Dire warnings fail to sway senators on big bailout

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JEANNINE AVERSA | September 23, 2008 10:44 PM EST | AP

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From left, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) Chairman Christopher Cox, and Federal Housing Finance Agency Director James Lockhart testify on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Sept. 23, 2008, before the Senate Banking Committee. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — Refusing to be pushed, Republicans and Democrats alike rebuffed dire warnings Tuesday from the government's top economic officials of recession, layoffs and foreclosed homes if Congress doesn't quickly approve the administration's emergency $700 billion financial bailout plan.

Congressional leaders still predicted passage _ with significant changes _ but Wall Street's nerves were hardly soothed. The Dow Jones industrials sank 161 points and now are off more than 500 this week after initially surging on the bailout announcement last week.

Deepening market trouble was just one piece of the economic havoc that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson told senators would ensue if Congress lags in acting on the administration's proposal to rescue tottering financial institutions.

"I share the outrage that people have," Paulson said. "It's embarrassing to look at this. I think it's embarrassing to the United States of America. There is a lot of blame to go around."

But without the bailout plan, Paulson and Bernanke sketched out a dire scenario for senators at a contentious daylong hearing: Neither businesses nor consumers would be able to borrow money, and the world's largest economy would grind to a virtual halt.

In public and in private meetings, both Democrats and Republicans said big changes are needed, presaging a difficult road ahead for the measure.

The legislation the administration is promoting would allow the government to buy bad mortgages and other rotten assets held by troubled banks and financial institutions. Getting those debts off their books should bolster those companies' balance sheets, making them more inclined to lend and easing one of the biggest choke points in the credit crisis. If the plan works, it should help lift a major weight off the national economy that is already sputtering.

One Wall Street firm got a boost Tuesday with word that Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. is investing at least $5 billion in Goldman Sachs. It was a huge vote of confidence for one of the survivors of the credit crisis that felled two of its investment banking peers.

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The news sent shares of Goldman Sachs and stock index futures soaring in electronic trading, after the Dow Jones suffered declines.

Democrats were determined to wrest concessions from the administration on domestic spending and middle-class economic aid. And they said Republicans had to share in the politically tricky task of pushing through a financial bailout six weeks before the elections at a time when millions of everyday Americans are economically strapped.

"It's their problem. It's their bill. And they're going to have to figure out if they can support it," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said of Republicans.

"Nobody wants to have to do this," agreed Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader. He said he was hopeful of a quick agreement, despite withering criticism from conservative GOP lawmakers who recoiled at the prospect of federal intervention.

Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky., said, "This massive bailout is not a solution. It is financial socialism and it's un-American."

Separately, law enforcement officials said the FBI had begun investigating four institutions whose collapse helped trigger the financial crisis.

The FBI is looking at potential fraud by mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and insurer American International Group Inc., said two officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigations. The inquiries, still in preliminary stages, will focus on the financial institutions and the people who ran them, one senior law enforcement official said.

As for the bailout plan, both parties' presidential candidates joined fellow senators in insisting on alterations in the administration's drastic prescription.

Democrats and Republicans alike demanded that the bailout limit pay packages for executives of companies helped by the rescue.

"Clipping executive compensation is easy right now _ everybody wants it," said Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga.

Democrats also were pushing proposals to let the government take some type of stake in the companies that it helps. The administration has balked at that, fearing it would discourage financial companies from getting the help they need through the bailout, thereby blunting the plan's effectiveness.

Democrats also want to let judges rewrite mortgages to lower bankrupt homeowners' monthly payments, another demand the administration is resisting.

Both Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., chairman of the Banking Committee, and the panel's top-ranking Republican, Richard Shelby of Alabama, said significant changes are needed before the rescue plan can be passed. "We have got to look at some alternatives," Shelby said.

Getting the action right is key, Dodd said: "There is no second act to this." He later spoke disparagingly of the administration's proposal. "What they have sent us is not acceptable," he told reporters.

Bernanke's remarks about the risk of recession came in response to a question from Dodd, who seemed eager to hear a strong rationale for lawmakers to act swiftly on the administration's unprecedented request.

"The financial markets are in quite fragile condition, and I think absent a plan they will get worse," Bernanke said.

Ominously, he added, "I believe if the credit markets are not functioning, that jobs will be lost, that our credit rate will rise, more houses will be foreclosed upon, GDP will contract, that the economy will just not be able to recover in a normal, healthy way."

GDP is a measure of growth, and a decline correlates with a recession.

Across the Capitol complex, Vice President Dick Cheney and President Bush's top advisers met privately with restive House Republicans, some of whom emerged from the session unpersuaded.

