Democrats: "We Will Not Simply Hand Over A $700 Billion Blank Check To Wall St"

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First Posted: 09-21-08 09:51 AM   |   Updated: 10-22-08 05:12 AM

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***UPDATE*** 11:11PM Democrats have begun to push back on the bailout plan offered by the Bush Administration, specifically with legislation that would cut the salaries of the CEO's whose firms participate in the bailout and by adding more oversight provisions. The Washington Post reports:

Congressional Democrats considering the Bush administration's emergency plan to shore up the U.S. financial system yesterday countered with their own demands, presenting draft legislation giving the government power to cut salaries of chief executives at firms that participate in the bailout and slash severance packages for their top management...


...Democrats sought to add oversight provisions and taxpayer protections to the proposal, which amounts to the largest government intervention in the private markets since the Great Depression. "We will not simply hand over a $700 billion blank check to Wall Street," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement.

Under the proposal drafted by House Democrats, the Treasury would be required to force faltering firms that want to sell their troubled assets to the government to "meet appropriate standards for executive compensation." Those standards would include a ban on incentives that encourage chief executives to take "inappropriate or excessive" risks, a mechanism to rescind bonuses paid for earnings that never materialize and limits on severance pay.


Obama issued a "statement of principles" regarding the bailout plan. One principle it emphasized was that the plan cannot bail out Wall St. and ignore the troubles on Main St.:

"We must work quickly in a bipartisan fashion to resolve this crisis and restore our financial sector so capital is flowing again and we can avert an even broader economic catastrophe. We also should recognize that economic recovery requires that we act, not just to address the crisis on Wall Street, but also the crisis on Main Street and around kitchen tables across America...


...Taxpayers should be protected. This should not be a handout to Wall Street. It should be structured in a way that maximizes the ability of taxpayers to recoup their investment. Going forward, we need to make sure that the institutions that benefit from financial insurance also bear the cost of that insurance.

Help homeowners stay in their homes. This crisis started with homeowners and they bear the brunt of the nearly unprecedented collapse in housing prices. We cannot have a plan for Wall Street banks that does not help homeowners stay in their homes and help distressed communities.


The AP reports that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Sunday that the government should resist including households in its bailout plan despite calls from Democrats to do so:

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Sunday that the nation's credit markets remain frozen and Congress must move quickly to pass a $700 billion bailout package for financial firms. But key Democrats said the legislation needs changes to provide better protections for taxpayers and homeowners in danger of losing their homes.

"The credit markets are still very fragile right now and frozen," Paulson said in an interview on NBC's Meet the Press. "We need to deal with this and deal with it quickly."[...]

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Democrats said they understood the need for urgency but insisted that the measure needed to provide help for homeowners threatened with losing their homes, perhaps by changes in bankruptcy laws to allow for mortgages to be modified, and by capping pay and benefit packages for executives at the huge Wall Street firms that will be selling their bad debt to the government.

"I don't want the American taxpayer to get this bad debt and then the guy (whose company once held the bad loans) gets millions of dollars on his way out the door," said House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass.

Paulson and President Bush have argued that the alternative would be credit markets that remain frozen, meaning that businesses will fail because they can't get the loans they need to operate and the economy will grind to a halt because consumers, who account for two-thirds of economic activity, won't be able to get the credit they need to keep spending.

At a rally in Charlotte Sunday Obama spoke about how he believed the government needed to deal with the financial crisis when it comes to households:

We must work quickly in a bipartisan fashion to resolve this crisis to avert an even broader economic catastrophe. But Washington also has to recognize that economic recovery requires that we act, not just to address the crisis on Wall Street, but also the crisis on Main Street and around kitchen tables across America.

Read more of Obama's remarks.

***UPDATE*** 11:11PM Democrats have begun to push back on the bailout plan offered by the Bush Administration, specifically with legislation that would cut the salaries of the CEO's whose firms partic...
***UPDATE*** 11:11PM Democrats have begun to push back on the bailout plan offered by the Bush Administration, specifically with legislation that would cut the salaries of the CEO's whose firms partic...
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- Hufferton I'm a Fan of Hufferton 6 fans permalink

To Congress: Please do not trust Mr. Paulson, an *appointed* official.

We do not want to hear *prezudunce bush* say another "heckuva job Brownie" type statement to Paulson because this is our total economic structure the Congress is "playing the Monopoly game with". We citizens are the play pieces (pawns) and Paulson won't be playing the game with *play* money.

