Barack Obama On The Strength Of Negotiating

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First Posted: 09-26-08 10:44 PM   |   Updated: 10-27-08 05:12 AM

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One of the clearest policy -- and personality -- contrasts in the debate came when Barack Obama and John McCain discussed the issue of negotiating with other nations.

After McCain attacked him (angrily) for being open to negotiations, Barack Obama explained why negotiating is actually puts the United States in a stronger position, and why McCain's view is actually weak.

As he wrapped up his answer, Obama also hit McCain's refusal to commit to meeting with Spain -- a NATO ally.

One of the clearest policy -- and personality -- contrasts in the debate came when Barack Obama and John McCain discussed the issue of negotiating with other nations. After McCain attacked him (angri...
One of the clearest policy -- and personality -- contrasts in the debate came when Barack Obama and John McCain discussed the issue of negotiating with other nations. After McCain attacked him (angri...
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To those commenters who are scandalized that Mc Cain't used an expression that might possibly be: "horsesh!t": Perhaps you're forgetting that this gentleman referred to the wife who keeps him in the luxury to which he has become accustomed as a "tro11op" and a "c**t."

This latest example of his lack of manners is hardly surprising.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 09/27/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 83 fans permalink
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OMG: Mc-same DOES say "horsebleep" and it is audible. Geez, next debate they might need a 7 second delay!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 09/27/2008

No, he doesn't say horse bleep. He was trying to interject a comment beginning with "of course".

And, in case you're wondering, I am a rabid long-time Obama supporter. That was a superb Obama attack, I might add.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 09/27/2008

There is an audible audience reaction upon McCain's first utterance that suggested he did Not say "of course not" or "of course"...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 09/27/2008
- chs1965 I'm a Fan of chs1965 2 fans permalink

Nice self control on the old man's part. And this is how he will deal with Putin, China, et.al.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 09/27/2008
- greatblue I'm a Fan of greatblue 2 fans permalink
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McCain clearly said Horsesh*t. Bad form.
Worse is his use of the debate footage in his new internet ad.

http://vagreatblueheron.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/mccain-obama-is-very-subliminally-scary/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 09/27/2008
- scotia626 I'm a Fan of scotia626 10 fans permalink
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he most definitely said HORSE S**T not once but twice.
where is the MSM on this
he is a smug demented old man
he did refuse to meet with spain; what's horse manure is that the MSM REFUSES to pick up on his unending gaffes, mis-steps and erratic behavour; he is not fit to be president of the seniors center let alone the free world- and Palin- well MOOSE manure.
In ignoring and enabling mccain, the MSM is putting the country and the world at risk- Jack Cafferty (bless his heart and may he have peace at the loss of his spouse) not withstanding.
for shame

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 09/27/2008

YOU KNOW...IT REALLY WASN'T THAT OLD MAN MCHORSESH*T SAID HE WOULDN'T MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT OF SPAIN..IF YOUWATCH THE INTERVIEW, OLD MAN MCDEAFNESS HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE REPORTER WAS ASKING...H­E HEARD SOMETHING SPANISH AND DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE..."OH MY GOD...IS THAT S.AMERICA? CENTRAL AMERICA? SPAIN? PORTUGAL? HIS 'NO' WAS A BLANKET NO.....COV­ERING ANY/EVERY SPANISH SOUNDING PRESIDENT IN THE WORLD. WAY TO GO MCMORON...­.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 09/27/2008

If McCain can't look his Democratic opponent in the eye, muttering "bullshit" as regards his position on a meeting with NATO ally, Spain, how is he going to ever going negotiate wilh people of differing views, some extremely radical, from around the globe?

This man is psychologically unfit to be the next president and every decision he's made in the last two months, much less throughout his long but largely ineffective political career, echos that sentiment.
Palin choice. Canceling the Republican Convention, rather than be embarrassed by a 2nd storm hit on New Orleans. Canceling the debate, than changing his mind. Flying to Washington to be seen as a Maverick of some kind, than just as abruptly leaving without introducing a single new thought to the bailout discussions. Supporting ever larger tax cuts for the wealthy with a projected total federal deficit of over $8 Triliion. Need I go on! The man's an empty suit, with POW record. Period .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 09/27/2008
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LOL OMG! I thought it just a youtube hoax about McCain saying horsesh** during the debate because while watching I did not notice it - and it seems neither has any of the pundits...

