Brokaw To Clinton: Will You Praise Obama Like You Praise McCain?

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Some Democrats who are growing wary with what they see as Bill Clinton's tepid support for Barack Obama weren't likely relieved by the former president's appearance this Sunday on Meet the Press.

Clinton offered some praise for the man hoping to fill his former chair in the Oval Office, but much of it was admiration for Obama's political acumen and not his character. "I know he saw and imagined the way this thing could develop this political year and this economic situation, in a way that has left him in a position of leadership he is now," Clinton said.

At one point, host Tom Brokaw asked, "Would you use the same words for [Obama] that you have used for Senator McCain, that you admire him and that you think he's a great man?"

Clinton seemed caught off-guard and responded, "Well, I don't -- look, I had my first conversation with him in my entire life in Harlem," a reference to a lunch the two had in mid-September. Clinton followed by stating that he "certainly admire[s]" Obama, but that while the Illinois Democrat has "unlimited potential," he could only achieve greatness in time.

At one point in the interview, Clinton acknowledged that it was his wife, Hillary, who "told me to go help [Obama]." And while Bill Clinton criticized John McCain for representing a brand of politics that he disagreed with, he offered a far more adulatory take on the Arizona Republican's personality traits.

"Most people would have been broken by what he been through, or we would have been happy just to give him an atta boy and medal and let him wander through life," said Clinton. "I think his greatness is that he keeps trying to come back to service without ever asking people to cut him any slack or feel sorry for him or any of that stuff because he was a P.O.W."

Clinton's relationship with Obama has been a topic of much angst and conversation within Democratic circles. After a bitter-primary battle in which Obama defined the 1990s as a period of excessive partisanship (albeit economic growth) and Clinton's standing within African American communities stumbled, it was not surprising that the two figures would have issues with reconciliation. The former president's speech at the Democratic Convention in Denver seemed to remedy the frostiness. But this past week - as much media attention has been heaped on Clinton's Global Initiative - Clinton has, in some ways, reverted back to form: offering more tepid support for the Democratic ticket and showing a strong willingness to compliment McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin.

Indeed, somewhat remarkably, on Meet the Press, Clinton spoke up the Alaska Governor even as (or perhaps unaware of) conservatives themselves are beginning to abandon ship.

"Most of these people that are undecided they like John McCain and they kind of like her, what they know of her," he said. "And if they're going to move off of her or dislike her it is going to be because they think she is too conservative or too traditionally Republican or some issues that are very important to our future."

Some Democrats who are growing wary with what they see as Bill Clinton's tepid support for Barack Obama weren't likely relieved by the former president's appearance this Sunday on Meet the Press. Cl...
Some Democrats who are growing wary with what they see as Bill Clinton's tepid support for Barack Obama weren't likely relieved by the former president's appearance this Sunday on Meet the Press. Cl...
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President Clinton needs to remember how many of us stood by him and defended him when most walked away. He must also remember that it was because of his actions that Gore lost the election.
He owes the Democratic Party (you and me) much more than he could ever pay back. It's time to throw him overboard. He is becoming irrelevant and is now harming his wife's credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 09/29/2008
- mredder4 I'm a Fan of mredder4 30 fans permalink

Al Gore would have won if he had asked Clinton to campaign for him. He didn't, and he lost. Al Gore's loss is Al Gore's fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 09/29/2008
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After continuously praising the GOP, the dem party will place blame squarely on the clyntons if we lose this election. right or wrong...they will get the blame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 09/29/2008

Historically speaking, a single man's endorsement has never been the deciding factor of any presidential election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 09/29/2008
- ethel08 I'm a Fan of ethel08 3 fans permalink

You clearly have no memory of how incredibly unpopular Clinton was at that time. Gore ran a not fantastic campaign on many levels. But, even still, he did win the popular vote in 2000--and he did it without Clinton. Don't you remember that debacle? You act as if Bush actually beat Gore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 09/29/2008