"Just because God created the world in seven days doesn't mean we have to pass this bill in seven days," said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas.

Added Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., "I am emphatically against it."

Paulson, seated next to Bernanke at the Senate hearing, objected strongly when Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., asked if $150 billion might be enough to get the program started, with a promise of more to come.

That would be a "grave mistake," and would fail to give the markets the confidence they needed to rebound, Paulson responded.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the Financial Services Committee chairman who is leading talks with Paulson on the plan, also called phasing in the bailout "highly unlikely."

Paulson was asked repeatedly why taxpayers should accept the burdens of a bailout.

"You worry about taxpayers being on the hook?" he replied at one point. "Guess what _ they're already on the hook." Paulson suggested that the fallout from the credit crisis would hit almost everyone in the pocketbook unless forceful action was taken. Moreover, the flawed and outdated regulatory system, which didn't catch abuses, needs to be overhauled, he said.

In New York, meanwhile, Bush was telling the U.N. General Assembly that the United States was taking "bold steps" to prevent an economic calamity that would be sure to have major effects around the world.

One of the tricky issues confronting policymakers is how to price the distressed assets that the government would ultimately buy.

Bernanke suggested buying the assets at a "hold-to-maturity" price, which would be based on an estimate of what the securities would eventually be worth as payments came in over the years.

"If the Treasury bids for and then buys assets at a price close to the hold-to-maturity price, there will be substantial benefits," Bernanke said. "First, banks will have a basis for valuing those assets and will not have to use fire-sale prices. Their capital will not be unreasonably marked down."

In contrast, if banks use existing "mark-to-market" rules that require them to value the holdings at what similar securities have recently sold for _ in some cases pennies on the dollar _ it could make the whole bailout futile because it would hurt many banks' balance sheets, causing some to fail. "This creates something of a vicious circle," he said.

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Associated Press Writers Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Martin Crutsinger contributed to this report

WASHINGTON — Refusing to be pushed, Republicans and Democrats alike rebuffed dire warnings Tuesday from the government's top economic officials of recession, layoffs and foreclosed homes if Cong...
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Haven't we all heard this Chicken-Little, "The sky is falling," story too many times already? This clearly is more of the same ol' shock doctrine stuff. Ohmagod, rich people are losing their money; we have to save them!

Bush and his boys are trying to squeeze the last drop of everything out of our nation before their time is up. Take cover and hold tight to your children, your animals, and your penny-pot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 09/25/2008

That is all he knows how to do, extort money. I mean BIG MONEY from the taxpayers with scare tactics like "the sky is falling!" Mommy, mommy, there is Alqueda in our yard!" Never mind that the WELL HAS RUN DRY. On top of that, he has NOTHING to show for it. The problem is so dire and seemingly insurmoutable that you wake up in the morning and wonder just what we did so wrong that God is punishing us so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 09/25/2008
- janinius I'm a Fan of janinius 15 fans permalink
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Hey where is Phil Graham now calling americans a bunch of whiners. How is THIS for a psychological recession, mr former economic advisor to John McSame?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 09/25/2008
- PuffDragon I'm a Fan of PuffDragon 8 fans permalink

Bush has cemented his historical record as Extortioni­st-in-Chie­f. Turning a blind eye despite numerous warnings on: 9/11, Katrina, mortgage fraud, Enron and energy price-gouging, on and on.

His greatest talent is fear-mongering.

When disaster inevitably strikes, he hastily crams policy "solutions" down Congress' throat that benefit his crony contributors, while saddling Mom & Pop America with more debt, lower paying jobs, impinging on our personal security and privacy . . . I could be here writing this list all night.

Extortionist W. is acting out the finale of his great dramatization, pretending to be a president - while drowning US taxpayers in debt to the point where he and the Big Boys can make a case for eliminating Social Security.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 09/25/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 7 fans permalink

Didn't the Federal Goverment ALREADY take control of these two companies on Sept.8 ?Congress passed legislation in July granting the government the authority to bail out the government sponsored enterprises ,so why all this B/S NOW ? When they have ALREADY ousted the chief executive officers, Fannie’s Daniel Mudd and Freddie’s Richard Syron, and placing the companies under conservatorship — which is similar to Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization, do they now want MORE TAX PAYERS MONEY ?.For what ,meet the CEO'S bonus's?Let the two companies fail ,it happens every day ,two more will become what they were and hopefully make better choices .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 09/24/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 7 fans permalink