Recall that Mr. Chertoff, Homeland Security Secretary, another *appointed* official waived 36 Federal Laws to build the needless, ineffective Border Wall (fence) that will devastate wildlife and ecosystems by ignoring decades of environmental laws and policies. Private property is also being taken against the property owners’ acceptance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 09/22/2008
- Shadow08 I'm a Fan of Shadow08 235 fans permalink
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I just heard them say on MSNBC that Bush has warned Democrats not to include other things in this bill.

Has this clown got nerve or what?

He gets appointed to the presidency, ruins everything, and now he think anyone wants to hear more of his "warnings"? Republicans. Unbelievable!

We have to vote all of these repub's out.

I also watched a few moments of Tucker Bounds (he's pretty hard to take) and he again refused to answer questions, all he did was blame Barack.

When you have no facts, no solutions, old Neo-Con ideas and agendas, all you can do is feign anger, show outrage and Blame Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 09/22/2008
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Got to give him creds for havn some nerve. If he were on the street he'd get some praise and then a good beat down. I think he needs one.

Release the Hounds !!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 09/22/2008
- Darkdonnie I'm a Fan of Darkdonnie 5 fans permalink

In a 2005 video Daniel Mudd, at the time the interim CEO of the catastrophically failed mortgage lender Fannie Mae, affirmed his fealty and that of Fannie Mae to the Congressional Black Caucus. The top three campaign donation recipients were Democrats, number two of which was Barack Obama, yet the media is laying mum on these facts. One wonders what would be going on in the media if John McCain were a top recipient of campaign donations from a market crashing, government bail-out getting organization like Fannie Mae?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

"No, say it aint so" Obama part of the problem???­??????????­?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 09/22/2008
- whoajack I'm a Fan of whoajack 3 fans permalink

Darkdonnie wrote: One wonders what would be going on in the media if John McCain were a top recipient of campaign donations from a market crashing, government bail-out getting organization like Fannie Mae?

Wonder no more because you don't ever have to, no one does, you can all go to www.opensecrets.org and look for yourself, but here's a snapshot to answer on J.S. McCain's top donors....­...

John S McCain's Top Contributors

Merrill Lynch $298,413
Citigroup Inc $269,251
Morgan Stanley $233,272
Goldman Sachs $208,395
JPMorgan Chase & Co $179,975
AT&T Inc $174,487
Blank Rome LLP $150,426
Credit Suisse Group $150,025
Greenberg Traurig LLP $146,787
UBS AG $140,165
Pricewater­houseCoope­rs $140,120
US Government $137,617
Bank of America $129,475
Wachovia Corp $122,846
Lehman Brothers $117,500
FedEx Corp $113,453
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher $104,250
US Army $103,613
Bear Stearns $99,300
Pinnacle West Capital $97,700

Can you say, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, the only one missing from last week's miscreants in the Banking Industry is AIG! Let's also notice some of this fiasco's winners, Wachovia, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase.

To be fair, Obama's largest contributors by industry places Securities and Investments at #4 with Real Estate ranking #6, while "My Friend" John McCain, Securities and Investments ranks #3 and Real Estate ranks #4.

It's pretty clear that John McCain is hip deep in contributions from the Failed Industry that threatens to destroy the world himself.

Obama' 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 09/22/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 67 fans permalink

Well, his chief strategist Davis has been getting $35,000 a month from Fannie or Freddie, so ask the media why they are not focusing on that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 09/22/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

Well, a lot of the people from "main street" are walking away from their homes even though they can make payments. They are buying the same or better home for half the price in the most impacted areas (Las Vegas, Florida, Cali).

The dems are spinningf this as a handout to wall street. Lots on hands getting our tax dollars on BOTH main street and wall street.

As usual stupid Obama playing politics instead of getting in the game and solve the problem.

On 60 minutes yesterday Steve Kroft had to work very, very hard for Obama to explain why he was qualified to be president.­. Obama was struggling to find the words and what did the homes finally come up with "I'm very good managing meetings where there are contrarian views".