Facts for the Clinton Worshipers and terminally stupid

1) CLINTONS DO NOT WANT OBAMA TO WIN
2) CLINTONS WANT OBAMA TO LOOSE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 09/29/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 60 fans permalink
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Bad candidates deserve to lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 09/29/2008
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you are correct....Hillary definately did deserve to lose the way her primary campaign was structured and run.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 09/29/2008
- reggieb I'm a Fan of reggieb 84 fans permalink

McKinney and Hillary = bad candidates

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 09/29/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

Bill & Hillary are members of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 09/29/2008
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The same one that George Sr. spoke about. If you did a dna test in the middle of the mess that this country now faces you will find Republican and Clinton dna mixed all together. They are terrified of having an honest person making it to the white house and doing CSI on the last 28 years since Reagan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 09/29/2008
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Bingo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 09/29/2008

I have to say the verdict is still out on the clintons support for Obama. I still think they can't get over being beaten by the new kid on the block. Even in the interview with Clinton he just seems uneasy when asked questions about Obama. Yes Obama has to lose in order for Hillary to have a clear shot at the whitehouse in 2012. If Obama wins, and I believe he will, he will run for a second term creating yet another hard battle for Clinton. I think there is an underground network out there within the Dem party working against Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 09/29/2008
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Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. We have ourselves a winner. There is definite criminalcollusionbetween many of the dems and the repubs. Lieberman comes to mind immediately. They are terrified todeath of having an honest person in office who will be in a position to reveal all their dirt. It is congress's job topolice this administration, not Obama's. To put all of this responsibility on his shoulders, I believe, puts him in danger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 09/29/2008
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They didn't get beat by the new kid. They got beat by the same corporate controlled media that led the charge of impeachment.

Newsflash folks: The media favors THE RIGHT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 09/29/2008
- bokiluis I'm a Fan of bokiluis 18 fans permalink

Learning to spell might help to make your points more effectively.

As of now, you belong in a remedial english course with palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 09/29/2008

Oh please. You clearly cannot be a true democrat -- most supporters are now behind the democratic ticket.

Leave the extra hype out of it. It is insulting to any voter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 09/29/2008
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Bill, Bill, Bill. Just keep showing your true colors. You inherited the dot.com era. You never balanced the budget in Arkansas. The first four or five months of your administration was about cleaning up your dirt and going to funerals. You passed things that the Republicans never could have passed on their own that have led to the economic crisis we now face. When are you going to face the music and go to tri al about thecase calledpaulvsclinton? Look it up, people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 09/29/2008
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Bill Clinton - go away, jealousy is not very Presidential. You are a sad excuse for a surogate, Obama deserves better than this. Your are a sad petty man, just like John McCain - of coarse, according to you that is a compliment........

Bill Clinton = Mr. irrelevent

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 09/29/2008
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 95 fans permalink

Americans have a right to expect better from a former President, on their dole for the rest of his life -- and, who has amassed almost ONE BILLION DOLLARS across the myriad of his interests, from still unvetted sources -- while his wife has been a sitting Senator for a short 7 years. American interests have been globalized, jobs and entire industries we pioneered outsourced and his "Clinton (Financial) Global Initiative" -- uber-lobbying firm - w/a Manhattan Office taxpayers cover for a former President -- is raking it in whenever the UN General Assembly is in Session in NYC.

Nice setup -- familia Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 09/29/2008
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I think it is to Obama's advantage that these to sit it out. It will show how little poer they have to broker in the Democratic Party. HITs is a new world order and it is a Obama NationNow have you done your bops today? 500 on McSame. Tell five friends!

www.boppoll.coml.com

Obama '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 09/29/2008
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Sorry about the typos.