Why doesn't Donald Trump bail Fanny and Freddy out ,move them to Mexico where he's building his new Hotelss/Casinos ,give the mexicans jobs and become a mexican citizen and end this farce at hoodwinking TAXPAYERS into thinking we HAVE to bail Fanny and Freddy out..Oh well John McCain will 'save' us all ,as soon as his campaign manager gets his next paycheck ,that is.Maybe John McCain will help Donald make up his mind with the promise of cheap labor if Trump buys Fanny and Freddy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 09/24/2008
- 530Rose I'm a Fan of 530Rose 2 fans permalink

Unbelievable! Congress is actually thinking for itself for once! It amazes me that the deal wasn't passed in 24 hours. The GOP actually acted like old guard republicans, the dems actually insisting on assistance for individuals before bailing out corporations. I applaud them both!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 09/24/2008
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NO BAILOUT.
I want to see Wall Street shysters jumping out windows.
I will EAT CAT FOOD for a YEAR and call it ice cream if I have to but
NO BAIL OUT, NO welfare for the rich.

Goodbye dollar, hello Amero, read your Michael C. Ruppert...
all of this was planned a long time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 09/24/2008

Fear mongering is not going to work this time. You can't make the American people and Congress do something based on the rhetoric of "end of world as we know it "anymore".

Now you have McCain giving further scare tactics with his latest Publicity Stunt. Why does the administration, McCain, or the rest of Congress wait until we reach a perceived "breaking point" to push "last minute policy".

McCain can certainly put in his two cents Friday morning and make it to the debates on Friday night.

How about the crazy idea of pulling out of Iraq because we need to rebuild our own country before we worry about others. We certainly could use the money which is now going to NOTHING!

It didn't take Nostradamus to see this crisis coming. Its too bad it didn't come 4 years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 09/24/2008

Poor dubya, running around in circles and yelling...­..the sky is falling-the sky is falling...­..and wondering why nobody is really paying attention to him this time around. Seem's the last time he was yelling the sky is falling...­..it actually did....on and around the Iraqi people....­..all courtsey of dubya himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 09/24/2008
- janinius I'm a Fan of janinius 15 fans permalink
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not to mention the time before that when a massive percentage of our constitutional rights were ramsacked by the patriot act!

all this administration does is create crisis and fear monger people into their solutions of their self made crisis calling them unpatriotic if they dont fall in line.

Stalin had nothin' on these chumps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 09/25/2008
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 64 fans permalink
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Time to listen to this again ~~

"I'm Changing My Name to Chrysler" --Song/lyrics by Tom Paxton. Sung by Arlo Guthrie
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 09/24/2008
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Very tired today . . . . Here's the link ~~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daBx_PBrvSE
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 09/24/2008

We take every cent they have, everything they oen, their healthcare, dental, & optica. Then we start paying the debt. We put judgements on them, garnish their wags, & throe them in jail like they have to WE THE PEOPLE, & SEE HOW THEY LIVE WITH THIS CRUELTY.


NO BAILOUT!! PAY YOUR DUES. ESPECIALLY THE BUSHES & THE CHENEY'S.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 09/24/2008

gIVE THE 700 TRILLION TO we the people, & we'll let it trickle up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 09/24/2008
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 64 fans permalink
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Good. They privatize the profits and socialize the costs. They "don't want to answer" to the American People. Too frickin' bad.

The re-puke-lics are "kind-of, a [party] of WHINERS"

F**k You too, Paulson
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 09/24/2008
- opticsopen I'm a Fan of opticsopen 7 fans permalink

This bailout will do the same thing those stimulus checks did back at midyear. Nothing! The leaches are still feeding! No bailout! Let them eat cake! Leave it alone, let the system wring itself out and all the crooks with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 09/24/2008

It is looking more and more like a political ploy at least as far as their timing is concerned. The McCain camp thought the first debate would be all about the "big bail out" and how the Bush administration had saved our financial system. Now he is using the fact that Congress did not seem to be caving in as an excuse to cancel the debate this week. I hope Congress drags this out until after the election in November. This administration is telling us that the system will collapse if we do not do something immediately. But the system has not collapsed, and probably will not collapse, credit is just tightening up. If the market starts a downward spiral, then Congress can pass emergency legislation. I think this legislation in any form should not be passed now, not under this administration at any cost, because I do not trust them. If Congress needs to adjorn to go home to campaign and that's what the big rush is, then they should make the case that it is just too serious to rush into and table it to deal with when they get back in session.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 09/24/2008

ok, i'm changing my mind.
not dreadful people.
dreadful jackasses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 09/24/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

Evil Lying thieves and warmongers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 09/24/2008
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