Wow, well raise my rent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 09/22/2008
- goldnchyl I'm a Fan of goldnchyl 9 fans permalink
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If McCain's performance this past week is any indication of how he would react in a crisis, heaven help us all. He was clearly indecisive, attempting to push ridiculous talking points such as, "the economy is fundamentally strong" with "fundamentals" flipping to mean "American workers". Insulting President Zapatero in an attempt to cover up the fact that he wasn't sure where Spain fell on the geographical map, turning into a populist, regulator, reversing a consistent 26 yr stance as a "fundamental deregulator", against AIG bail-out on Tues, then for it on Wed., firing the head of the SEC, or is that the FEC? An overall scary performance at a time when we are truly facing tumultuous times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 09/22/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

I'm not saying McCain is a great choice because Obama is a disaster. McCain believes a lot of his baloney. Obama knows better and choses to play politics and spin himself in any direction to get a few points in the polls. We have the lesser of evils here, its a crime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 09/22/2008
- Bendersky I'm a Fan of Bendersky 3 fans permalink

I'm sorry, but I'll believe it when I see it. Thus far, the dems have caved in to everything this lame (duck) president has requested. It's like instead of giving him EVERYTHING he wants, we're only going to give him three-fourths of what he's asking for. That'll show him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 09/22/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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When someone mugs you on the street, do you use the rest of your money to buy the mugger a new pair of running shoes or do you get justice on the mugger?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 09/22/2008

If you are against the bailout, check out http://www.VoteNoBailout.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 09/22/2008

I have always paid my taxes, paid my debts, paid for my own insurance and medical costs and never asked for or received one handout from the government. But if they try and dump this bailout on me as a middle class law abiding taxpayer, then the gloves are off. I will not pay my federal income taxes and they can throw me in jail. At least I will get three meals a day and exercise!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 09/22/2008

NO BAIL OUT FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS.
You cannot solve a problem of this magnitude in days. And we certainly cannot trust Paulson and co. with the (non-existent) $700 billion dollars. It will wind up in Swiss bank accounts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 09/22/2008
- oldfart1 I'm a Fan of oldfart1 5 fans permalink

Actually, only some of it will wind up in Swiss bank accounts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 09/22/2008

I agree mom.

This smells like the final exit strategy of the Repugs trying to "globalize" the last few dollars in the US treasury before they are permanently booted out of office, and move to Dubai.

When I decided to purchase a home, it took me 90 days to clear escrow. We are supposed to transfer 3/4 of a trillion dollars to Mr. Paulsons' control in less than 7 days???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 09/22/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 67 fans permalink

More likely Dubai.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 09/22/2008
- Hufferton I'm a Fan of Hufferton 6 fans permalink

Old Macabre, er, MacCain will kill the deal—and the world’s economy—if he and his Gal Pal-In AK are elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 09/22/2008
- Shadow08 I'm a Fan of Shadow08 235 fans permalink
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Agreed. We can't take the risk of placing Palin/McCain in the Whitehouse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 09/22/2008
- BrickSykes I'm a Fan of BrickSykes 41 fans permalink

It would be easy for me to believe that this 'crisis' has been in somebody's playbook for a long time! The entire 'Credit Industry' has been raking in profits for God knows how long, mega-million CEO salaries, etc., and now they want the US Taxpayer to underwrite ALL of That as well as fund more of the same! I say support the Democrats on this one, America, we've 'Trusted' the 'Free Market System' enough as it is. If Paulsen, or whomever, cannot accede to Federal Controls, tell him to tell his Banks that they need to turn to the folks who STOLE this money in the First Place!

No, they're counting on Blackmailing the Democratic Congress! This is the Main Reason WE NEED to Repeal the 'Federal Reserve Act' more now than ever! Let's go ahead and have a GD Depression and set the Rules back in favor of the American Public!!

Brick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 09/22/2008
- oldfart1 I'm a Fan of oldfart1 5 fans permalink

The great thing about this kind of theft is that the stolen money has disappeared: no one knows where it is now. Just like WMD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 09/22/2008

My husband and I lost our home two years ago when we were both laid off from the same company. I am sick that we were $3k away from saving our home. We were unemployed for three months total! What is happening now is sickening. When we were negotiating to stay in our house, no one told our mortgage company to work with us. The house stayed empty for a year after we were evicted, creating a far greater loss for the mortgage company. The house was eventually sold for about $30,000 less than we paid.

The most frustrating thing about all this to me is that if the problem had received adequate attention when the foreclosure rate started to take a drastic turn several years ago, we probably would not be in this situation now. From our home, our mortgage company lost nearly $45k, making the $3k we owed look like peanuts! Now we don’t have our home, and our share of the tax burden created by this bailout will surely be greater than $3k!