I haven't had my morning coffee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 09/29/2008
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You are so right on. They are mafiosos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 09/29/2008
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47 pages of irrelevant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 09/29/2008

Guys, don't allow "AnotherTry" or others of its kind to distract you from the work we need to get done in the next month. Obama is the nominee of the party with the platform that best represents my interests. Period. Sour grapes about Hillary, the process, super delegates, and caucuses are just distractions designed to keep you arguing moot points rather than focusing on the task at hand. Forget about Bill and Hillary. We know what needs to be done on the ground. This is the home stretch, so let's ignore the naysayers and get to work...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 09/29/2008
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You can start by getting your candidate to support democratic values like equality and justice. Not wire-tapping and wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 09/29/2008
- reggieb I'm a Fan of reggieb 84 fans permalink

That soapbox makes your a$s look HUGE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 09/29/2008
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 95 fans permalink

I agree. Thank you. What else can Republicans do but sew seeds of discord and run up deficits, bail out their friendly bankers and outsource American ingenuity for mega-profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 09/29/2008
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So Obama is voting 'no' on the bail-out? Source please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 09/29/2008
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What you say is important. But I know that he/she is incapable of distracting us from what's important, and that the real work gets done in the real world, not here on HuffPo.

When I register new voters, especially young black and latinos, I'm not just helping Obama. I'm helping the entire democratic party for years to come.

When I teach young people that voting, advocacy and activism are essential, I'm helping those people to become active citizens who will help their communities and the larger world for years to come.

Many of them have already started registering other voters and developing an understanding of the importance of voting for local and state candidates too.

Your point is well taken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 09/29/2008
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I hope that is happening in the so called swing states. It is so frustrating that people in Ohio and Florida are always an issue. And the cheating and scamming from the Republicans in those states is so prevalent. If Republicans win, I think we need to get rid of the electoral process, and go with the popular vote. I am tired of my vote not seeming to count, since Al Gore had the election stolen from him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 09/29/2008

What I don't understand is why Billary is ignoring their most loyal supporters? It wasn't women or blue dog democrats it was African Americans!!
Everytime Billary ran into trouble whether it was Travelgate, Monica, Jessica Flowers, Paula Jones or the Vast Right Wing Conspriacy, Billary ran to the black church to plead their innocence.
Now, Billary is forgetting about their futures. If Obama doesn't win this election Blacks will put alot of blame on Billary.
Blacks have supported every democratic candidate and as soon as we have a African American candidate, the democratics have weak support.

If Hillary wants to have a political future she better pull her disbarded, impeached and adulterous husband back from the edge!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 09/29/2008
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Blacks aren't as delusional as you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 09/29/2008
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They miscalculated badly.

Bill thought he was beloved by african americans, I guess he was listening to irrelevant people like Bob Johnson and Andrew Young. He thought he could use subtle r.a.c.i.s.m to appeal to specific groups of white voters while getting a significant number of black votes.

He messed up in a huge way and his wife will pay the price.

Can you imagine the media circus we would be enduring if Hillary were the VP nominee? Obama made another good decision when he didn't choose her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 09/29/2008
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 95 fans permalink

It is time Hillary Clinton accept responsibility for HER CHOICES and not make them ours, in NYS. We don't have to accept Bill Clinton as he is. Her choice and her price...not ours. She has long since passed the time when she can claim a lack of complicity w/Bill's actions -- and, I believe, a facilitator. Having it both ways -- as both beneficiary and victim -- and leveraging gender as some kind of shield from accountability is something we women should repudiate.

We don't want a free pass from accountability or special privileges. We want equality. Hillary and Sarah have abused and exploited their gender, to the detriment of women in the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 09/29/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 60 fans permalink
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Maybe if Obama had won without the help of super delegates, we wouldn't care what Bill Clinton says or does not say.

