Bailout deal breaks down; Paulson back to Capitol

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JENNIFER LOVEN and JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS | September 25, 2008 11:37 PM EST | AP

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President Bush, center, meets with Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., far left, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., far left, and congressional leaders in the Cabinet Room of the White House Thursday, Sept. 25, 2008, in Washington to discuss the proposed bailout of the financial industry. Also seated with them from left to right, Minority Leader John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

WASHINGTON — A Republican rebellion stalled government efforts Thursday to avoid economic meltdown, a chaotic turnaround that disrupted the choreography of am extraordinary White House meeting meant to show joint resolve from the president, the political parties and the presidential candidates.

After six days of intensive talks on the $700 billion financial industry bailout proposed by the Bush administration, with Wall Street tottering and presidential politics intruding six weeks before the election, there was more confusion than clarity.

An apparent breakthrough was announced with fanfare at midday by key members of Congress from both parties _ but not top leaders. Wall Street cautiously showed its pleasure, with the Dow Jones industrials closing 196 points higher.

But the good news and the market close were followed by a rash of less-positive developments.

Washington Mutual Inc. was seized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in the largest failure ever of a U.S. bank, after which JPMorgan Chase & Co. Inc. came to its rescue by buying the thrift's banking assets.

And a late-afternoon White House summit bringing together President Bush, presidential contenders John McCain and Barack Obama, and top congressional leaders, described as "a full-throated discussion" by one person in the room and "a contentious shouting match" by McCain's campaign, broke up with conflicts in plain view.

Conservatives were in revolt over the astonishing price tag of the proposal and the hand of government that it would place on private markets.

Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee, emerged from the White House meeting to say the announced agreement "is obviously no agreement." McCain's campaign issued a statement saying, "the plan that has been put forth by the administration does not enjoy the confidence of the American people as it will not protect the taxpayers and will sacrifice Main Street in favor of Wall Street." The White House, too, acknowledged there was no deal, only progress.

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Meanwhile a group of House GOP lawmakers circulated an alternative that would put much less focus on a government takeover of failing institutions' sour assets. This proposal would have the government provide insurance to companies that agree to hold frozen assets, rather than have the U.S. purchase the assets.

Inside the White House session, House Republican leader John Boehner announced his concerns about the emerging plan and asked that the conservatives' alternative be considered, said people from both parties who were briefed on the exchange. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the session was private.

Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, the feisty Democrat who has been leading negotiations with Paulson, reacted angrily, saying Republicans had waited until the last moment to present their proposal.

Meanwhile McCain, who dramatically announced Wednesday that he was suspending his campaign to deal with the economic crisis, stayed silent for most of the session and spoke only briefly to voice general principles for a rescue plan.

Weary congressional negotiators then resumed working into the night, joined by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson in an effort to revive or rework the proposal that Bush said must be quickly approved by Congress to stave off potentially "a long and painful recession." They gave up after 10 p.m. EDT, more than an hour after the lone House Republican involved, Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama, left the room.

Talks were to resume Friday morning on the effort to bail out failing financial institutions and restart the flow of credit that has begun to starve the national economy.

The Bush administration plan's centerpiece remained for the government to buy the toxic, mortgage-based assets of shaky financial institutions in a bid to keep them from going under and setting off a cascade of ruinous events, including wiped-out retirement savings, rising home foreclosures, closed businesses and lost jobs.

The earlier bipartisan accord establishing principles and important details would have given the Bush administration just a fraction of the money it wanted up front, subjecting half the $700 billion total to a congressional veto. The treasury secretary would get $250 billion immediately and could have an additional $100 billion if he certified it was needed, an approach designed to give lawmakers a stronger hand in controlling the unprecedented rescue.

The Bush administration had already agreed to several concessions based on demands from the right and left, including that the government take equity in companies helped by the bailout and put rules in place to limit excessive compensation of their executives, according to a draft of the outline obtained by The Associated Press.

Democrat Obama and Republican McCain, who have both sought to distance themselves from the unpopular Bush, sat down with the president at the White House for the hourlong afternoon session that was striking in this brutally partisan season. By also including Congress' Democratic and Republican leaders, the meeting gathered nearly all Washington's political power structure at one long table in a small West Wing room.

