will be up the creek and look like the old fool he is...it will not work...I can see him trying to tell his lame jokes he always interjecting in his infamous townhall meetings, which if anyone would take the time to watch and listen are a complete joke...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 09/20/2008

I've been watching McNiel Lehrer for decades now....there is no one on the planet I trust more than Jim Lehrer to moderate the presidential debates (with the possible exception of Bill Moyers.....but I guess that would be too much too ask of the red team to accept....given Bill's well known progressive leanings)

In all the time I've been watching Lehrer,...he's never given any indication as to his own political leanings (the mark of a professional journalist.....you remember those.....well, vaguely)

If youve been watching "The News Hour" at all in the last few years.....you probably have seen what's known as "the honor roll" at the end of the progam, when, in silence, the photographs of Americans killed in action are presented along with age, hometown, and rank.

In 2006, when it seemed there were a dozen or more every other night, I almost thought I detected a slight twitch of disbelief on Ex-Marine Lehrer's face when one administration flunky or another asserted that victory is at hand (I include Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld in this "flunky" category)....
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At any rate.....Lehrer exemplifies a stadard of integrity and professionalism that is largely a thing of the past in Today's tabloid-esque news business. The country's in good hands with Lehrer moderating.
tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 09/20/2008

"And he framed his role as one of political tour guide rather than referee. For instance, when asked whether it was the moderator's responsibility to call a candidate on a blatant lie, Lehrer said no."

Wow, I'm very disappointed in Lehrer. If he wants to be a good "tour guide" then he has to make sure his "tourists" get the true facts about what they're seeing. If he allows lies, deceptions and distortions to pass in the debate, then he's no tour guide --- he's merely the ringmaster at a circus of illusions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 09/20/2008

The so-called "debates" have zero credibility without the participation of Ralph Nader and other Third Party candidates. Wise up, America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 09/20/2008
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Ralph Nader, never heard of him... However, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravell all received thousands of votes. In the case of Paul, however, Fox News excluded him after he placed 2nd in Iowa. They preferred Rudy Giuliani, who finished next to last.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 09/20/2008

Remember Bernard Shaw, the black meat puppet for CNN with his opening question to Dukakis:" If your wife was raped by Willie Horton ..."
One of the most embarassing journalistic moments in the history of televised Presidential debates.
Nothing's changed, in fact it's worse. The network and cable news media today continue to pick up the story line of the vile racist innuendoes from both campaigns. It's disturbing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 09/20/2008

"mediahack"

I DO remember that.... and it most certainly WAS shameful....and brings up a point in Lehrer's favor...

Bernard Shaw was not all that bad as TV journalists go.....but in the hot glare of a high-profile debate....the impulsively self-aggrandizing SUPER-egos of the Cable and Network "anchors" can and DO surface.

Another, more recent example, IMO,.... was the performance of the late Tim Russert,.... (generally one of the better journalists on TV) in the "sit down" Obama/Clinton debate just before...I believe it was Ohio.

Some thought he was hard on Hillary, others, Obama,...but by MY lights he was rude to both and made HIMSELF too much the story.

Lehrer has nothing to prove, or more importantly, to SELL, ...needs no EGO boosting...and can be counted on to be a MODERATE (and impartial) moderator.

Great point
Regads
tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 09/20/2008
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