Should have picked Hillary as VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 09/29/2008
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Uh, no. Clintons put Clintons first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 09/29/2008

And as Barack gets stronger in the polls, watch Bill come around. But it will be too late. The Obama campaign has been very careful in their embrace of the Clintons, and when Obama wins, we begin anew and the Clintin's, oh well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 09/29/2008
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Imagine the Clinton anvil around Obamas neck. No thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 09/29/2008
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Oh give me a break. We are so sick and tired of "he should have picked Hillary. He didn't and time has moved on. As far as McKinney, well that's it she is just a name on the ballot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 09/29/2008
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I've moved on alright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 09/29/2008
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After the airplane incident, I wouldn't trust them under a mountain of earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 09/29/2008

Clintons are toxic ! Why would you want hillarious as a VP - at a minimum you would need a food taster and a bulletproof suit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 09/29/2008
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 378 fans permalink
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Well said, and funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 09/29/2008

The ranking of the Democratic and national elder statesmen among those who are former presidents and vice presidents:

1. Jimmy Carter

2. Al Gore

I don't consider Bill Clinton as an elder statesman of the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 09/29/2008
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And we should care because...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 09/29/2008

You are correct clinton is not. He gave us G.W.Bush who have total destroyed the nation that was only hanging by a very thin thread for years.

He is only good for the Republican party, Bill help them get more votes than they deserve in anyone's life time because of all the greed and lust which also created mistrust from other countries being sold corrupt rating agencies junk sub-prime bonds rated as quality AA or AAA bonds..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 09/29/2008
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 95 fans permalink

I agree and I care. Dismissing and demeaning those we don't agree with -- with pithy comments --and other frat boy antics is what got us to this place. From top to bottom we have to redouble our efforts to get to mutually respectful discourse -- not just when Wall Street needs is generational bailout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 09/29/2008
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Respectful? Glad you care. But here's what I have to say to Bill Clinton: "Respect my arse." OK? Do you know what it means to be madder than heck and not wanting to take it any more? I guess not. Don't blame me for the troubles of this country. Why, you must respect Karl Rove too. Give me a break!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 09/29/2008
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On point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 09/29/2008
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Bill Clinton doesn't even get along with Jimmy Carter. It shows what a lameass he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 09/29/2008
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Since Bill worships at the altar of Bill Clinton and nobody else, he should be more concerned about his own legacy. By refusing to support the Democratic party now, he destroys what he built. By not supporting the AfroAmerican constituency which once admired him, he destroys his image not only here but also in Africa. If he honestly wants a comeback for Hillary, he must now support Obama, or he destroys her future, because she could never win without the support of AfroAmericans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 09/29/2008
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AfroAmerican? Are you being intentionally offensive or do you just not know any better?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 09/29/2008
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Afro is a hair style. One that hasn't been popular since the 70s. Although, after seeing Michelle Obama on the cover of the New Yorker, I think she could pull it off and look fabulous!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 09/29/2008
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Please, what is your problem? I am of African descent and have not problem with that description. Most people of my race don't, so why are you acting like you are the arbiter of this nitpicking labels without listening to the discussion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 09/29/2008

Agree 100%. We are watching the Clinton's self destruct.

Why so many former Clinton surrogates wanted to work for the Obama's campaign? That just doesn't make sense if they were good and decent couple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 09/29/2008
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Sour moose grapes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 09/29/2008
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And rightly so. Obama was chosen by media and democrat elites. Not real Americans.

If he wins, it is only because the opposition is ridiculously horrible. Not very inspiring.

How can the polls be so close when Obama is supposed to be so wonderful and McCain so bad? Oh I know. It's all Bill's fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 09/29/2008

I just wanted to say one thing about the process by which Sen Obama and Sen Clinton set out to be nominated, if Hillary had won the nomination it would have been decided by super delegates, the same as with Sen Obama. Sen. Obama was ahead in state delegate count which is the way in which the Democratic nominee is chosen. Everyone please get over this thing. Ok, the process is flawed but all parties played by the rules that were set out before the election cycle began. Also, what "real Americans" are you talking about? I voted when it was time for me to vote and yes I voted for Sen. Obama though I like both him and Hillary. I consider myself a real American. I'm sorry that there are so many folks in this country that have decided they are the only "real Americans" because they vote a certain way. We're all REAL AMERICANS no matter what team we root for!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 09/29/2008
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And Hillary's path to the nomination without SuperDelegate support was what exactly? She didn't win the popular vote, unless you discount caucus states and a state where her opponent wasn't even on the ballot.