I don’t want others to end up in our situation, but I also know that the mortgage companies put themselves into this crisis by not giving homeowners at risk an adequate chance to right their finances. Our foreclosure will keep us from buying a house again for years to come. Now we are being TOLD that money will be coming out of our paychecks to cover their screw-up? Why should we lose twice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 09/22/2008
- Darkdonnie I'm a Fan of Darkdonnie 5 fans permalink

Did you default on your loan? Did your mom tell you life was fair? She lied!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 09/22/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 634 fans permalink
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darkdonnieisadick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 09/22/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 371 fans permalink
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I really hope you are never hit by an unexpected illness, a disabling accident or a job loss...you would not handle it very well.

Di sres pect is not an attractive trait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 09/22/2008

donnieisadushbag

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 09/22/2008

Sadly, you still do not see the larger issue, Donnie. I am not crying in my cornflakes. Life is not fair, indeed. Referring to the way I was raised calls your ethics into question, so I am hesitant to dignify you with an answer. But to the others out there who are on the fence with regard to how to feel about this situation…

If you can take anything from what happened in our case, it is that the mortgage company chose to lose $45k instead of renegotiating $3k. Creating government policy to help out individuals is always tough, yes. How much “help” is too much? On the other hand, as a taxpayer, wouldn’t you rather “bail out” companies who did their best to keep THEIR debt manageable? I am just one case of thousands that landed them where they are!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 09/22/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 67 fans permalink

Given your attitude, my guess is that someone in your past life must have been very, very abusive to you. Am I wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 09/22/2008
- cqyates I'm a Fan of cqyates 2 fans permalink

I so feel for you and completely understand where you are coming from. As a formerly homeless person I know better than most that small help to fill in these unfortunate gaps helps everyone in the end. Most people are willing to work for it. If we could become the kind of Government for the People by The People that only ever existed in Thomas Paine's head; we could easily create the kind of program where the government provides an opportunity to work your way back to stability. Why don't people get that it benefits everyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 09/22/2008
- Pegi I'm a Fan of Pegi 46 fans permalink

This sort of rush job sort of reminds me of us rushing into Iraq!!! I don't like it, they aren't giving us enough time. I think we should vote on it, hell, its our money on the line so we should vote!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 09/22/2008

"...the economy will grind to a halt because consumers, who account for two-thirds of economic activity, won't be able to get the credit they need to keep spending."

It seems to me that consumers getting credit is one of the root causes of this mess to begin with. If people had not been so quick to finance homes that they KNEW they could not afford, we wouldn't be in as much of a mess. I mean come on, if your household is netting $60K/year, you know you can't afford a $250K house. But I digress...

Consumers need to STOP getting credit and, for the time being, live by the rule of "if you can't pay cash for it, you can't afford it."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 09/22/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 634 fans permalink
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The first little piggie built his house out of straw.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 09/22/2008
- Nickesq I'm a Fan of Nickesq 6 fans permalink

Maybe the first little piggy just needed a place to live and the house he found that he could afford was built out of straw because with straw the big-time builder can double his profit, which is why he is building houses in the first place. And maybe the house was vastly overvalued because speculators drove prices into the stratusphere in a market where demand exceeds supply (the perfect capitalist market). Finally, in an Administration where Brownies are in charge, maybe fraud and deregulation became the order of the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 09/22/2008
- Darkdonnie I'm a Fan of Darkdonnie 5 fans permalink

Reasoned! They will not like you here!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 09/22/2008
- Darkdonnie I'm a Fan of Darkdonnie 5 fans permalink

Question One: Is the current financial crisis the only crisis affecting the economy?

Question Two: Is a big bureaucracy solution the only answer?

Question Three: Will the Paulson plan be implemented with transparency and oversight?

Question Four: In two months we will have an election and then there will be a new administration. Is this plan something we want to trust to a post-Paulson Treasury?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 09/22/2008
- NoPCZone I'm a Fan of NoPCZone 17 fans permalink

Screw That
Who elected Paulson God?
I say let's let the Republicans eat a sh*t sandwich on this one and collapse the whole Friedmanomics myth. Alternately, we could demand a 'Shock Doctrine' package including the Employee Free Choice Act, repeal of the Bankruptcy Reform Bill and lobbying reform. Castrate these NeoCons with a taste of their own medicine.
Tell them to play or watch it all burn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 09/22/2008
- BrickSykes I'm a Fan of BrickSykes 41 fans permalink

Good for you! I'll second it!

Brick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 09/22/2008

Ditto

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 09/22/2008
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