"All of us around the table ... know we've got to get something done as quickly as possible," Bush declared optimistically at the start of the meeting. Obama and McCain were at distant ends of the oval table, not even in each other's sight lines. Bush, playing host in the middle, was flanked by Congress' two Democratic leaders, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

But neither Bush, McCain nor Obama have been deeply involved so far in this week's scramble to hammer out a package. The meeting was intended more to provide bipartisan political cover for lawmakers to support a plan in the face of an angry public and their own re-election bids in six weeks.

At day's end, Frank said he told Paulson "this whole thing is at risk if the president can't get members of his own party to participate."

Layered over the White House meeting was a complicated web of potential political benefits and consequences for both presidential candidates.

McCain hoped voters would believe that he rose above politics to wade into successful, nitty-gritty dealmaking at a time of urgent crisis, but he risked being seen instead as either overly impulsive or politically craven, or both. Obama saw a chance to appear presidential and fit for duty but was also caught off guard strategically by McCain's surprising gamble in saying he was suspending his campaigning and asking to delay Friday night's debate to focus on the crisis.

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Associated Press writers Deb Riechmann, Martin Crutsinger, Christopher Wills and Beth Fouhy in Washington and researcher Judy Ausuebel in New York contributed to this story.

(Corrects quote in 13th paragraph, Weary congressional ..., to 'painful' instead 'deep' recession.)

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- Yesnik I'm a Fan of Yesnik 2 fans permalink

Everyone can kiss their 401K goodbye tomorrow.

Stocks are going to drop like a rock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 09/25/2008
- Speakupper I'm a Fan of Speakupper 10 fans permalink

John Mc Cain's theatrics are keeping all of us hostage to his rage, selfishness and insistence on having things his way or no way.

Thanks to John Mc Cain, now all Americans and the entire global economy are POW's-PRISONSERS of WASHINGTON!

This is just a glimpse of what we are in for if he is rewarded with the presidency. ENOUGH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 09/25/2008

Why is this plan being treated like a forgone conclusion? That the Bush administration is still trying to retain influence is absurd, he is a lame duck. He was a horrible President, why is his administrations plan the starting point, I understand his role in the budget making process but at this point we could afford to give him less influence over policy. Not that congress is that much better but it seems like the Paulson/ Bush plan is a weak starting point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 09/25/2008
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What an amazing waste of everyone's time...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 09/25/2008

Most of the world doesn't know about the 65 Trillion Dollar Credit Swap Defaults still looming. It dwarfs the mortgage crises and it all has more to do with a Fiat Currency Bubble Burst.

The info is on http://www.coinage.me/default.htm

Where the flaws are articulated in detail unlike anything you see on the news, such that you can understand them and so the workings are not obfuscated with complexity. A detail solution is provided to fix the foundation, which everyone else speaking about the problem seems to lack.

Many people only see the appearances they do not see the fundamental flaw in the system itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 09/25/2008
- bk13 I'm a Fan of bk13 permalink

Let me start with a quote from Prof. Carroll Quigley, renowned, late Georgetown macro-historian (mentioned by former President Clinton in his first nomination acceptance speech)

"The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole...Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world's money..."

The problem with our economy is the Federal Reserve and The fractional reserve lending system.

The Federal Reserve has a monopoly over the creation of our money.

The federal reserve is is a privately owned bank whose sole purpose is to make money for it's share holders.

The federal reserve has been robbing American people since it was established in 1913.

The only solution to this problem is to:
1. Dissolve the Federal Reserve
2. Outlaw Fractional Reserve Lending
3. Institute a Monetary Reform Act based on debt free notes.

This is the one and ONLY issue that truly matters in terms returning power to the people of the United States.

Here's a link to a documentary on google video that goes into more detail:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

Here's a link to the web site where you order the DVD and find out more about the proposed Monetary Reform Act:
http://www.themoneymasters.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 09/25/2008
- kj11 I'm a Fan of kj11 permalink

...Democrats are colluding with Republicans cause they are both bought out.


they sold their souls....can't you tell?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 09/25/2008
- kj11 I'm a Fan of kj11 permalink

Democrats? Where art thou?

....it is collusion with those who do not want to see Obama President


....Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 09/25/2008
- kj11 I'm a Fan of kj11 permalink

NO!

don't vote any of 'em back in if they do this....please.