Hillary's vote count = old school Soviet style

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 09/29/2008
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You are so out of touch. Obama has a grassroots campagin and WE his supports put him in the position he is in now. But we don't have to prove that because it is fact!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 09/29/2008

I am a veteran serving over 30 yrs service. What the H#LL you mean real Americans.
I do not like you or anyone who thinks like you putting on another DAM$ label out in the election atmosphere to be accepted as a valid in your face comment.

I do accept, uppity, arrogant, elite or liberal. All these labels during election from voting public got up into this mess with that kind of bully attitudes. This kind of mind set has gotten
American getting welfare from China since they now have 98% of American middle class manufacturing jobs because of all the name calling like "not real Americans" AnotherTry people enjoy doing and some weak mind-minded people not knowing how to stand up for themselves saying take it. How long did you put your life on the line for all Americans? I don't mean just in a military uniform, I talking about serving for the good of all people is real person. GOD created the world, not just one part of it.

I also over 20 United States General stand up and show the world in August at the Democrats convention what they believe who would make a great commander in Chief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 09/29/2008
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No, its called racism!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 09/29/2008
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For those who wish to let NBC news know how you feel about Tom Brokaw and his "moderation" of Meet the Press, here is the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6872152/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 09/29/2008
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Thank you..I sure did!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 09/29/2008

The man is a republican. Unless you are willing to boycott, and use the power of the purse, that email is useless. No one takes it serious.

Iran does not take American serious. In my opinion, the reason for that is because other countries have embassies located in Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 09/29/2008
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The fact is, Obama doesn't deserve to be where he is. He isn't a strong leader, he has no record of legislative accomplishments, his stances on everything from the Iraq war to capital punishment are not democratic positions and he wouldn't be where he is if it weren't for the support of super delegates(elites) and the corporate-controlled media.

He asked for the Clintons to campaign for him. I hope he is regretting that decision.

McKinney '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 09/29/2008
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Speaking of superdelegates deciding the nomination, when is Donna Brazile going to resign as promised? I guess you can't believe anything she says...like we didn't know that already. LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 09/29/2008
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Donna Brazile is a terrific superdelegate and a wonderful person. What does that say about you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 09/29/2008

anothertry missed the real fact, Mckinney was in congress and her character as a professional had reach a level that her own State voter refused stay the same and they voted for a change.

McKinney is running to use taxpayer money for her 2008 income, pay her bills and truly know she has no chance to become president or commander in chief.

I saw 20 general stand on the democrats convention platform and endorse Senator Obama. If Obama was not worthy, I am sure these men would not waste their time. They would have to lose in their future as wells as destroy their own creditability for the endorsement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 09/29/2008
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You try and win an election when republicans are dumping millions into your little district to get your opponent elected.

She lost because she dared to question the republican leadership and they set out to destroy her.

I'm sure the republicans appreciate your support in this matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 09/29/2008
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The voters say otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 09/29/2008
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No, the super delegated say otherwise. If this were actually left up to voters, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. No one would care whether or not a junior senator strongly supported Senator Clinton. It would be a moot point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 09/29/2008

Like cheese and crackers with your whine???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 09/29/2008
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Sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 09/29/2008
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I'm sorry to see Bill is such a sore loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 09/29/2008

Bill Clinton is not a sore loser, the true label for him should be attached to his ego.

Bill Clinton during the primaries had to show tax statements file.
There are TWO charities in the Clinton's name which they are able to get a tax deduction or credit for.

