Obama Says Bailout Bill Should Not Include Bankruptcy Reform

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First Posted: 09-26-08 12:50 AM   |   Updated: 10-26-08 05:12 AM

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The progressive wing of the House Democratic caucus reacted angrily Thursday evening to the news that Barack Obama opposes attempts to add bankruptcy reform to the Wall Street bailout bill.

A large block of Democrats is seeking to add a provision to the $700 billion measure that would empower bankruptcy judges to help homeowners avoid foreclosure. The bankruptcy proposal and a separate effort to place caps on executive pay in firms that benefit from new government subsidies are two key, but controversial, provisions that Democrats have pressed for in recent days. They legislators have two aims: a) to help voters who are taking a beating in the current economic downturn; and b) to address public anger over what many of their constituents see as the transfer of taxpayer dollars to mismanaged companies.

Most congressional Democrats learned of Obama's opposition to the addition of the bankruptcy provisions at a closed meeting Thursday evening, after the White House meeting attended by House and Senate leaders of both parties, President Bush, and Obama and John McCain.

In fact, however, Obama had publicly disclosed his opposition 24 hours earlier, at a Wednesday press briefing in Clearwater, Fla., before he left for Washington.

Although very few media accounts noted his Wednesday stand, he told reporters in Clearwater that "issues like bankruptcy reform, which are very important to Democrats, is probably something that we shouldn't try to do in this piece of legislation." In addition, he said that his own proposed economic stimulus program "is not necessarily something that we should have in this package."

At the session Thursday night with the Democratic Caucus, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to sources, told members that Obama is "our messenger," suggesting that he should call the shots. Her stand did not sit well with members seeking to add amendments to the legislation.

In Clearwater, Obama said, "Every American has a stake in solving this crisis and saving our financial system from collapse, because, if we don't act soon, then people's jobs, people's savings, the economic security of millions of Americans will be put at risk. So, the clock is ticking."

Because of the emergency situation, Obama argued that "what we shouldn't do is to try to get everything done in this package. What we should be doing is following the clear principles, that taxpayers are protected, that we have oversight, that taxpayers are going to get their money back, and that the housing crisis is going to be dealt with as well."

The progressive wing of the House Democratic caucus reacted angrily Thursday evening to the news that Barack Obama opposes attempts to add bankruptcy reform to the Wall Street bailout bill. A large b...
The progressive wing of the House Democratic caucus reacted angrily Thursday evening to the news that Barack Obama opposes attempts to add bankruptcy reform to the Wall Street bailout bill. A large b...
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Obama has a plan: President Obama and a Democratic Senate can easily pass bankruptcy reform, and probably have to. These foreclosures are simply toxic and the only way out is for bankruptcy judges to revise mortgage terms. Currently, they can do so only for a second mortgage, not a first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 09/26/2008
- HHarvey I'm a Fan of HHarvey 28 fans permalink
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That's true. They could pass bankruptcy reform without having to add it into some sort of bailout deal. Didn't think about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 09/26/2008

Individual Bankruptcy law should be returned to what it was prior to Bush. If you want to help the "average person," let them have the same opportunity to clean "clean the slate" as banks and corporations. Putting them on a payment plan with whoever now holds their paper or whoever now raised their credit card rates to userous levels is just plain wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 09/26/2008
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 97 fans permalink
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Every thinking, feeling human being knows this "bankruptcy reform" was a really bad idea and has to go. When? well, maybe not now.

This bill is 2 things mainly, it seems to me, either a way of procuring a megabank with our tax money (fooled again) or it is a trumped up crisis with several players willing to go along with Bush and "fail" spectacularly to prove what a "crisis" it is. (fooled again).

"Bankruptcy reform" needs to be a separate issue, but, I believe it has been and is a large part of this whole debacle and was planned to get people out of their homes and take everything they've got. Bush signed it at the height of the "Housing Bubble". It was designed to hurt as many normal people as possible. That tells me someone knew what was coming and it was a big part of the Neo Cons plan for the "Second Shock"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 09/26/2008
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 23 fans permalink
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He is right. We can't get greedy and end up stalling negotians. As long as the main themes are upheld we can work on other things at a later time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 09/26/2008
- suvbaby I'm a Fan of suvbaby 6 fans permalink

There are several key issues that Obama won't budge on in this bailout and most relate to Main Street and the protection thereof. The other key point was limiting executive booty. The repubs were in general agreement until McCain blew in and made his own proposal known to his party which called for less regulation and greater tax breaks for big Corps. This is what greases his palm. Isn't this essentually what got us to this place to begin with? The risk here is bickering over the small print to the point that main street will have no protection as the market slides on this development. Ira's will be lost, small business will tank because of credit not being available and the domino effect will be endless. I commend Obama for his humility and strength and thoughtfullness in this process, as apposed to the bully, grandstanding grining McCain who has been totally absent from the process until yesterday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 09/26/2008

i agree with barack....­..lets fix this mess without a load of tacked on legislation.
when he is in the white house we can address other problems
i believe we need to move cautiously
lets not be rushed into rash actions that may seem right today.....­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 09/26/2008

Col orado Gove rnor Bill Ritter has already put a freeze on hiring and cut back on Colora do's budget in case this bail out doesn't happen. He is preparing for a depression! This is scaring the crap out of our entire family and everyone I know. People may be angry that we've gotten to this point, but they need to realize we are here because of republican policies and move on. Let's fix it and move on with Obama. But if Chi na is no longer loaning America money, we are in for a world of hurt!