Remember who voted: Pelosi, Reid, Clinton,....?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 09/25/2008
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When the latest WTF plan blows up I hope all you all wake up and vote Frank Dodd, Schumer most of the republicans out of office Any one on Open Secrets who receives the majority fo their political Donations like these Bozos who gave Paulson the first blank Check tto "bailout" Freddie and Fannie. Dodd the idiot is still trying to say that Freddie and Fannie don't have toxic mortgages on their books what a lying sack of crap. if they are so damned solvent why the government take over.
WE need an independent commission that will prosecute people like Dodd who were complicit and received over 6 million last year form Banking and Real estate. Should we really trust Paulson with his exit strategy Or the rest of the felching politicians to do anything but make us pay for the incompetence of wall street or their dithering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 09/25/2008
- studlyguy I'm a Fan of studlyguy 9 fans permalink

The end of the American empire,this is the end people bailing out the corps and the peons can fend for themselves ,get ready for really tough times in America,the crash is imminent the r e p u k e s are just trying to stall it until after the elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 09/25/2008

Assuming a deal has been reached, doesn't it make McCain look a bit silly for suspending his campaign? How long will it have been suspended, a couple hours?

Looks like the deal will be done before his plane even touches down in Washington - he and Obama can just vote on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 09/25/2008

It was never suspended -- I read that they were still running ads! And his speech this morning was totally campaigning!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 09/25/2008

In his announcement yesterday, he said he was suspending it this morning AFTER that event.

And I've heard that stations WERE told to stop running ads although some haven't pulled them on such short notice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 09/25/2008

It says a lot about the poor state of the McSame Campaign when the best political move they can make is to stop campaigning. LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 09/25/2008
- Audrey85 I'm a Fan of Audrey85 5 fans permalink

Well America just doesn't care about issues, only RACE so what can be done. He has stolen from Obama's campaign since before the end of the primary season. His campaign theme, slogan, tried to steal the economic plan but he didn't understand it, talked about health care but he missed the point. Beat him so he thought with suspending his campaign and trying to cancel the debates oops meant postpone his and cancel the VP debate. Woke up a little late to save the day and totally ignored it because he was putting together his latest campaign ads/smears so. The writing is ont he wall, McCain doesn't get it but it continues to be close so what more can Barack Do but stay on message and continue campaigning on issues. The case has already been made everyone can't hear or see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 09/25/2008
- NicoleAnon I'm a Fan of NicoleAnon 9 fans permalink

I can't believe they're getting away with pulling off the biggest heist in American history. And the really sad thing is the bloodthirty vultures called lobbyists from the financial industry are getting exactly what they want but there is nobody to represent honest Americans who don't want to bailout banks. And everyone in congress knows how we feel - they have received thousands of calls and emails and they're still going to approve the bailout.

And do you know what they say after it's done? The same thing they said after giving Bush authority to attack Iraq.

"It's not our fault - they didn't give us the right information."
"We didn't realize we were being lied to."
"We believed them when they said the world would end if we didn't do what they wanted NOW NOW NOW RIGHT NOW."

And it's not just us - some of the world's best economists have said this is a mistake. And guess what? Some banks will make lots of money from this because the government is going to pay them to "manage" all the toxic loans the taxpayers just bought. That's right - the people who got us in the mess in the first place. And of course Goldman Sachs has already offficial asked to be the bank that manages the fund.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 09/25/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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If they don't bail them out then you nor anyone else will have a job. You talking about not bailing them out. How the heck is the country going to survive. The bail out if fine, it's who controls it that is the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 09/25/2008
- mcostello I'm a Fan of mcostello 7 fans permalink

Maybe you don't understand the massive nature of 700 billion dollars?
This is the amount we have spent in Iraq, to date. It is so huge that you really can' t even imagine it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 09/25/2008
- mcostello I'm a Fan of mcostello 7 fans permalink

And you are assuming that 700 billion WILL save this thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 09/25/2008
- NicoleAnon I'm a Fan of NicoleAnon 9 fans permalink

That is a lie - I know people at regular banks and I guarantee you many of them would still be in business. They're doing the same thing they did before the war in Iraq and everyone is falling for it.

The bailout is protect investment banks and keep the stock market from falling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 09/25/2008
- Ohg I'm a Fan of Ohg 5 fans permalink

And just in time - Bush is sending FEMA to Wall Street ..........­..........­.......
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/25/bush-sends-fema-to-wall-street/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 09/25/2008
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