Obama Says Bailout Bill Should Not Include Bankruptcy Reform

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First Posted: 09-26-08 12:50 AM   |   Updated: 10-26-08 05:12 AM

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The progressive wing of the House Democratic caucus reacted angrily Thursday evening to the news that Barack Obama opposes attempts to add bankruptcy reform to the Wall Street bailout bill.

A large block of Democrats is seeking to add a provision to the $700 billion measure that would empower bankruptcy judges to help homeowners avoid foreclosure. The bankruptcy proposal and a separate effort to place caps on executive pay in firms that benefit from new government subsidies are two key, but controversial, provisions that Democrats have pressed for in recent days. They legislators have two aims: a) to help voters who are taking a beating in the current economic downturn; and b) to address public anger over what many of their constituents see as the transfer of taxpayer dollars to mismanaged companies.

Most congressional Democrats learned of Obama's opposition to the addition of the bankruptcy provisions at a closed meeting Thursday evening, after the White House meeting attended by House and Senate leaders of both parties, President Bush, and Obama and John McCain.

In fact, however, Obama had publicly disclosed his opposition 24 hours earlier, at a Wednesday press briefing in Clearwater, Fla., before he left for Washington.

Although very few media accounts noted his Wednesday stand, he told reporters in Clearwater that "issues like bankruptcy reform, which are very important to Democrats, is probably something that we shouldn't try to do in this piece of legislation." In addition, he said that his own proposed economic stimulus program "is not necessarily something that we should have in this package."

At the session Thursday night with the Democratic Caucus, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to sources, told members that Obama is "our messenger," suggesting that he should call the shots. Her stand did not sit well with members seeking to add amendments to the legislation.

In Clearwater, Obama said, "Every American has a stake in solving this crisis and saving our financial system from collapse, because, if we don't act soon, then people's jobs, people's savings, the economic security of millions of Americans will be put at risk. So, the clock is ticking."

Because of the emergency situation, Obama argued that "what we shouldn't do is to try to get everything done in this package. What we should be doing is following the clear principles, that taxpayers are protected, that we have oversight, that taxpayers are going to get their money back, and that the housing crisis is going to be dealt with as well."

The progressive wing of the House Democratic caucus reacted angrily Thursday evening to the news that Barack Obama opposes attempts to add bankruptcy reform to the Wall Street bailout bill. A large b...
The progressive wing of the House Democratic caucus reacted angrily Thursday evening to the news that Barack Obama opposes attempts to add bankruptcy reform to the Wall Street bailout bill. A large b...
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At this point, with everything on the line, any Democrat or Liberal that doesn't 100% back Obama and everything he does to try and get elected, is simply a selfish jerk (and can't think more than two feet ahead).

After the election, it is a different story. That is when you go with your truest of philosophies and fight. If anything, the right wing needs to see and hear the far left opinion and get scared into compromising.

Nothing matters right now like the election. All else can be compromised and "strategised".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 09/26/2008
- Dalpine I'm a Fan of Dalpine 6 fans permalink

Everyone should concede to the bailout bill even if it included funding to Acorn? Too much has been slipped into the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 09/27/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/16/2008

Obama is correct...the bailout shold not include bankruptcy reform. A few years ago, consumers were restricted by new bankruptcy laws. Ironically, some of these CEOs walk away with large pension or benefit packages while workers are left scrambling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 09/26/2008

Wait a minute, the way I read the article the bankruptcy reform will allow the working man to keep his/her home. The working man now unable to pay all their bills and being in danger of foreclosure, because of the higher cost of living and working. It would also place caps on executive pay and hopefully prevent those golden umbrellas. Why should a hard working person lose their home because of the mess this war in Iraq has cost the U.S. while executives abandon a sinking ship with a million dollar golden umbrella? I believe, in this instance, that Obama is wrong. Is this bill just to help Wall Street? I believe it should do everything to help the working man and small businesses. I foresaw and have been shouting out in political chat rooms about the cost of a war in Iraq, since it's inception. The highest deficit in the history of the United States, higher gas prices increasing the cost of living and a death toll of American and Ally soldiers which is too high a price to pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 10/02/2008

Soaring gas prices means people have less to spend on other things. That causes decreased production and the eventual loss of jobs. More foreclosures are inevitable. Bush is responsible for this domino effect and is now asking congress to pass a socialistic policy, like he ignored our Constitution and passed the Patriot Act during a time of great fear, grief and anger following 9/11. We could have fought a smart war, a war on terrorism where every American could have participated by weaning ourselves off of oil. There would have been an increase in the demand for products and services which use and provide alternative energy sources. As it stands now, individuals, companies and our whole economy is suffering and Osama Bin Laden doesn't have to attack - he can just sit back and laugh! Does that not make you as angry as it does me!? If they can provide funding for a Wall Street bailout then why couldn't they have funded companies which would have provided us with what we need to ignore foreign oil and squash terrorists like Osama Bin Laden. Any deficit would have been offset by a burgeoning economy. American products could have been exported to our allies. The cost of war is too high, monetarily and in the cost of life and limb to the soldiers. Do you and Obama really think that bankruptcy reform to protect the working American and keeps families in their homes isn't worth what we will spend in rebuilding Iraq?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 10/02/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 09/26/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 09/26/2008
- pc51 I'm a Fan of pc51 17 fans permalink
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Obama is such an advocate....for big business!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 09/26/2008
- edwcorey I'm a Fan of edwcorey 18 fans permalink