But now as I rewatch the video McCain clearly said horse *poop*....

I HOPE the MSM media picks up on this LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 09/27/2008
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Olbermann said, ""It was "course not, course not" -- with his sibilant "s" it sounds like "coursh not, coursh not" -- I heard it live, wearing an ear plug, and I have a pretty good ear."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/27/1216/62905/110/612142


I hope those who can lip-read weigh in on this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 09/27/2008
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I love Keith Olbermann to death, but he is WRONG!

The second syllable is "IT" not "OT".
When you says "it", your mouth is barely open.
When you say "ot", your mouth is open like saying "Ahhhh" to a doctor.

He said "horse$h!t".

Can we get the FCC to fine him or something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 09/27/2008
- PoliJunkie I'm a Fan of PoliJunkie 17 fans permalink

He is saying Horsesh*t! I saw it and heard it with my ears. I read his lips he is definitely saying that word 2 times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 09/27/2008
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I have to agree with you.....it sounded like "..'course not " (especially the second time he said it).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 09/27/2008
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I wonder what the closed captioning to this says. I won't be home at 4pm when they rerun the debate on MSNBC, but I'd love to know if they pick up on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 09/27/2008
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McCain totally says horsesh*t when Obama brings up the Spain thing at the end of the clip. He says it twice. You can even read his lips.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 09/27/2008
- honeydiva I'm a Fan of honeydiva 19 fans permalink

personally if he did say horse^hit, then i hope Mr. 0 would say "and yours is bull6hit so lets call it a draw". why is anyone shocked at 0ld's nasty mouth. He's disgusting but folks want to call it grit. I'm sure he thinks he knows how to get down...i'm sure Mr.0 can show him how to really get down after the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 09/27/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 167 fans permalink

Obama doesn't shout and he doesn't swear at his opponents. Not who he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 09/27/2008
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McCain clearly said Horsesh*t. Bad form.
Worse is his use of the debate footage in his new internet ad.
vagreatblueheron.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/mccain-obama-is-very-subliminally-scary/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 09/27/2008
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Shame on HuffPost for the link from the Politics page to this story.

The link shows: Obama Mocks McCain's Spain Diplomacy Gaffe

Obama didn't mock McCain, and McCain's reply to that reporter was not a gaffe. His campaign's response the next day proves that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 09/27/2008
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You miss the point.

It was a gaffe because Spain is our NATO ally. Obama's point was "how can you improve relations with the world when you won't even sit down with our friends?"

The point was excellently made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 09/27/2008
- GingerB I'm a Fan of GingerB 82 fans permalink
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McCain didn't make a mistake, a gaffe. He meant to snub Spain, our ally, which is worse IMO.

Saying Obama mocked him is a huge disservice to Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 09/27/2008
- NYCMami I'm a Fan of NYCMami 12 fans permalink

During the pat where Obama points out his silly gaffe McCain clearly says "That's horsesh!t,­horsesh!t"

On live TV. In front of millions of people. This guy that wants to be the President

Stay classy, John.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1rZBmk0DYU&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 09/27/2008

Did he or di he not say "horseshit" to Obama - that is the question???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 09/27/2008
- ohio4obama I'm a Fan of ohio4obama 16 fans permalink

Yes, he did. See the link above you. McCain is a disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 09/27/2008

I thought you were wrong about the "horseshit" comments, but I went back and it sure looks and sounds like that's exactly what he said--TWICE. Pretty contemptuous comments to make, but definitely in accordance with the rest of McCain's body language throughout the debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 09/27/2008
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If McCain can't look Obama in the eye, how can he be expected to look at our adversaries in the eye?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 09/27/2008
- peace1970 I'm a Fan of peace1970 4 fans permalink

I love how he got that in there about mccain not meeting with SPAIN!!
I was so sick of mccain's creepy troll like gestures and "smiles"..­..Bring it OBAMA!! Now for the VP debate...h­ehehehehe
Obama/Biden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 09/27/2008

He did an excellent job in this part of the debate.

Obama 08.... Vote ppl get everyone to VOTE OBAMA 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 09/27/2008
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