We used to be the nation that loaned the money! What has Ge orge done to us? He has destroyed a great sup er pow er and he should slink away in shame!!

1) 9/11 -- under his watch
2) Iraq war
3) Katrina
4) This mess!!!

What a leg acy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 09/26/2008

Colorado Governor Bill Ritter has already put a freeze on hiring and cut back on Colorado's budget in case this bail out doesn't happen. He is preparing for a depression! This is scaring the crap out of our entire family and everyone I know. People may be angry that we've gotten to this point, but they need to realize we are here because of republican policies and move on. Let's fix it and move on with Obama. But if China is no longer loaning America money, we are in for a world of hurt!

We used to be the nation that loaned the money! What has George done to us? He has destroyed a great super power and he should slink away in shame!!

1) 9/11 -- under his watch
2) Iraq war
3) Katrina
4) This mess!!!

What a legacy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 09/26/2008
- pgurlatl I'm a Fan of pgurlatl 11 fans permalink
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I think Obama is one of the most thoughtful and pragmatic guys out there.

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."
-JFK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 09/26/2008

If this proposal doesn't pass, the US will be in the worst depression it has ever faced. The 1930s will look like boom times. There's no other way to say it. Bush needs to come clean and tell Americans the truth. China has told the US that it will NOT loan any more money to the US. No more money means that the US is bankrupt. No cash to honor social security checks. No cash to buy bullets for our soldiers. McCain and the renegade Republicans are holding the American economy hostage for -- TAX CUTS. That's right. The pivotal point of the renegade plan is cuts in the capital gains tax! This should be an outrage to the American people. Obama needs to make sure Americans understand that if this proposal doesn't happen that the lines at the IndyMac bank failure will be a common occurrence. Obama needs to make sure Americans understand that without this bailout then factories will be shut down within weeks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 09/26/2008
- RnR I'm a Fan of RnR 25 fans permalink

"f this proposal doesn't pass, the US will be in the worst depression it has ever faced"

How do you know that? Even Bernanke and Paulson admitted they were not certain it would be successful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 09/26/2008
- RedneckDem I'm a Fan of RedneckDem 73 fans permalink
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ummm....Ch­ina, to date, has said no such thing. In fact, their entire economy at this time is based upon our consumption of their products. The money coming from them has slowed because our economy and consumption has slowed. They were eager to invest in mortgages because the side benefit was filling up the houses with Chinese made junk. To date, their only worry is if we tank before they are large enough to take care of themselves, and that day is coming...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 09/26/2008
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Amen to you, RnR. This claim that "the US will be in the worst depression it has ever faced" is being offered by the same clowns who stood by and watched as their Wall Street buddies made investments a drug addict wouldn't touch.

I can prove we are not risking a new Great Depression if we kill the bailout - because GW Bush says we are. Are you willing to bet $700 billion that for once he has actually got something right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 09/26/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 85 fans permalink

It's not at all clear that this "crisis" is anything of the kind.

It's not clear action is needed today - soon, perhaps, but January will likely do just fine.

The difference between a bailout today and a remedy in January is about 70 days or thereabouts. And, a remedy in 70 days or so will be FAR more thought out and will have a D congress and D president to fix things properly - instead of this R-dominated approach.

I don't subscribe to the theory that the whole world collapses in 70 days while we think our problems through.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 09/26/2008
- boing007 I'm a Fan of boing007 9 fans permalink

I don't subscribe to the theory that the whole world collapses in 70 days while we think our problems through..

Bush wants all of us to blink. Has Sarah Palin blinked yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 09/26/2008
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Here's another example of pragmatism at work- Obama doesn't want to weaken the possibility of getting a responsible bill that addresses the issue at hand, so he's opposed to adding all the crap to it. Looks like crisis politics is starting to inform what both sides are doing- Naomi Klein was right!
Bankruptcy definitely needs attention, the changes made by Bushco and the banks need to be rolled back- but let's do it in January when we have majorities and the Pres to make sure it gets done right!
Compromise and pragmatism are the watchwords of democracy, not ossified partisanship and media-scripted brinksmanship. Patience, get out the vote...we'­ll take back our country.
Obama is showing more and more that he is a true statesman in the traditional sense. McCain is another loose cannon smashing things in his path-

Obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 09/26/2008

We know one thing. Obama can and McCain Can't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 09/26/2008
- suvbaby I'm a Fan of suvbaby 6 fans permalink

Hopefully honesty and integrity will prevail here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 09/26/2008
- myangeldog1 I'm a Fan of myangeldog1 102 fans permalink
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I absolutely LOATHE this administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 09/26/2008
- Thomei I'm a Fan of Thomei 3 fans permalink