Look, once people start attaching ornaments to the tree, the bickering and tit-for-tat additions will never stop. Every bill should be discrete: it should be simple, comprehensible, and easily enforced--not all over the map, with amendments dangling like dreadlocks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 09/26/2008
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I think you have Obama and McCain confused;
McCain is for big business,and he is for more corporate welfare for these folks that messed everything up.
Obama is smart; deal with one thing at a time.
Also: are you familiar with the current bankruptcy laws? It is quite difficult for real people to declare bankruptcy and Obama wants those fat cats to go through the process that every ordinary citizen has to go through....
Think about it.
Oh, I forgot, republicans don't think.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 09/26/2008

all i have to say is no tax payer should be paying anything for this bill, let the fat cats give back their millions in bounces and have to sell their homes. from what ihear they all walk away free no punishment to them what so ever. if this is the case then every american in america should not have to pay their loans off or lose their homes. enough is enough. about time the ceo's have to pay and who ever else was involed in this mess. VOTERS IF WE GET STUCK ALL NEED TO STAND UP GET A WHOLE NEW SENATE AND CONGRESS . NO JUST COMPLIAN STAND UP AND BE HEARD. WE AMERICANS GOT SRCEWED ENOUGH WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN OFFICE NOW

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 09/26/2008

Obama is so much more together than any other candidate. It's truly amazing that he's not blowing the competition away in the polls. I do not the Dems should agree to anything more than what they conceded to yesterday. Also, they should step away from the deal if the signers are not at least equal on both sides of the aisle. As far as Pelosi is concerned, I think she is a bit out of her element as speaker. She is too easy, too willing to compromise. She needs to not be so afraid to stand up for her constituents. She caves in too much under pressure from Paulson and Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 09/26/2008

He and the Democratic Congress can pass all the bankruptcy relief they want in 4 months; his job now is to make sure there's a financial infrastructure left when they do. He should speak directly to the American People on this, but make clear that any package needs to have fundamentally bipartisan support. Getting all the bells & whistles on this that the Loo Dobbs and Pat Buchanans of the world want would be like hearding cats through a mall, and these Repug simpletons like the Senator from Alabama need to 1. understand and 2. explain to their inbred constituents some hard truths.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 09/26/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 09/26/2008
- pilgrim7 I'm a Fan of pilgrim7 11 fans permalink

For everything there is a fixed time, and a time for every business under the sun.
-Ecclesiastes 3:1

I agree with Obama. This is a crisis situation that needs to be addressed as quickly as possible. But while the bill should not condone a blanket, inequitable no-strings-attached $700M bailout, this is not the time to address bankruptcy reform and other executive pay issues not direcly related to this bill. Those weighty issues need to be addressed and fought for separately, also as quickly as possible, by this (up until now) lazy, vacation-loving, do-nothing congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 09/26/2008
- pilgrim7 I'm a Fan of pilgrim7 11 fans permalink

$700B. My bad.

"After reading this think about the 700 Billion $ Bailout you will pay for.

How many zeros in a billion?

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 09/26/2008
- edwcorey I'm a Fan of edwcorey 18 fans permalink

D.
A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

Not even Lucy? A billion days is less than three million years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 09/26/2008
- ajax2 I'm a Fan of ajax2 22 fans permalink
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Obama stay away from Reid and Pelosi. They are joyfully stamping their name on a very unpopular hand-out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 09/26/2008

Obama is correct.
This emergency bailout plan can't be overloaded with new reform laws.
Obama is protecting main street and helping the economy to survive at the same time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 09/26/2008

Barack is 100% correct, he realizes you have to creep before you can walk. After 1/20/09, he will be in a position to do what he thinks is best for the American people and the country. He is more intelligent than we give him credit for. We ALL want everything to be done today! It took us almost eight years to get in the mess we are in today by putting the wrong person in the WH so, it's going to take putting Barack in office to change things. I have done my part by voting early yesterday in Georgia.

Now you do your part by voting early if you can. We can make a difference YES WE CAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 09/26/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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I listened to Obama regarding what his stance was on bankruptcy reform. He wanted it included in the package. My ears did not fool me. Now if they don't do it then it is not his fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 09/26/2008

This article is not as clear as it could be in stating Obama's position. He is not opposed to bankruptcy reform; he is opposed to trying to deal with a very contentious issue in this package and thereby increasing opposition to it and delaying a solution to the economic crisis. He believes that bankruptcy reform should be dealt with separately. I can see his point - he has always said that he believes negotiation and compromise are worthwhile in the interest of getting things done, a la Lincoln's "team of rivals." How about a compromise that would at least immediately protect taxpayers who have one mortgage on one home? These are not the people conservatives are railing against who tried to make a killing flipping properties and overextended themselves. These are people who tried to follow the "American Dream" that has been pushed on us for generations and got caught up in abusive lending practices. And no, I'm not one of them. I have actually been called "un-American" because I had no interest in owning a home (for reasons that had nothing to do with politics or the economy, but only my personal circumstances). Now I'm kinda relieved to be a lowly renter!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 09/26/2008
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