How often do you know the average American can set up a charity in their own name, donate your money to it, and at tax time when you itemize your taxes take a tax credit for paying yourself.

I would love to do that, but I would not last 24 hours after the forms hit the IRS on tax day. I would be in jail. Again, Bill didn't stop at one charity in his name, he has TWO maybe working on a third he will want a tax credit for next April 15th.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 09/29/2008

I think I understand enough to say that Bill Clinton is running Hillary 2012 now, and that they are behind the tepid support Governor Ed Rendell is giving him in Pennsylvania.

He keeps saying Hillary has done more than any other ex candidate etc... So should we balance out what she is doing with what he is? Clearly, while she is out doing her job for Obama he has been given the attack dog job, and is out to bolster McCain's chances.

It is a shameful example of more of the same egocentered mania we saw from him early on.

That boat has sailed Bill! If McCain is elected, your wife will not beat him in 2012, and heaven only knows what the country would like like in 8 years, by the time Sarah Palin would run for President.

Get your head on straight Bill!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 09/29/2008

Bill Clinton's ego is destroying his living history. He is using Obama to distract from his policies when in office of the remover of Glass-Stegell . I don't hear him talk about the down side of McCain side kick former senator Phil Gramm's GLB act.

Hilllary 's support for McCain in the shadows will destroy her future also. Most people in New York knows about the voting machines problems for Obama to zero vote in NYC.

Don't hear about the Clinton's have a law suite pending in Los Angeles after the elections, which was postponed in March 2008 because they thought they would win the primaries.

Baby boomers have a problem not realizing the internet with youtube, myspace and people starting their own google or blog sites are the true game changers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 09/29/2008
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Hey! Watch it! I am actually not a baby boomer, being born in 1942, so I am even older. I have been blogging here since 2006. Youtube et al are most familiar to me. I am an Obama supporter and am just plain tired of the Clintons and their narcissism. Do not judge people as a group because of age. My kids who are in their thirties and forties look to me for political info. They know better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 09/29/2008

Baby boomers invented the internet and are quite aware of how it works and how it is used.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 09/29/2008
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Contrary to popular belief, Obama adn the vast majority of his team are boomers. He was born in 1961, the last boomers were born in either '64 or '65.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 09/29/2008
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Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton need to either get with the program or back off totally. Given their sleepwalking through recent appearances, if I were Obama, and I win in November, I would bury Billary.

He should be remembered as a disgrace to the office he held, an adulterer, liar, and a major reason we lost in 2000 and 2004. She should be remembered as a poor loser who stayed in the primary even though she could not win, and did damage to the party.

Either step up, or sit the ____ down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 AM on 09/29/2008
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They should both be remembered for dividing democrats along racial and gender lines. The stress of her losing campaign caused their masks to slip and we caught a glimpse of their real faces, not a pretty picture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 09/29/2008
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On the contrary, I think many outside of the most ardent O supporters, blame O for the divide in the Party. At first I was upset with what he's done to the Party but after reflection, I think it is probably a good thing. It's time for some new, relevant parties to emerge in this country. Hopefully, O's division of the Democratic Party will hasten that.

As for Bill, as Jon Stewart point out, if Bill could throw his hat in the ring he would beat both of these candidates by 20%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 09/29/2008

I do not agree to your idea Obama should bury anyone. He has to work with all the people when elected.

However, I do agree with the other major point. How the grand puma and her motley crew would think the Clinton's conduct when in office as president and commander in chief had put Americans in a shameful light, they ran to the republican party which got us bush with 2 wars and more lives lost and injured then the original attack in new york city in 2001.

Obama is being talked about lack of experience in American, yet, the people in Europe has the intelligence to know Obama has the ability to do well in a global environment has it is today. Americans gave away their super power status years ago when Nixon and Kissinger sold the soul of this nation to china a who are c o m m u n i s t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 09/29/2008
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