What people don't understand is that if you want to get anything passed in congress, like it or not, there have to be compromises made. I personally feel that instead of giving all that money from the top down that these CEOs and other mis-managers should have to work from the bottom up, fixing the damage that foreclosures have caused. Get those folks back into their homes, rewrite their mortgages and work hard to repair all those errors they made. Just throwing money at the top isn't going to do more than put a bandaid on the situation. Problem is most of those company elite have no idea what they did wrong. They were too busy living in the lap of luxury on their golden salaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 09/26/2008

I believe that they will help the homeowner, but it won't be something that will give the economy immediate results. Unfortunately, we need an immediate fix as well as longterm fixes. It's true, the bankruptcy laws need to be changed. But that will take some time, and it would take too long to get this bill passed. Bankruptcy needs to have its own bill. And the repubs will fight that one because it doesn't protect big business, it protects the average Joe. We've seen how much the repugs care about the average Joe. McCain would never allow that kind of reform to get past his office!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 09/26/2008
- AcitizenNJ I'm a Fan of AcitizenNJ 4 fans permalink

Thomei, I agree that at the core of this crisis is the bad mortgages. But, like many have implied that the upper management had no ideal what business they were conducting and involved in is the single one opinion that will allow these financial entities and the individuals from the top down to avoid accountability.

The amazing part of all of this is that these powerful government officials have stated over and over again (to the American citizens) that they have no clear ideal or understanding of how to fix this crisis but, $700 Billion is a great place to start. The fact that the bush admin sits down with paulson and puts together a proposal which has to be the biggest joke ( if you read it ) of all time. Did he not come on TV the other night and proclaim the doom of our country if he didn't get that $700 Billion dollars. You can argue that he was just stating the urgency of the matter but then you need to go back to that proposal.

Now, I'm voting Obama, but if what I've seen in the last several days is the best they can put forward to address this issue it should be very concerning to us all. The hold up to this crisis is not the crisis but all the bills both parties want passed in this legislation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 09/26/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 279 fans permalink
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Republicans will not let this pass .

McCain will bring down the whole worlds economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 09/26/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

Well, that might be the case, but at least the WORLD will know it is the ignorant and arrogant neocons that did it......

...that is an important point. The world will treat the USA worse than a damn dog with fleas, deservedly so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 09/26/2008

"let it ride" till election day"

piss off!

In my town there are 30,000 jobs hinging on this legislatio­n... people that WILL be fired in 2 weeks if this isn't handled... playing politics with peoples livelihoods anyone who supports that position should be hung.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 09/26/2008
- suvbaby I'm a Fan of suvbaby 6 fans permalink

When McCain got a slap on the wrist for his Keating Five involvement we enabled the whole process. This stinks of the same. How many billions did he cost us then?
You are right. Put the foundation and frame of this agreement together to save what we do have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 09/26/2008

Too many people have forgotten this, or never knew McCain's part in this scandal. I am SICKENED by the "polls" this morning. WTF is wrong with people???? Obama should be ahead by 15 points at least.....­this is starting to look like 2004 all over again. Where's the outrage?
Keating 5- get the word out!!!!!!!!!!!!! History is about to repeat itself unless we ELECT OBAMA and it must be a landslide. We've already seen how the "popular vote" is not enough!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 09/26/2008

What town are you in and what jobs are they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 09/26/2008

Is your town New York City? Well maybe those people shouldn't have prayed upon the poor. Imagine, for every corrupt crapper that gets fired, there's how many people that lost their homes? 100? 1,000? 10,000 newly homeless families?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 09/26/2008
- RnR I'm a Fan of RnR 25 fans permalink

"Well maybe those people shouldn't have prayed upon the poor..."

should be "preyed". Is English not your native language or are you just a dull study?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 09/26/2008

Not all of the people losing their jobs in New York City are praying on the poor. The financial sector are major contractors for IT jobs, cleaning companies, food services, administrative work and other fields. If wall street falls apart, our city could lose around 120,000 jobs. The politics of this thing sucks but it's a necessary evil. Now if they would take half of this bailout and give it to the taxpayers that would make alot more sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 09/26/2008

Not all of the people losing their jobs in New York City are preying on the poor. The financial sector are major contractors for IT jobs, cleaning companies, food services, administrative work and other fields. All in all my city could lose 120,000 jobs and this thing could snowball. Or do you believe new yorkers deserve to be homeless?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 09/26/2008
- Fraugher I'm a Fan of Fraugher 2 fans permalink

Bankruptcy reform is a big undertaking? Didn't seem so much- what was it- 5 years ago when Bush decided to saddle on-the-wire Americans with stricter personal bankruptcy law... before stripping those same folks completely raw. Why is it not appropriate to discuss Main Street bankruptcy while taking on potential Wall Street bankruptcy with nary an accountability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 09/26/2008
- OlskoolDem I'm a Fan of OlskoolDem 3 fans permalink

because it will bog down the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 09/26/2008
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